Comments on: The LOST Experience http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:50:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: emilce http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-1791152 Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:31:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-1791152 soy de argentina, sawyer no podes estar tan bueno soy de argentina, sawyer no podes estar tan bueno

]]> by: Scott Hinze http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-103427 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:23:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-103427 Great analysis, except for the one major note- Fans are bad? Sure, fans are vocal, passionate and demanding- but bad? Is there nothing to be said for the equity built up for watching, supporting, interacting and promoting this show? Yeah, comics is by-far on the extreme end of this scale, but one of the reasons LOST is so great is that the writers don't lock themselves away in some isolated hatch. They hear their fans reactions and theories so they can deliver a greater suprize. Maybe people stopped watching in Season 3 because they STOPPED listening to fans like they did in Season 2. Don't worry Heidi, you'll become jaded and frustrated with us live watchers soon enough. You better hope the LOST writers don't follow your advice or else... they won't... listen to your advice anymore. :?: Great analysis, except for the one major note-

Fans are bad? Sure, fans are vocal, passionate and demanding- but bad? Is there nothing to be said for the equity built up for watching, supporting, interacting and promoting this show? Yeah, comics is by-far on the extreme end of this scale, but one of the reasons LOST is so great is that the writers don’t lock themselves away in some isolated hatch. They hear their fans reactions and theories so they can deliver a greater suprize. Maybe people stopped watching in Season 3 because they STOPPED listening to fans like they did in Season 2. Don’t worry Heidi, you’ll become jaded and frustrated with us live watchers soon enough.

You better hope the LOST writers don’t follow your advice or else… they won’t… listen to your advice anymore. :? :

]]> by: Michael Climek http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-102975 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:50:17 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-102975 I"m a little late on this, but i note that i agree with most everything you say. I will add one comment becuase this site is the only place where someone will understand. During season 1 Locke reminded me alot of J'onn J'onzz. It was partly cause of the baldness, but that weird mysteriously helpful all knowing aura he had about him sort of strenghned it. I”m a little late on this, but i note that i agree with most everything you say.

I will add one comment becuase this site is the only place where someone will understand.

During season 1 Locke reminded me alot of J’onn J’onzz.

It was partly cause of the baldness, but that weird mysteriously helpful all knowing aura he had about him sort of strenghned it.

]]> by: Jonathan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-102366 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:35:46 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-102366 I sure wish Killing Zoe hadn't ruined The Prisoner for me years before I even got a chance to see an episode. Shame. I sure wish Killing Zoe hadn’t ruined The Prisoner for me years before I even got a chance to see an episode. Shame.

]]> by: Cary_Coatney http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-101881 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:35:46 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-101881 Bai Ling was in the movie Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. My sister and I tune in just to hear what nickname Sawyer can come up with next for his fellow plane crash survivors. They had an episode where they all had a bet with Sawyer to see if he could stop doing it for a week. Oh Heidi - there were 17 episodes of the Prisoner - not 16. ~ Coat Bai Ling was in the movie Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.

My sister and I tune in just to hear what nickname Sawyer can come up with next for his fellow plane crash survivors.

They had an episode where they all had a bet with Sawyer to see if he could stop doing it for a week.

Oh Heidi - there were 17 episodes of the Prisoner - not 16.
~

Coat

]]> by: Bon http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-99207 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:34:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-99207 By day, I edit comics. By night I lead a second life writing about Lost. Cheap plugs for some major posts of mine on The Fuselage: *Relating the show to The Watchmen: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=38267 *Using the phrase, "Live Together, Die Alone" as a lens through which to examine the show: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=70094 And here's my episode recaps: http://spirespike.livejournal.com/tag/lost+my+mind I agree with all your points Heidi, except for the need for the characters to talk to each other more. While it may make for less frustrating TV, I think it's unrealistic to expect them to trust each other enough to share everything with each other. We want them to do it only because we already know so much. This Wednesday's is supposed to be quite a special event... By day, I edit comics. By night I lead a second life writing about Lost.

Cheap plugs for some major posts of mine on The Fuselage:

*Relating the show to The Watchmen: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=38267

*Using the phrase, “Live Together, Die Alone” as a lens through which to examine the show: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=70094

And here’s my episode recaps: http://spirespike.livejournal.com/tag/lost+my+mind

I agree with all your points Heidi, except for the need for the characters to talk to each other more. While it may make for less frustrating TV, I think it’s unrealistic to expect them to trust each other enough to share everything with each other. We want them to do it only because we already know so much.

This Wednesday’s is supposed to be quite a special event…

]]> by: Miran http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-99189 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 20:05:23 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-99189 Steve B: I know that they filmed the last episode a year after the previous episodes had finished production, but I don't believe they did do a show that explained everything. It remains an unsolved puzzle. By the way, could some one clue me up on the hate-on for Bai Ling? I recall her from The Crow and maybe an episode from Angel (and was she in the segment of Dumplings too?), but haven't come across her since. What did she do? Steve B: I know that they filmed the last episode a year after the previous episodes had finished production, but I don’t believe they did do a show that explained everything. It remains an unsolved puzzle.

By the way, could some one clue me up on the hate-on for Bai Ling? I recall her from The Crow and maybe an episode from Angel (and was she in the segment of Dumplings too?), but haven’t come across her since. What did she do?

]]> by: mark siegel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-98230 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:17:41 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-98230 Good post, Heidi! At First Second we have our ritual Thursday morning chat (see the doodle from day 1 of Season 3: http://firstsecondbooks.typepad.com/mainblog/2007/02/are_we_getting_.html ) The gripes are there, but damn is the thing enjoyable. It's funny, the last few months when I've been editing our authors, my comments refer most to two sources for examples of things: McKee's STORY and LOST SEASON 1. It's true, storytelling should stay away from polls, but I like the way LOST feels both controlled and out of control. Or that Jack was originally due to be killed off in episode 1. And what's with the foot statue with four toes? Good post, Heidi!

At First Second we have our ritual Thursday morning chat (see the doodle from day 1 of Season 3: http://firstsecondbooks.typepad.com/mainblog/2007/02/are_we_getting_.html )

The gripes are there, but damn is the thing enjoyable. It’s funny, the last few months when I’ve been editing our authors, my comments refer most to two sources for examples of things: McKee’s STORY and LOST SEASON 1.

It’s true, storytelling should stay away from polls, but I like the way LOST feels both controlled and out of control. Or that Jack was originally due to be killed off in episode 1.

And what’s with the foot statue with four toes?

]]> by: foxglove http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-98083 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:40:00 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-98083 Letting fans on the internet drive your writing? Bad idea. "Snakes on a Plane," anyone? And frankly, when I can say the line before the character does, that tells me these boneheads are getting paid too much, because I could write it. Way too predictable when you allow others to do your job for you. Write it yourself, doofus, and then maybe it'll be worth watching again. Letting fans on the internet drive your writing? Bad idea.

“Snakes on a Plane,” anyone?

And frankly, when I can say the line before the character does, that tells me these boneheads are getting paid too much, because I could write it. Way too predictable when you allow others to do your job for you. Write it yourself, doofus, and then maybe it’ll be worth watching again.

]]> by: Steve B http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97772 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:07:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97772 As far as The Prisoner goes, didn't they make a wrap-up show years later and explain everything? Is this part of TV continuity that we pretend never happened (a la Mopee)? Or am I just going crazy and I invented the whole ending myself? As far as The Prisoner goes, didn’t they make a wrap-up show years later and explain everything? Is this part of TV continuity that we pretend never happened (a la Mopee)? Or am I just going crazy and I invented the whole ending myself?

]]> by: dave roman http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97498 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:01:41 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97498 I just wish the characters on the show would actually talk to each other! It would solve all their problems. Great points Heidi. I just wish the characters on the show would actually talk to each other!
It would solve all their problems.

Great points Heidi.

]]> by: me http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97033 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:58:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97033 Each season has suffered from having about half a season's worth of actual story. In the first season the dry period came in the second half, in which they had to concoct silly conflicts and poisoning schemes to mark time until they could blow open the hatch at the end. The second and third seasons have both suffered from having the foot-dragging in the first half, and in the current season people are getting impatient because they're far enough along that they expect the narrative to be going full steam ahead, hence the notion that the show has lost its way or never had a plan to begin with. Looks like we just turned the corner. Each season has suffered from having about half a season’s worth of actual story. In the first season the dry period came in the second half, in which they had to concoct silly conflicts and poisoning schemes to mark time until they could blow open the hatch at the end. The second and third seasons have both suffered from having the foot-dragging in the first half, and in the current season people are getting impatient because they’re far enough along that they expect the narrative to be going full steam ahead, hence the notion that the show has lost its way or never had a plan to begin with. Looks like we just turned the corner.

]]> by: ~chris http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97022 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:48:57 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-97022 "THE PRISONER is still the greatest TV show ever" The Beat is wise beyond all telling. “THE PRISONER is still the greatest TV show ever”

The Beat is wise beyond all telling.

]]> by: John Dominguez http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96882 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:40:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96882 First Season was great, because it relied heavily on Flashbacks that added to the characters. Season 2 added a bunch of new survivors (now mostly dead or gone) and focused on them quite a bit and the hatch. Which weakened the storyline a bit. Season 3 has been better than 2 not as good as one so far, thought last nights was the BOMB (pun intended). The whole conversation with Ben and Locke was fantastic. Can't wait to see the whole origin of Ben episode :) Glad you joined the club Heidi First Season was great, because it relied heavily on Flashbacks that added to the characters. Season 2 added a bunch of new survivors (now mostly dead or gone) and focused on them quite a bit and the hatch. Which weakened the storyline a bit. Season 3 has been better than 2 not as good as one so far, thought last nights was the BOMB (pun intended). The whole conversation with Ben and Locke was fantastic. Can’t wait to see the whole origin of Ben episode :)
Glad you joined the club Heidi

]]> by: Alex http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96855 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:19:08 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96855 Amen to that, The Beat! I totally agree with you. I love the show, and though it can be maddening sometimes, I really get annoyed with the whiney fans. If you're going to sit for a story, you have to trust the storytellers. Amen to that, The Beat! I totally agree with you. I love the show, and though it can be maddening sometimes, I really get annoyed with the whiney fans. If you’re going to sit for a story, you have to trust the storytellers.

]]> by: HABE http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96827 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:31:18 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96827 Entertainment aside, the show is also a very interesting media experiment to watch. The fake commercials that used to run during the commercial breaks is an ingenious ploy to get people to sit through the ads. The Dharma Corp / Hanso Corp have cool fake Web sites to tantalize Internet sleuths. Amazon book sales skyrocket for the titles that get shown on the island, attracting people looking for clues. Fake blogs, real blogs, etc., etc., The writers are telling the story across different mediums and have turned it into an immersive experience for those who want it to be one. The audience can experience as much or as little of the story as they want. The fans also become involved in the story through debate and speculation (like this), and a lot of the mystery is getting filled in by the viewers' imaginations. Entertainment aside, the show is also a very interesting media experiment to watch.

The fake commercials that used to run during the commercial breaks is an ingenious ploy to get people to sit through the ads. The Dharma Corp / Hanso Corp have cool fake Web sites to tantalize Internet sleuths. Amazon book sales skyrocket for the titles that get shown on the island, attracting people looking for clues. Fake blogs, real blogs, etc., etc.,

The writers are telling the story across different mediums and have turned it into an immersive experience for those who want it to be one. The audience can experience as much or as little of the story as they want. The fans also become involved in the story through debate and speculation (like this), and a lot of the mystery is getting filled in by the viewers’ imaginations.

]]> by: Clay http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96813 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:14:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96813 I hate it. I love it. Loved last night. I had been a victim of Lost. Reading blogs. Buying books referenced in the series. Searching for answers. Season 2 lacked at times. This (3.5) season, I think has picked it up. Season 3 was crap. Is there Lost medication to stabilize this condition? Clicking on this link just to read your thoughts show that people (me including) are still talking, reading and writing about the show. Could be worse, could be talking about Dancing with the Stars. I hate it. I love it.
Loved last night. I had been a victim of Lost. Reading blogs. Buying books referenced in the series. Searching for answers. Season 2 lacked at times. This (3.5) season, I think has picked it up. Season 3 was crap. Is there Lost medication to stabilize this condition?
Clicking on this link just to read your thoughts show that people (me including) are still talking, reading and writing about the show.
Could be worse, could be talking about Dancing with the Stars.

]]> by: K. Thor Jensen http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96795 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:38:33 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96795 Bai Ling's terrifying bolt-ons almost made me and the wife bail on this show completely. Our general rule is "an episode is good if Sayiid is in it." Bai Ling’s terrifying bolt-ons almost made me and the wife bail on this show completely. Our general rule is “an episode is good if Sayiid is in it.”

]]> by: Tonio Hubilla http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96779 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96779 It always warms my heart to see asians/asian-americans & feminists banding together through their hatred of Bai Ling. It always warms my heart to see asians/asian-americans & feminists banding together through their hatred of Bai Ling.

]]> by: mike http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96749 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:41:29 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/03/22/the-lost-experience/#comment-96749 Wait, there's a damn magic box on the island, a literal deus ex machina, and I'm supposed to keep believing they aren't making this up as they're going along? Wait, there’s a damn magic box on the island, a literal deus ex machina, and I’m supposed to keep believing they aren’t making this up as they’re going along?

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