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	<title>Comments on: TUF Season 5, Episode 6: Finally fights</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/</link>
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		<title>by: Marz Richards</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-155029</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Please keep covering whatever catches your fancy.  Since most major sports reporting outlets are having a crisis of confidence in their reportage on MMA it should fall to the better blogs and independent journalists to be ahead of the curve.  The MMA fighters are the best athletes on the planet and deserve more credit, cash and consideration than they are getting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep covering whatever catches your fancy.  Since most major sports reporting outlets are having a crisis of confidence in their reportage on MMA it should fall to the better blogs and independent journalists to be ahead of the curve.  The MMA fighters are the best athletes on the planet and deserve more credit, cash and consideration than they are getting.
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		<title>by: Simon Jones</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-154782</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-154782</guid>
					<description>Yep, it was the Crow versus Charles &quot;Captain Miserable&quot; McCarthy.  A highlight reel for the ages, that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it was the Crow versus Charles &#8220;Captain Miserable&#8221; McCarthy.  A highlight reel for the ages, that one.
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		<title>by: Matt Bayne</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-154044</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-154044</guid>
					<description>You mentioned previously that you'd gotten some flak for covering TUF here on the Beat. I have to say, while I can see why people would say that, I think that given the near ubiquity of comics with fights in them, that writers and illustrators would benefit from watching UFC bouts. With the UFC gaining popularity, anyone who watches it for a while will develop a new set of expectations which they'll bring with them when they consume media, including comics. So, writers and artists who want to help their readers stay in the story need to be up to speed.

Just a few examples:
1) The big swing: Having seen so many guys swing as hard as they can in actual fights, it is really easy to spot when someone is &quot;over-swinging&quot; or aiming their strike too far away from their opponent to be believable (like the classic &quot;clothesline&quot; in professional wrestling). It is also really easy to spot when somebody is softening the strike, making contact and noise, but taking all the gas out of it (again, for me, pro-wrestling has been spoiled!).

2) The one punch knock-out we see so often in comics and movies is actually pretty rare. It happens, yes (Arlovski vs. Buentello, etc), but not all the time. Sometimes a fighter will get hit right on the chin, and get &quot;rocked,&quot; but not knocked out. Don't usually see that happen in comic fight scenes, but there's no reason writers couldn't use it more. Also, in movies and comics, typically when someone gets knocked out, they usually stay out for the rest of the time the striker is on scene. But in fights, knockouts can last four minutes or four seconds. So maybe more opponents could be getting up sooner, and returning to the fight, or deciding to flee. Or maybe getting up but being wobbly for a while, which would happen all the time in the UFC if it wasn't for the refs in the ring and the expert medical staff on-site. But when everyone who gets hit gets knocked out in one shot, as a reader, I get bored.

3) As an example of increased knowledge of fighting improving my reading/viewing experience instead of lessening it, sometimes in anime (for example, Princess Mononoke, or Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex), they'll show someone get knocked out when being hit in the abdomen. I always thought that was boloney (I was so, so uninformed) until I saw a UFC bout where one fighter (was it David &quot;The Crow&quot; Loiseau?) did a spinning back kick, hitting his opponent in the liver area, making him collapse with an agonized expression. There was another liver-shot knock-out in the TUF 4 finale, when Pete Sell pounded Scott Smith in the lower ribs area, about two seconds before Scott Smith came back and knocked Pete Sell out with a punch on the chin (definitely one for the &quot;best knock-outs of all time&quot; reel).

So, from where I sit, thanks for covering TUF. I think ultimately it will be good for comics if more writers and artists get familiar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned previously that you&#8217;d gotten some flak for covering TUF here on the Beat. I have to say, while I can see why people would say that, I think that given the near ubiquity of comics with fights in them, that writers and illustrators would benefit from watching UFC bouts. With the UFC gaining popularity, anyone who watches it for a while will develop a new set of expectations which they&#8217;ll bring with them when they consume media, including comics. So, writers and artists who want to help their readers stay in the story need to be up to speed.</p>
<p>Just a few examples:<br />
1) The big swing: Having seen so many guys swing as hard as they can in actual fights, it is really easy to spot when someone is &#8220;over-swinging&#8221; or aiming their strike too far away from their opponent to be believable (like the classic &#8220;clothesline&#8221; in professional wrestling). It is also really easy to spot when somebody is softening the strike, making contact and noise, but taking all the gas out of it (again, for me, pro-wrestling has been spoiled!).</p>
<p>2) The one punch knock-out we see so often in comics and movies is actually pretty rare. It happens, yes (Arlovski vs. Buentello, etc), but not all the time. Sometimes a fighter will get hit right on the chin, and get &#8220;rocked,&#8221; but not knocked out. Don&#8217;t usually see that happen in comic fight scenes, but there&#8217;s no reason writers couldn&#8217;t use it more. Also, in movies and comics, typically when someone gets knocked out, they usually stay out for the rest of the time the striker is on scene. But in fights, knockouts can last four minutes or four seconds. So maybe more opponents could be getting up sooner, and returning to the fight, or deciding to flee. Or maybe getting up but being wobbly for a while, which would happen all the time in the UFC if it wasn&#8217;t for the refs in the ring and the expert medical staff on-site. But when everyone who gets hit gets knocked out in one shot, as a reader, I get bored.</p>
<p>3) As an example of increased knowledge of fighting improving my reading/viewing experience instead of lessening it, sometimes in anime (for example, Princess Mononoke, or Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex), they&#8217;ll show someone get knocked out when being hit in the abdomen. I always thought that was boloney (I was so, so uninformed) until I saw a UFC bout where one fighter (was it David &#8220;The Crow&#8221; Loiseau?) did a spinning back kick, hitting his opponent in the liver area, making him collapse with an agonized expression. There was another liver-shot knock-out in the TUF 4 finale, when Pete Sell pounded Scott Smith in the lower ribs area, about two seconds before Scott Smith came back and knocked Pete Sell out with a punch on the chin (definitely one for the &#8220;best knock-outs of all time&#8221; reel).</p>
<p>So, from where I sit, thanks for covering TUF. I think ultimately it will be good for comics if more writers and artists get familiar.
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		<title>by: Bon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/12/tuf-season-5-episode-6-finally-fights/#comment-152167</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 18:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lauzon's my favorite to win it now.  You could almost see Jens crapping his pants.  That no hooks-in rear naked choke was spectacular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauzon&#8217;s my favorite to win it now.  You could almost see Jens crapping his pants.  That no hooks-in rear naked choke was spectacular.
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