Comments on: Real Classic Marvel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:18:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Gonzoles http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-3719913 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:52:45 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-3719913 cool pics cool pics

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]]> by: MarvelFan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-452207 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:20:31 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-452207 mario gully might be the worst thing ever that's happened to comics. this could be the worst person ever for marvel to endorse http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=131691&#38;page=6 hes a thief and a felon. he was also arrested. mario gully might be the worst thing ever that’s happened to comics. this could be the worst person ever for marvel to endorse

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=131691&page=6

hes a thief and a felon. he was also arrested.

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-143752 Wed, 02 May 2007 06:42:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-143752 I don't think that making comics from old classics is going to give us any literary cred. In fact, I think it may even take away some. In order to have credibility, we must be sincere about what we do. People who don't know about comics will see this as simplifying (or dumbing down) stories in order to (as Torsten Adair so thoughtfully put it) trick kids in to reading. That's what it seems like to me; a trick. Nobody, not even kids, like to be tricked, and they will see that someone is trying to trick them. It seems to me that so many comics fans act ashamed about comics content when questioned about it. Even Alan Moore for whom I have the greatest respect, does this to a degree. I don’t think that making comics from old classics is going to give us any literary cred. In fact, I think it may even take away some. In order to have credibility, we must be sincere about what we do. People who don’t know about comics will see this as simplifying (or dumbing down) stories in order to (as Torsten Adair so thoughtfully put it) trick kids in to reading. That’s what it seems like to me; a trick. Nobody, not even kids, like to be tricked, and they will see that someone is trying to trick them. It seems to me that so many comics fans act ashamed about comics content when questioned about it. Even Alan Moore for whom I have the greatest respect, does this to a degree.

]]> by: michael http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-143528 Tue, 01 May 2007 22:59:29 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-143528 I have to agree with Bulent's sentiments, but I also find it hard to complain about comics that ANYONE will produce that actually give the market some literary cred and show that comics can be more than just superheroes. Good job Marvel! ;) I have to agree with Bulent’s sentiments, but I also find it hard to complain about comics that ANYONE will produce that actually give the market some literary cred and show that comics can be more than just superheroes. Good job Marvel! ;)

]]> by: Torsten Adair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142662 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:33:53 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142662 The pamphlet sales, low they may be, serve two purposes: it pays the cost of production, and it generates some reader interest which will help tradesales. Most of the classics I've seen are lackluster. Of note are the First/Berkeley Classics Illustrated line, and the rare interpretations out of England. If these titles have decent art and editing, they will do well in stores, libraries, and schools. I do find the ratings to be a bit curious. Maybe a trick to get kids to read them? Guess I'll have to wait for the Scarlet Letter to find out! Oh, and if this works, Marvel will have cheap inventory that can be easily recycled and repackaged for years to come. The pamphlet sales, low they may be, serve two purposes: it pays the cost of production, and it generates some reader interest which will help tradesales.
Most of the classics I’ve seen are lackluster. Of note are the First/Berkeley Classics Illustrated line, and the rare interpretations out of England.
If these titles have decent art and editing, they will do well in stores, libraries, and schools. I do find the ratings to be a bit curious. Maybe a trick to get kids to read them? Guess I’ll have to wait for the Scarlet Letter to find out!
Oh, and if this works, Marvel will have cheap inventory that can be easily recycled and repackaged for years to come.

]]> by: Tina Anderson http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142650 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:18:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142650 I'm going to stand up in the shallow pool here, and say, I would certainly buy this because, Maqua looks absolutely incredible on the cover. 0_0. They could sell me 23 pages of panels of snow inside, as long as the next cover is as hot as that one. Now that's what I call, proper-proportion. I’m going to stand up in the shallow pool here, and say, I would certainly buy this because, Maqua looks absolutely incredible on the cover. 0_0. They could sell me 23 pages of panels of snow inside, as long as the next cover is as hot as that one.

Now that’s what I call, proper-proportion.

]]> by: Scott Robins http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142560 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:38:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142560 The problem here is no one is really demanding it. Penguin released a line of graphic novel classics that tanked in the bookstores. Plus I can think of 3 or 4 more lines that have also not performed well. The only market that really wants these is the library/educational market and they've probably already bought the stuff that's already out there. The problem here is no one is really demanding it. Penguin released a line of graphic novel classics that tanked in the bookstores. Plus I can think of 3 or 4 more lines that have also not performed well. The only market that really wants these is the library/educational market and they’ve probably already bought the stuff that’s already out there.

]]> by: Bulent http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142509 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:15:37 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142509 The Marvel PR department is legendary for their bombast, but I reckon the phrase "because you demanded it!" is pushing things a little far. The Marvel PR department is legendary for their bombast, but I reckon the phrase “because you demanded it!” is pushing things a little far.

]]> by: Edward Liu http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142485 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:37:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/04/30/real-classic-marvel/#comment-142485 Does anybody know why these didn't just go straight to trade for the bookstore market to begin with? The only reason why most direct-market shops would order these titles at all is if they mistakenly think that the Hawkeye in "Last of the Mohicans" is the bow-shooting Avenger or "The Man in the Iron Mask" is the latest Civil War crossover title. I could be way off on this, but it seems that making these comics loss leaders in the direct market is a strategy that guarantees more "loss" than "leader." Then again, Marvel continues to push the Marvel Adventures titles in single issues and then digests, despite some truly abysmal DM sales, so maybe this isn't such a strange idea after all. Does anybody know why these didn’t just go straight to trade for the bookstore market to begin with? The only reason why most direct-market shops would order these titles at all is if they mistakenly think that the Hawkeye in “Last of the Mohicans” is the bow-shooting Avenger or “The Man in the Iron Mask” is the latest Civil War crossover title.

I could be way off on this, but it seems that making these comics loss leaders in the direct market is a strategy that guarantees more “loss” than “leader.” Then again, Marvel continues to push the Marvel Adventures titles in single issues and then digests, despite some truly abysmal DM sales, so maybe this isn’t such a strange idea after all.

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