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	<title>Comments on: Can You Trust Newsarama?</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/</link>
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		<title>by: Scantlin</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-3293900</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Excellent post, keep it up</description>
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		<title>by: Brick walls &#171; Precocious Curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-170104</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-170104</guid>
					<description>[...] And seriously, if this is the kind of insight that having an exclusive arrangement with Marvel will get you (&amp;#8221;&amp;#8230;the Brood have tentacles, sorry about that.&amp;#8221;), then the up side completely escapes me. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And seriously, if this is the kind of insight that having an exclusive arrangement with Marvel will get you (&#8221;&#8230;the Brood have tentacles, sorry about that.&#8221;), then the up side completely escapes me. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165657</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165657</guid>
					<description>I think the CB Bin people have a good point.

That said, I like Heidi, find nothing really wrong with what people (the beat, newsarama, cbr, etc.) are doing, and I think any astute comic book fan would easily be able to distinguish the articles that are clear marketing and those that actually have something to say that isn't a sales pitch.

I don't think anyone can call foul as long as there is open discussion about this and no one is trying to hide this fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the CB Bin people have a good point.</p>
<p>That said, I like Heidi, find nothing really wrong with what people (the beat, newsarama, cbr, etc.) are doing, and I think any astute comic book fan would easily be able to distinguish the articles that are clear marketing and those that actually have something to say that isn&#8217;t a sales pitch.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone can call foul as long as there is open discussion about this and no one is trying to hide this fact.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165394</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165394</guid>
					<description>One of the superhero journalists you mention is currently being sued by his former employer for taking staged photos of himself and for fraud against said newspaper.
To which Photoshopping pales in comparison... 

I recall the Comics Buyer's Guide mentioning something similar back in the early 90s... Marvel stopped sending review copies because they didn't like the reviews. 
If the big boys won't let you play with their football, take up golf.  There are a lot of other companies, some MUCH bigger than DC and Marvel, producing graphic novels.  There are smaller companies where early exposure creates trust for the future. 
Ignore the head cheerleader, and she might wonder why she's being ignored, and try to get your notice. Meanwhile, talk with the interesting people who hang out in the library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the superhero journalists you mention is currently being sued by his former employer for taking staged photos of himself and for fraud against said newspaper.<br />
To which Photoshopping pales in comparison&#8230; </p>
<p>I recall the Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide mentioning something similar back in the early 90s&#8230; Marvel stopped sending review copies because they didn&#8217;t like the reviews.<br />
If the big boys won&#8217;t let you play with their football, take up golf.  There are a lot of other companies, some MUCH bigger than DC and Marvel, producing graphic novels.  There are smaller companies where early exposure creates trust for the future.<br />
Ignore the head cheerleader, and she might wonder why she&#8217;s being ignored, and try to get your notice. Meanwhile, talk with the interesting people who hang out in the library.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165393</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165393</guid>
					<description>One of the superhero journalists you mention is currently being sued by his former employer for taking staged photos of himself and for fraud against said newspaper.
To which Photoshopping pales in comparison... 

I recall the Comics Buyer's Guide mentioning something similar back in the early 90s... Marvel stopped sending review copies because they didn't like the reviews. 
If the big boys won't let you play with their football, take up golf.  There are a lot of other companies, some MUCH bigger than DC and Marvel, producing graphic novels.  There are smaller companies where early exposure creates trust for the future. 
Ignore the head cheerleader, and she might wonder why she's being ignored, and try to get your notice. Meanwhile, talk with the interesting people who hang out in the library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the superhero journalists you mention is currently being sued by his former employer for taking staged photos of himself and for fraud against said newspaper.<br />
To which Photoshopping pales in comparison&#8230; </p>
<p>I recall the Comics Buyer&#8217;s Guide mentioning something similar back in the early 90s&#8230; Marvel stopped sending review copies because they didn&#8217;t like the reviews.<br />
If the big boys won&#8217;t let you play with their football, take up golf.  There are a lot of other companies, some MUCH bigger than DC and Marvel, producing graphic novels.  There are smaller companies where early exposure creates trust for the future.<br />
Ignore the head cheerleader, and she might wonder why she&#8217;s being ignored, and try to get your notice. Meanwhile, talk with the interesting people who hang out in the library.
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		<title>by: Elayne Riggs</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165385</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165385</guid>
					<description>&quot;You’ll need to develop your own sources and your own reporters who can sniff out an actual story and not canned PR.&quot; TELL me about it!

Oh, and what HABE said.  We've had a mainstream press on bended knee for at least the last half-dozen years (and before that they attacked whom their masters told them to even if there was no reason to do so).  It's not like they're setting any sort of example for cultural critics.

My biggest pet peeve, besides parroting press releases, is when otherwise qualified and interesting reviewers completely ignore the art in a comic they're reviewing.  If you don't have the vocab or knowledge to talk about art, maybe you should either acquire it or consider being a prose book reviewer instead...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’ll need to develop your own sources and your own reporters who can sniff out an actual story and not canned PR.&#8221; TELL me about it!</p>
<p>Oh, and what HABE said.  We&#8217;ve had a mainstream press on bended knee for at least the last half-dozen years (and before that they attacked whom their masters told them to even if there was no reason to do so).  It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re setting any sort of example for cultural critics.</p>
<p>My biggest pet peeve, besides parroting press releases, is when otherwise qualified and interesting reviewers completely ignore the art in a comic they&#8217;re reviewing.  If you don&#8217;t have the vocab or knowledge to talk about art, maybe you should either acquire it or consider being a prose book reviewer instead&#8230;
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		<title>by: Blog@Newsarama &#187; I&#8217;m a color reporter, rose city on the 409.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165272</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-165272</guid>
					<description>[...] This post - and the resulting thread - leads to Heidi MacDonald being just one of a number of people wondering &amp;#8220;Can you trust Newsarama?*&amp;#8221;:  I work for a legitimate news outlet — Publishers Weekly Comics Week — but when attempting to write my own “report” on certain news stories I’ve actually been told the only statement anyone would make was up on Newsarama, which already has a sweetheart deal set up with the big players at DC and Marvel to put up weekly press releases on thoroughly vetted subjects. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This post - and the resulting thread - leads to Heidi MacDonald being just one of a number of people wondering &#8220;Can you trust Newsarama?*&#8221;:  I work for a legitimate news outlet — Publishers Weekly Comics Week — but when attempting to write my own “report” on certain news stories I’ve actually been told the only statement anyone would make was up on Newsarama, which already has a sweetheart deal set up with the big players at DC and Marvel to put up weekly press releases on thoroughly vetted subjects. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The Right and the Wrong in Comics Journalism at chrisarrant.com</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164194</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164194</guid>
					<description>[...] Heidi MacDonald goes deeper in a post at The Beat, speaking from her years in the trenches at Disney, The Pulse, Publishers Weekly and her long-running blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Heidi MacDonald goes deeper in a post at The Beat, speaking from her years in the trenches at Disney, The Pulse, Publishers Weekly and her long-running blog. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Chris Arrant</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164193</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164193</guid>
					<description>At the end of the day, all of these operations are businesses and are run with the implicit goal to make money. With that in mind, it's safe to assume that these third parties don't have your, the individual reader, best interest at heart and that you shouldn't trust then implicitly. But do I think that's a bad thing? No.

Each site and magazine has it's pros and cons, but I think all in all that the comic industry has the journalism contigent that it deserves. Sure, more (as in quality, not quantity) would be great for the small fraction of us who want to read that kind of real news rather than EW-style entertainment news, but there's honestly not the financial backing to fund such a venture.

I'd be first in line to read/write/consume for such a venture, but as heidi says &quot;the cost-to-benefit ratio of such an enterprise would not be worth it right now.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, all of these operations are businesses and are run with the implicit goal to make money. With that in mind, it&#8217;s safe to assume that these third parties don&#8217;t have your, the individual reader, best interest at heart and that you shouldn&#8217;t trust then implicitly. But do I think that&#8217;s a bad thing? No.</p>
<p>Each site and magazine has it&#8217;s pros and cons, but I think all in all that the comic industry has the journalism contigent that it deserves. Sure, more (as in quality, not quantity) would be great for the small fraction of us who want to read that kind of real news rather than EW-style entertainment news, but there&#8217;s honestly not the financial backing to fund such a venture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be first in line to read/write/consume for such a venture, but as heidi says &#8220;the cost-to-benefit ratio of such an enterprise would not be worth it right now.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Alex Cox</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164136</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-164136</guid>
					<description>The Spurge cracks me up.</description>
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		<title>by: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163983</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163983</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;How can we beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch for a breaking story?&lt;/i&gt;

Define &quot;breaking&quot;?

Part of the problem with comics &quot;journalism&quot; is that there isn't a lot of &quot;news&quot; to cover.  It's mostly PR fluff, along with reviews and interviews of various length and depth.  When there is news of interest, it's often ignored or under-reported, because it's such a small, incestuous industry, people are reluctant to go on the record about anything.

There's also not a significant audience clamoring for real comics news, either, so it's a double-edged sword. If nobody really cares, why should anybody care?

That said, I think the web is the best place for anything specifically targeting the comics world these days.  The audience is way too fractured, with a huge gulf between the direct market and mainstream consumer -- geographically and demographically --  for something like Comic Foundry to work in print. A broader focus on pop culture &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; work, sort of like Geek Monthly is attempting, but I wouldn't bet any of my own money on that one. Giant Robot has been mentioned ot me on several occasions as a good example of how it could be done, but I'm not familiar with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How can we beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch for a breaking story?</i></p>
<p>Define &#8220;breaking&#8221;?</p>
<p>Part of the problem with comics &#8220;journalism&#8221; is that there isn&#8217;t a lot of &#8220;news&#8221; to cover.  It&#8217;s mostly PR fluff, along with reviews and interviews of various length and depth.  When there is news of interest, it&#8217;s often ignored or under-reported, because it&#8217;s such a small, incestuous industry, people are reluctant to go on the record about anything.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also not a significant audience clamoring for real comics news, either, so it&#8217;s a double-edged sword. If nobody really cares, why should anybody care?</p>
<p>That said, I think the web is the best place for anything specifically targeting the comics world these days.  The audience is way too fractured, with a huge gulf between the direct market and mainstream consumer &#8212; geographically and demographically &#8212;  for something like Comic Foundry to work in print. A broader focus on pop culture <i>might</i> work, sort of like Geek Monthly is attempting, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet any of my own money on that one. Giant Robot has been mentioned ot me on several occasions as a good example of how it could be done, but I&#8217;m not familiar with it.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163971</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You can never beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch because approved news is released only to approved outlets, like those sites, Wizard and, increasingly, EW and the New York Times. 

You'll need to develop your own sources and your own reporters who can sniff out an actual story and not canned PR. And once you do that, you will no longer get cooperation from &quot;official&quot; sources, or at least that's the way it was when I was working on the Pulse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can never beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch because approved news is released only to approved outlets, like those sites, Wizard and, increasingly, EW and the New York Times. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need to develop your own sources and your own reporters who can sniff out an actual story and not canned PR. And once you do that, you will no longer get cooperation from &#8220;official&#8221; sources, or at least that&#8217;s the way it was when I was working on the Pulse.
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		<title>by: Mike Phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163956</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163956</guid>
					<description>If I were running a novice comics news site, are there some suggestions on how to become solid in, say, a year? How do we get those leads. How can we beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch for a breaking story?

Anyone have any helpful hints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were running a novice comics news site, are there some suggestions on how to become solid in, say, a year? How do we get those leads. How can we beat Newsarama and CBR to the punch for a breaking story?</p>
<p>Anyone have any helpful hints?
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		<title>by: Search Engine Lover</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163910</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163910</guid>
					<description>&quot;There are plenty of reasons to never read Newsarama or Wizard.com.&quot;

Actually,  Wizard.com is a severely underrated search engine. I'm guessing by your comment that you haven't fully explored its full algorithmic brilliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are plenty of reasons to never read Newsarama or Wizard.com.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually,  Wizard.com is a severely underrated search engine. I&#8217;m guessing by your comment that you haven&#8217;t fully explored its full algorithmic brilliance.
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		<title>by: HABE</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163827</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 17:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163827</guid>
					<description>The state of comics journalism sounds like it's just catching up to the state of mainstream journalism.</description>
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		<title>by: Bentcorner</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163788</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163788</guid>
					<description>If trusting the funny book news site that dares to bring us NEW JOE FRIDAYS is wrong, I don't want to be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If trusting the funny book news site that dares to bring us NEW JOE FRIDAYS is wrong, I don&#8217;t want to be right.
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		<title>by: Christopher Moonlight</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163766</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>it’s not that I disagree with your opinion, but that your opinion is based on you just plain not understanding what you read.” 

This  is why Chuck Austen got run out of comics. He was writing comics that were just as good as Alan Moore, but those who didn't understand, told everyone else what to think about his work. Then more people who &quot;didn't understand&quot; jumped on the bandwagon. It's Fahrenheit 451. Do you know what I mean?

http://christophermoonlight.blogspot.com/2007/01/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifchuck.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it’s not that I disagree with your opinion, but that your opinion is based on you just plain not understanding what you read.” </p>
<p>This  is why Chuck Austen got run out of comics. He was writing comics that were just as good as Alan Moore, but those who didn&#8217;t understand, told everyone else what to think about his work. Then more people who &#8220;didn&#8217;t understand&#8221; jumped on the bandwagon. It&#8217;s Fahrenheit 451. Do you know what I mean?</p>
<p><a href='http://christophermoonlight.blogspot.com/2007/01/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifchuck.html' rel='nofollow'>http://christophermoonlight.blogspot.com/2007/01/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifchuck.html</a>
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		<title>by: Kevin Colden</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163756</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wizard is the equivalent of People magazine, and TCJ is the New Yorker; I long for a comics' equivalent of Rolling Stone. Comic Foundry is damn close to that missing link.

I think what Tim's trying to do here is admirable. We need this mag. Hell, I want a subscription right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wizard is the equivalent of People magazine, and TCJ is the New Yorker; I long for a comics&#8217; equivalent of Rolling Stone. Comic Foundry is damn close to that missing link.</p>
<p>I think what Tim&#8217;s trying to do here is admirable. We need this mag. Hell, I want a subscription right now.
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		<title>by: charles foster kane</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/21/can-you-trust-newsarama/#comment-163698</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are plenty of reasons to never read Newsarama or Wizard.com. Those are just some of them.</description>
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