In case no one has figured this out yet, I’m a contexualist and a relativist.

Thats kinda weird.

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Guess what? TOD is SUPPOSED to be offensive and horrific and exploitative! That’s what made those stories so great.

But it damn sure shouldn’t be censored - especially in an archive book series marketed as “Essential.”

It’s wrong and stupid and ultimately wasteful of the brand.

And no one, me included, said my posting all those 300 pictures was “mature”.

BTW, the next person who suggests to me that men and women are objectified in the same way in our society is going to get an ass whuppin’. Both are objectified, but in vastly different proportions and ways.

While, say, i would get upset if Hermione flashed her knockers in a eventual “Harry Potter” comic book, it’s only right that in a dracula pulp comics there is blood and tits. If you don’t like it , don’t buy it. In the Renaissance the was a guy named “il mutandaro”, who’s job was to paint underwear on angels and other characters on the sistine chapel, because it offended the “civil” sensibilities. Nice to see that things don’t change.

I am appalled by the straight-edge feminism where no matter what female nudity in the media is wrong. Because,well, it’s not. Why don’t we give more clothes to the “300″ actors, eh?

Matteo

I’m further arguing that even obviously prurient uses of nudity shouldn’t be seen as morally suspect or the product of a feeble mind, and that adults like nudity as much as teenagers — men obviously more so than women, given the way their sexuality is easily triggered by visual stimuli, but I would imagine that many women wouldn’t exactly object to more displays of appealing male nudity.

Beautiful naked people are an inherently good thing. This isn’t exactly an original thought, here. Why do I even have to say this?

It depends on your frame of mind and how old you are. If you were a male teen ager when these came out and you were able to see/read these books without pointing and giggling at the naked women, then you might *feel* more mature than you did when reading Hulk comics the week before.

But if a male reader sees the book and thinks “HOLY SHIT THESE GOT TITS IN THEM!” and make a big deal out of it to people, then no, reading the books doesn’t make you more mature.

Which reader TOD was aimed at is only somewhat relevant. I’m sure Marvel wanted all the readers they could get and probably didn’t care which group, just as long as it didn’t get them in trouble. But that the boobies & naked women scenes weren’t drawn in a centerfold like fashion, indicates the creative team (including the editor) were leaning more towards the mature camp. Maybe they didn’t want to get in trouble and/or they knew they’d get “TITS!” group anyway, just by virtue of showing them when other comics did not.

But yeah, somebody at Marvel is conservative when it comes to nudity and wants the boobies covered up. I don’t agree, especially in reprints.

and it’s “great” that, while the girls boobs have been covered, nothing’s been done about her body being put through a grinder [or whatever that was] and all the other scenes with blood.

that’s what impressed me more upon reading this kind of Horror story as a kid: the gore, not the boobs, which were kind of a relief to the tension and tipically “Satanist” imagery of the 70’s. in sexually-repressed cultures, representations of violence is always so much more tolerated than representations of sex…

censoring those shots make them look all the more mature in today’s light, no matter how contradictory that may sound. what good does a dogmatic rulebook things like killing a Kurd couple for a 6 minute sex video recorded on a cellphone? it makes their “crime” all the more special, not to say rebellious.

and us all the more nostalgic for a time when all those cool things were OK, which sucks. there’s no point in republishing those comics if not in the original way they were conceived. I could have taken digital coloring, but thisis just plain stupid.

Make that “typical adult gay male.” I suspect the typical adult male probably doesn’t care about the beefcake.