Comments on: Superman Returns returns - UPDATES http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:21:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Richard http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-24410 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:50:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-24410 I think I need to watch the DVD again, but did Lois have sex with Superman or Clark Kent? I think I need to watch the DVD again, but did Lois have sex with Superman or Clark Kent?

]]> by: EarvinMontgomery http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-3010 Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:05:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-3010 All you people who ant superman fans should not really say nothing about superman study up and play all his games before you say anything about and superman will hurt anybody who stops him from keeping us safe. I am 13 and I love the heck out of superman and thats that. And that green rock can kill him slowly dumb specktacters. All you people who ant superman fans should not really say nothing about
superman study up and play all his games before you say anything about and superman will hurt anybody who stops him from keeping us safe.
I am 13 and I love the heck out of superman and thats that. And that green rock can kill him slowly dumb specktacters.

]]> by: Jody http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-112 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:32:29 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-112 See here's the thing. Clark had sex with Lois when he was powerless in II. This being the only way her "fallopian tubes could handle the sperm" (see Mallrats discussion on how Lois could never have Superman's baby). I'm not sure how a powerless dude can pass on a powered gene but whatever. T the end of the film (II) Lois is made to forget who Superman is and that she has just had sex with him. In Returns when it becomes apparent that Lois is Superman Jr.'s mother, the logical question for her to ask is, "Uhhhh... when did we have sex?" And how can a human carry Superman's child if "When Lois gets a tan the kid could kick right through her stomach." (see same Mallrats discussion). Total nit-picks but fun to talk about. I thought the film was beautiful and found it's imagery to be surprisingly emotially affecting even with plot holes and there are a few. See here’s the thing. Clark had sex with Lois when he was powerless in II. This being the only way her “fallopian tubes could handle the sperm” (see Mallrats discussion on how Lois could never have Superman’s baby). I’m not sure how a powerless dude can pass on a powered gene but whatever. T the end of the film (II) Lois is made to forget who Superman is and that she has just had sex with him. In Returns when it becomes apparent that Lois is Superman Jr.’s mother, the logical question for her to ask is, “Uhhhh… when did we have sex?” And how can a human carry Superman’s child if “When Lois gets a tan the kid could kick right through her stomach.” (see same Mallrats discussion). Total nit-picks but fun to talk about. I thought the film was beautiful and found it’s imagery to be surprisingly emotially affecting even with plot holes and there are a few.

]]> by: Jody http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-111 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:18:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-111 Erik is right fucking on. My biggest problem of the film. Erik is right fucking on. My biggest problem of the film.

]]> by: Erik http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-105 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:53:59 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-105 Didn't Lois have her memory wiped at the end of Superman II? Shouldn't she be wondering how she could even have Superman's baby? Or did they sleep together again after that? Didn’t Lois have her memory wiped at the end of Superman II? Shouldn’t she be wondering how she could even have Superman’s baby? Or did they sleep together again after that?

]]> by: Matt http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-95 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:50:17 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-95 i think peter david had my favorite objection to the film--that upon confronted with the deadbeat dad of her young son, who now apparently has SUPER powers, as the film closes, lois seems content to simply purr in awe, "will we see you?" no "how about some child support, asshole?" or "if you think you're taking him to kandor next weekend, you've got another thing coming." just "homina homina homina bye." lois lane: the most aggressive reporter on the planet, yet desperate and spineless in love. i think peter david had my favorite objection to the film–that upon confronted with the deadbeat dad of her young son, who now apparently has SUPER powers, as the film closes, lois seems content to simply purr in awe, “will we see you?”

no “how about some child support, asshole?” or “if you think you’re taking him to kandor next weekend, you’ve got another thing coming.” just “homina homina homina bye.”

lois lane: the most aggressive reporter on the planet, yet desperate and spineless in love.

]]> by: Andrew Wickliffe http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-93 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:38:31 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-93 By that rational (worrying about aeronautical mistakes and the lack of concern for invading armies), you mustn't like many good movies. or decent ones. ... and I do continue to find the Superman Returns-bashing among comics' fans amusing. If it does bomb, if everyone does hate it... it's the last Warner Bros. superhero movie for 15 years, except Batman... which is exactly what happened when Superman IV bombed. Oh, except Swamp Thing. There might be another swamp thing to look forward to... except Louis Jordan is dead, isn't he? By that rational (worrying about aeronautical mistakes and the lack of concern for invading armies), you mustn’t like many good movies.

or decent ones.

… and I do continue to find the Superman Returns-bashing among comics’ fans amusing. If it does bomb, if everyone does hate it… it’s the last Warner Bros. superhero movie for 15 years, except Batman… which is exactly what happened when Superman IV bombed.

Oh, except Swamp Thing. There might be another swamp thing to look forward to… except Louis Jordan is dead, isn’t he?

]]> by: Jon Adams http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-85 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:16:13 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-85 All I'm saying is Superman sucked, comparing it to what constitutes a good movie. Or, actually, a decent movie. All I’m saying is Superman sucked, comparing it to what constitutes a good movie. Or, actually, a decent movie.

]]> by: Andrew Wickliffe http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-65 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 07:10:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-65 Just curious... are the people assailing the logic of Superman Returns defending the logic of other superhero movies (Spider-Man, Batman, X-Man)... or even the originals? Or even the comic books? Just curious… are the people assailing the logic of Superman Returns defending the logic of other superhero movies (Spider-Man, Batman, X-Man)… or even the originals?

Or even the comic books?

]]> by: Jon Aams http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-62 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:22:53 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-62 Or the fact that if an army came to claim the land, Lex would be utterly defenseless against them. Or the fact that if an army came to claim the land, Lex would be utterly defenseless against them.

]]> by: steven http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-49 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:35:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-49 no one has said anything about Lex Luthors real estate scheme to make land that is inhabitable to everyone else no one has said anything about Lex Luthors real estate scheme to make land that is inhabitable to everyone else

]]> by: Darren J. Gendron http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-46 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:00:49 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-46 Actually, that whole lifting of the entire boat over opening the door was something I liked a lot about the movie. I was cringing at the bad science possibility of him opening the door - the pressure change combined with the sheer force of the water would have smashed the three puny humans dead. Instead, he moved the boat to an equal pressure zone, then opened the door. Now, lifting them a whole 'nother 500 yards out into the air, that was just showing off. But then again, the guy that's been tagging his girl was there, and he needed to establish himself in front of the other male. Actually, that whole lifting of the entire boat over opening the door was something I liked a lot about the movie. I was cringing at the bad science possibility of him opening the door - the pressure change combined with the sheer force of the water would have smashed the three puny humans dead. Instead, he moved the boat to an equal pressure zone, then opened the door.
Now, lifting them a whole ‘nother 500 yards out into the air, that was just showing off. But then again, the guy that’s been tagging his girl was there, and he needed to establish himself in front of the other male.

]]> by: Rob Salkowitz http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-44 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:19:20 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-44 OK, thanks for confirming my (and my wife's) first impressions. When you have a Superman movie whose standards of plot consistency would make Mort Weisinger cringe, you've got some problems. OK, thanks for confirming my (and my wife’s) first impressions. When you have a Superman movie whose standards of plot consistency would make Mort Weisinger cringe, you’ve got some problems.

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-36 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:03:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-36 Hm, Julio, thanks for the insight. Personally, I think giving a kindergartner a grade in ANYTHING is a bit harsh but...whaddaya know, these kids gotta learn how to get ahead in the world. Hm, Julio, thanks for the insight. Personally, I think giving a kindergartner a grade in ANYTHING is a bit harsh but…whaddaya know, these kids gotta learn how to get ahead in the world.

]]> by: Julio Diaz http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-34 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:48:12 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-34 But enough about Superman: any story that involves oil, underwear and Rosario Dawson sounds like a story I want to hear! But enough about Superman: any story that involves oil, underwear and Rosario Dawson sounds like a story I want to hear!

]]> by: Julio Diaz http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-33 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:46:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-33 Oh, and as the parent of a kid who just got out of kindergarten: yes, she got a grade in gym. I don't remember a science grade (and I don't have her report card in front of me), but she did get grades in English (reading and writing skills), basic math, civics, art, music and yes, gym. They teach a lot more in kindergarten these days than they used to - my daughter's learned stuff that I don't remember covering until first and second grade, and I'm not even two decades out of high school. Oh, and as the parent of a kid who just got out of kindergarten: yes, she got a grade in gym. I don’t remember a science grade (and I don’t have her report card in front of me), but she did get grades in English (reading and writing skills), basic math, civics, art, music and yes, gym. They teach a lot more in kindergarten these days than they used to - my daughter’s learned stuff that I don’t remember covering until first and second grade, and I’m not even two decades out of high school.

]]> by: Shane http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-30 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:41:42 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-30 Technically the first event would have caused the Tidal Waves and Tsunamis too. I already suspended my belief enough to believe a man can fly so I can suspend it just a bit more to look over all that other stuff. Technically the first event would have caused the Tidal Waves and Tsunamis too. I already suspended my belief enough to believe a man can fly so I can suspend it just a bit more to look over all that other stuff.

]]> by: Julio Diaz http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-29 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:41:16 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-29 Speaking as someone who actually works in a newsroom, I didn't have a problem with the kid running around. There are kids in and out of here all the time. My own daughter's been in the office for hours at a time in the past. As long as they're not here every single day and they aren't causing a distraction, it's usually OK. Same at the paper I worked at before this one. Plus: A) if you have a reporter who's just won the Pulitzer, you're going to go out of your way to keep her happy - ven if that means letting her kid hang out in the newsroom - 'cause every paper in the country would kill to have her; and B) when the kid's "father" is both a managing editor at the paper and the nephew of the very powerful editor-in-chief, a lot of leeway is going to be given. We only see the kid there on two occasions, and he's only there for an extended amount of time on one of those, when both his parents are there working. Something like that is not unusual. Not encouraged, mind you, but it happens. But then, there's no reason to believe that Lois and Richard were "encouraged" to bring in their kid, either. "Allowed," perhaps, but you never see Perry telling everyone to bring the kiddies. Speaking as someone who actually works in a newsroom, I didn’t have a problem with the kid running around. There are kids in and out of here all the time. My own daughter’s been in the office for hours at a time in the past. As long as they’re not here every single day and they aren’t causing a distraction, it’s usually OK. Same at the paper I worked at before this one.

Plus: A) if you have a reporter who’s just won the Pulitzer, you’re going to go out of your way to keep her happy - ven if that means letting her kid hang out in the newsroom - ’cause every paper in the country would kill to have her; and B) when the kid’s “father” is both a managing editor at the paper and the nephew of the very powerful editor-in-chief, a lot of leeway is going to be given.

We only see the kid there on two occasions, and he’s only there for an extended amount of time on one of those, when both his parents are there working. Something like that is not unusual. Not encouraged, mind you, but it happens.

But then, there’s no reason to believe that Lois and Richard were “encouraged” to bring in their kid, either. “Allowed,” perhaps, but you never see Perry telling everyone to bring the kiddies.

]]> by: Jon http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-22 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:51:52 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2006/06/30/superman-returns-returns-updates/#comment-22 Also, people flying on a plane, soley to learn about the plane's capability to carry the space shuttle, will store luggage in the overhead compartments. And Superman is now a deadbeat dad who will "be around" every other weekend. Also, people flying on a plane, soley to learn about the plane’s capability to carry the space shuttle, will store luggage in the overhead compartments.

And Superman is now a deadbeat dad who will “be around” every other weekend.

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