Comments on: Finding a safe place for THE BOYS http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:45:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Glenn Hauman http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48782 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:30:47 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48782 A few notes on methodology: The issue numbers are not reprints of the same issues, at least not in the case of FALLEN ANGEL. There was also an artist change when FALLEN ANGEL went to IDW. And most importantly, there was a price change as well. A few notes on methodology:

The issue numbers are not reprints of the same issues, at least not in the case of FALLEN ANGEL.

There was also an artist change when FALLEN ANGEL went to IDW. And most importantly, there was a price change as well.

]]> by: Jason Caskey http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48519 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:32:08 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48519 I wonder if the market would notice if every regular DC/Marvel reader would give up one title from their pull list and try something new from the "Comics" section of Previews. I wonder if the market would notice if every regular DC/Marvel reader would give up one title from their pull list and try something new from the “Comics” section of Previews.

]]> by: Darren J. Gendron http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48318 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:06:42 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48318 Wanted is probably not the best example, as Image shares the discount levels of DC and Marvel (Dark Horse is the fourth pillar of partnership). Wanted is probably not the best example, as Image shares the discount levels of DC and Marvel (Dark Horse is the fourth pillar of partnership).

]]> by: markus http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48235 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:48:35 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48235 While I fully agree with regard to the dopes, in their defense they might say that the editing is more professional at DC/Marvel and if pressed point to e.g. Warren Ellis as living proof that even the top creators need good editing or else it shows in their work. Not that people who stop buying because it isn't coming from M-DC would notice something as subtle as better editing. While I fully agree with regard to the dopes, in their defense they might say that the editing is more professional at DC/Marvel and if pressed point to e.g. Warren Ellis as living proof that even the top creators need good editing or else it shows in their work. Not that people who stop buying because it isn’t coming from M-DC would notice something as subtle as better editing.

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48220 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:27:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48220 Apples and oranges. Powers and Fallen Angel. I argue that Bendis was certainly more famous and popular in 2005 than 2001. Also, the market was in much better shape in 2005 than 2001. In the case of Fallen Angel, it now costs $3.99 versus $2.99 when published by DC. At $3.99 per issue, many people decided to wait for the trade. Trades usually sell for less than the sum of the individual issues. (Not so with Fallen Angel.) Apples and oranges. Powers and Fallen Angel.

I argue that Bendis was certainly more famous and popular in 2005 than 2001. Also, the market was in much better shape in 2005 than 2001.

In the case of Fallen Angel, it now costs $3.99 versus $2.99 when published by DC. At $3.99 per issue, many people decided to wait for the trade. Trades usually sell for less than the sum of the individual issues. (Not so with Fallen Angel.)

]]> by: Tyree http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48152 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:43:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-48152 "Would the boys reach as many LCS’ if it hav been published by any indie publisher? No way!" Ever hear of Wanted? “Would the boys reach as many LCS’ if it hav been published by any indie publisher? No way!”

Ever hear of Wanted?

]]> by: Vichus Smith http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47962 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:35:12 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47962 Is it brand recognition, or is it the fact that Marvel and DC have more sway than any other comics publisher? Would the boys reach as many LCS' if it hav been published by any indie publisher? No way! I think that it's good, still that DC dropped the book. It got the book some attention and now it's going to find a place where it belongs. Is it brand recognition, or is it the fact that Marvel and DC have more sway than any other comics publisher? Would the boys reach as many LCS’ if it hav been published by any indie publisher? No way!

I think that it’s good, still that DC dropped the book. It got the book some attention and now it’s going to find a place where it belongs.

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47945 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:04:22 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47945 That not to say the The Boys is Nazi propaganda. It's just a little more then bad taste. But if it finds another publisher, more power to them. It is still a free country (no matter what they tell you) and I support peoples right to write and draw whatever they want, no matter how wrong to do so it may be. Is it wrong? Who am I to say? I just feel that Preacher was bad. Do you think Karen Burger would have put up with a vertigo book called Rabbi of Death, or something like that? That not to say the The Boys is Nazi propaganda. It’s just a little more then bad taste. But if it finds another publisher, more power to them. It is still a free country (no matter what they tell you) and I support peoples right to write and draw whatever they want, no matter how wrong to do so it may be. Is it wrong? Who am I to say? I just feel that Preacher was bad. Do you think Karen Burger would have put up with a vertigo book called Rabbi of Death, or something like that?

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47939 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:56:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47939 Hey, you know if DC didn't want to sell Nazi propaganda, even though sales were up, I couldn't blame them. Hey, you know if DC didn’t want to sell Nazi propaganda, even though sales were up, I couldn’t blame them.

]]> by: Tyree http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47832 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:24:11 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47832 The funny thing about Powers is it now sales less at Marvel then it did at Image. The funny thing about Powers is it now sales less at Marvel then it did at Image.

]]> by: Jeff Flowers http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47810 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:50:45 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47810 This is one of the reasons why I no longer buy corporate owned titles. With "The Boys" being creator owned, there is at least a chance for more issues in the future. Had "The Boys" been a DC owned property, there would have been no chance at all. This is one of the reasons why I no longer buy corporate owned titles. With “The Boys” being creator owned, there is at least a chance for more issues in the future. Had “The Boys” been a DC owned property, there would have been no chance at all.

]]> by: Jason http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47757 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:39:15 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47757 I think a lot of this can be blamed on the retailers that only order Marvel & DC. Whether they do that out of laziness/ignorance or economics is up for grabs. I rarely realize how lucky I am to have an LCS (in the far south-Chicago-suburbs) that pretty much carries everything and supports small press. The one thing is, I just don't think that The Boys would have a long shelf-life other than coming from Ennis/Robertson, it seemed to be a one-trick pony after three issues to me. It was far from Preacher quality. I'll pick up the trade whenever it comes out to get a better idea. I think a lot of this can be blamed on the retailers that only order Marvel & DC. Whether they do that out of laziness/ignorance or economics is up for grabs. I rarely realize how lucky I am to have an LCS (in the far south-Chicago-suburbs) that pretty much carries everything and supports small press. The one thing is, I just don’t think that The Boys would have a long shelf-life other than coming from Ennis/Robertson, it seemed to be a one-trick pony after three issues to me. It was far from Preacher quality. I’ll pick up the trade whenever it comes out to get a better idea.

]]> by: Rich Johnston http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47755 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:36:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47755 Books from Marvel and DC are sold at lower percentages of retail to retailers, so a retailer will make more money per $ of sales of a Marvel/DC book than they will of, say, an Avatar book. So it makes more sense for retailers to promote Marvel/DC titles, since they will see more profits. That can be relected in sales. Books from Marvel and DC are sold at lower percentages of retail to retailers, so a retailer will make more money per $ of sales of a Marvel/DC book than they will of, say, an Avatar book. So it makes more sense for retailers to promote Marvel/DC titles, since they will see more profits. That can be relected in sales.

]]> by: Tom Muller http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47748 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:21:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47748 I have to sadly say that, as a consumer, I sometimes visit comic shops that almost exclusively carry Marvel and DC, with (if you're lucky) a trinkle Dark Horse and Image; and don't bother with the rest. In that scenario I can see those shops dropping The Boys regardless of Ennis and Roberston if it ends up sollicited in the "Comics" section in Previews. I have to sadly say that, as a consumer, I sometimes visit comic shops that almost exclusively carry Marvel and DC, with (if you’re lucky) a trinkle Dark Horse and Image; and don’t bother with the rest.
In that scenario I can see those shops dropping The Boys regardless of Ennis and Roberston if it ends up sollicited in the “Comics” section in Previews.

]]> by: Larry Young http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47731 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:58:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/01/31/the-boys-will-sell/#comment-47731 Sales going up isn't an almost unheard-of miracle; just indicative of a good book finding its audience. The sales patterns of DEMO and THE WALKING DEAD spring immediately to mind... :) Sales going up isn’t an almost unheard-of miracle; just indicative of a good book finding its audience. The sales patterns of DEMO and THE WALKING DEAD spring immediately to mind… :)

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