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		<title>by: michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-213312</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>whatever. it's just reporting is all, Chris.  anyways, I was wondering if Chandler ever put out any comics like Mickey did waay back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever. it&#8217;s just reporting is all, Chris.  anyways, I was wondering if Chandler ever put out any comics like Mickey did waay back.
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		<title>by: STWALLSKULL &#187; Interesting Links: June 21, 2007</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-212213</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Miller, Owen team for TROUBLE  from THE BEAT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Miller, Owen team for TROUBLE  from THE BEAT [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-211818</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And as you all know, Roger Rabbit was freely adapted from the book, Who Censored Roger Rabbit?, so maybe this adaptation will be decent, shweetheart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as you all know, Roger Rabbit was freely adapted from the book, Who Censored Roger Rabbit?, so maybe this adaptation will be decent, shweetheart.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-211807</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Chinatown was okay (loved that trick with the watch), but I find it to be a poor copy of Who Framed Roger Rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinatown was okay (loved that trick with the watch), but I find it to be a poor copy of Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
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		<title>by: Sphinx Magoo</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-211246</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Aren't Mr. Miller's art projects being held up because of an injury to his drawing arm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t Mr. Miller&#8217;s art projects being held up because of an injury to his drawing arm?
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		<title>by: Brian Spence</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-210524</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm going to give Frank the benefit of the doubt that he could make a good movie.  I really hope he pulls it off, as (I believe) it would be a first for a comic book creator to become a successful filmmaker.  Sure, there are people who are here and there, mostly in TV, but this could be big.  We'll end up seeing all our top talent gobbled up by Hollywood, and then more and more talented people will find comics to be a gateway to getting a directing gig (for better or worse).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to give Frank the benefit of the doubt that he could make a good movie.  I really hope he pulls it off, as (I believe) it would be a first for a comic book creator to become a successful filmmaker.  Sure, there are people who are here and there, mostly in TV, but this could be big.  We&#8217;ll end up seeing all our top talent gobbled up by Hollywood, and then more and more talented people will find comics to be a gateway to getting a directing gig (for better or worse).
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209526</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder why Miller hasn't tried to get the film rights to a Mickey Spillane film? Certainly, that would be more in line with his SIN CITY style than Chandler's tomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why Miller hasn&#8217;t tried to get the film rights to a Mickey Spillane film? Certainly, that would be more in line with his SIN CITY style than Chandler&#8217;s tomes.
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		<title>by: badMike</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209513</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>rich says: &quot;I have to argue with that. CHINATOWN was written by Robert Towne, and the ending revising by Roman Polanski.&quot;

Well, the ending was the most notorious/famous conflict over Chinatown where Towne became very unhappy with what Polanski wanted to do, i.e. a depressing ending rather than a happy one. However, the original C-town script was reportedly a 200-page behemoth with tons of complicated detail about the water deal that's only covered in somewhat slight terms in the final film. Polanski did a lot to whittle the script down into the taught thriller that's become a classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rich says: &#8220;I have to argue with that. CHINATOWN was written by Robert Towne, and the ending revising by Roman Polanski.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the ending was the most notorious/famous conflict over Chinatown where Towne became very unhappy with what Polanski wanted to do, i.e. a depressing ending rather than a happy one. However, the original C-town script was reportedly a 200-page behemoth with tons of complicated detail about the water deal that&#8217;s only covered in somewhat slight terms in the final film. Polanski did a lot to whittle the script down into the taught thriller that&#8217;s become a classic.
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209450</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I dunno ... Miller and Owen could surprise and make a good Chandler film.

&quot;And anyone who argues with that has never read Chandler. Or seen Chinatown. Or… read a book.&quot;

I have to argue with that.  CHINATOWN was written by Robert Towne, and the ending revising by Roman Polanski.  It was influenced by Chandler's stories, I suppose, but Towne was making an effort to turn some of the detective clichés on their collective ear.  Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler are often accused of clichés by ignorant critics, despite the fact that they were the architects of the genre.

As for Dashiell Hammett, my favorite author ... Hell, yes, Heidi ... let's see a REAL adaptation of RED HARVEST.  I've seen FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, YOJIMBO, and LAST MAN STANDING ... when I finally read Hammett's novel, however, I saw little resemblence between RED HARVEST and these films, all of which claim to be adaptations of sorts.

I'm not certain how this RED HARVEST ever became connected to this films, except it had something to do with legal action between Akira Kurosawa and Sergio Leone.  I think Leone claimed that his movie owed more to RED HARVEST than YOJIMBO.  Frankly, I don't see the resemblence.  Two gangs are at war, and there's a good guy in the middle.  If that's the standard for &quot;adaptation&quot;, you could argue that every superhero ever created is directly stolen from THE SHADOW and DOC SAVAGE.

MILLER'S CROSSING splices elements of RED HARVEST and the GLASS KEY ... but we still don't have a faithful film of the former.  As for GLASS KEY, skip CROSSING and dig up a copy of GLASS KEY (1942) with Alan Ladd and Veronica Lake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno &#8230; Miller and Owen could surprise and make a good Chandler film.</p>
<p>&#8220;And anyone who argues with that has never read Chandler. Or seen Chinatown. Or… read a book.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to argue with that.  CHINATOWN was written by Robert Towne, and the ending revising by Roman Polanski.  It was influenced by Chandler&#8217;s stories, I suppose, but Towne was making an effort to turn some of the detective clichés on their collective ear.  Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler are often accused of clichés by ignorant critics, despite the fact that they were the architects of the genre.</p>
<p>As for Dashiell Hammett, my favorite author &#8230; Hell, yes, Heidi &#8230; let&#8217;s see a REAL adaptation of RED HARVEST.  I&#8217;ve seen FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, YOJIMBO, and LAST MAN STANDING &#8230; when I finally read Hammett&#8217;s novel, however, I saw little resemblence between RED HARVEST and these films, all of which claim to be adaptations of sorts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not certain how this RED HARVEST ever became connected to this films, except it had something to do with legal action between Akira Kurosawa and Sergio Leone.  I think Leone claimed that his movie owed more to RED HARVEST than YOJIMBO.  Frankly, I don&#8217;t see the resemblence.  Two gangs are at war, and there&#8217;s a good guy in the middle.  If that&#8217;s the standard for &#8220;adaptation&#8221;, you could argue that every superhero ever created is directly stolen from THE SHADOW and DOC SAVAGE.</p>
<p>MILLER&#8217;S CROSSING splices elements of RED HARVEST and the GLASS KEY &#8230; but we still don&#8217;t have a faithful film of the former.  As for GLASS KEY, skip CROSSING and dig up a copy of GLASS KEY (1942) with Alan Ladd and Veronica Lake.
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		<title>by: Scratchie</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209435</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&amp;#62;Anyone who equates Chandler with Sin City needs to be beaten.

Bingo. Miller really needs to learn something about film noir (to say nothing of Chandler's character-driven stories) besides what it looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Anyone who equates Chandler with Sin City needs to be beaten.</p>
<p>Bingo. Miller really needs to learn something about film noir (to say nothing of Chandler&#8217;s character-driven stories) besides what it looks like.
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		<title>by: Neeb</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209323</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Anyone who equates Chandler with Sin City needs to be beaten.
And anyone who argues with that has never read Chandler. Or seen Chinatown. Or... read a book.
Fortunately, this project will never see a green-light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who equates Chandler with Sin City needs to be beaten.<br />
And anyone who argues with that has never read Chandler. Or seen Chinatown. Or&#8230; read a book.<br />
Fortunately, this project will never see a green-light.
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		<title>by: Chris Prievo</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/20/miller-owen-team-for-trouble/#comment-209247</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok Frank! Enough! we know your ego is bigger than the solar system.....why don't you finish one thing at at time, Sin City 2 isn't even done, ALL-Star Batman isn't done yet, The Spirit is'nt even in motion yet, and you also want to add THIS to your list after Batman vs Al-Queada? 
AH ha ah ahahhaha ahah ah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Frank! Enough! we know your ego is bigger than the solar system&#8230;..why don&#8217;t you finish one thing at at time, Sin City 2 isn&#8217;t even done, ALL-Star Batman isn&#8217;t done yet, The Spirit is&#8217;nt even in motion yet, and you also want to add THIS to your list after Batman vs Al-Queada?<br />
AH ha ah ahahhaha ahah ah
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