Comments on: If a blogger posts in the woods… http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:42:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Tim O'Shea http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-216807 Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:47:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-216807 And yet, who will donate to the "Stop the Hatin': Buy Scott McCloud A New Dress" fund? Great post, Heidi. And yet, who will donate to the “Stop the Hatin’: Buy Scott McCloud A New Dress” fund?

Great post, Heidi.

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-215372 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:04:01 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-215372 I'm willing to donate 5 bucks to the Buy-Heidi-A-New-Dress fund! I’m willing to donate 5 bucks to the Buy-Heidi-A-New-Dress fund!

]]> by: Torsten Adair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-215262 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:46:16 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-215262 Hmmm... No three month long discussion in the Comics Buyer's Guide letter columns? (Writers Vs Artists) Hmmm… No three month long discussion in the Comics Buyer’s Guide letter columns? (Writers Vs Artists)

]]> by: Lea http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214863 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:51:11 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214863 Which bloggers? Names! Names! I'm with Tinpan. The rage has been building for a loooong time, and now that women (and men) who have hated this shit for years actually have other people saying, "No, I do, too," and they are finally venting. These people do LOVE comics! They want to stop seeing their favorite characters killed, manhandled and reduced. They want comics to be better. More power to them. The Big Two are pissing in the pool that is comics' reputation and they need to stop. The outrage now is far better than the alternative: being shouted down, being told you're crazy, being told the women or woman sleazily depicted really kick ass so the cover's okay, and on and on. Which bloggers? Names! Names!

I’m with Tinpan. The rage has been building for a loooong time, and now that women (and men) who have hated this shit for years actually have other people saying, “No, I do, too,” and they are finally venting. These people do LOVE comics! They want to stop seeing their favorite characters killed, manhandled and reduced. They want comics to be better. More power to them.
The Big Two are pissing in the pool that is comics’ reputation and they need to stop.

The outrage now is far better than the alternative: being shouted down, being told you’re crazy, being told the women or woman sleazily depicted really kick ass so the cover’s okay, and on and on.

]]> by: matteo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214518 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:37 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214518 great post, heidi!While reading, i was thinking " I wonder what is she going to write about 2007"... I laughed out loud ! I hope to see more posts like this. great post, heidi!While reading, i was thinking ” I wonder what is she going to write about 2007″… I laughed out loud ! I hope to see more posts like this.

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214501 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:39:03 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214501 Mmmm, Erotic cannibalism. Mmmm, Erotic cannibalism.

]]> by: Elayne Riggs http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214500 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:35:29 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214500 Great evolutionary timeline, Heidi! (BTW, dreamt last night about hanging with you at a con, and of course you looked fabulous, so now I'm looking foward to seeing you this weekend that much more!) The thing about cover complaints is, yes, sometimes when you're approaching everything from a certain viewpoint you'll always find the exact offense you're looking for. But by and large I don't think feminist comic book readers go out of their way to find this stuff. It's still way too prevalent (and of course not only in comics but in just about every other aspect of American culture -- I didn't ask to say "eww" to the sexism in at least four ads during Studio 60 last night -- but in comics fora one expects comics to be the main subject matter) that it's hard to get away from, it's so "in your face"! I like to think I approach any chosen entertainment WANTING to like it, so it's even more disappointing when I'm turned off right from the start by, for instance, a cover image specifically and consciously designed to elicit an emotional reaction that is often positive for the male gaze and negative for the female one. Great evolutionary timeline, Heidi! (BTW, dreamt last night about hanging with you at a con, and of course you looked fabulous, so now I’m looking foward to seeing you this weekend that much more!)

The thing about cover complaints is, yes, sometimes when you’re approaching everything from a certain viewpoint you’ll always find the exact offense you’re looking for. But by and large I don’t think feminist comic book readers go out of their way to find this stuff. It’s still way too prevalent (and of course not only in comics but in just about every other aspect of American culture — I didn’t ask to say “eww” to the sexism in at least four ads during Studio 60 last night — but in comics fora one expects comics to be the main subject matter) that it’s hard to get away from, it’s so “in your face”! I like to think I approach any chosen entertainment WANTING to like it, so it’s even more disappointing when I’m turned off right from the start by, for instance, a cover image specifically and consciously designed to elicit an emotional reaction that is often positive for the male gaze and negative for the female one.

]]> by: David Accampo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214494 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:28:21 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214494 This is a brilliant post. that's all I have to say. Well, unless you tune into my podca-- Oh, I'm kidding. This is a brilliant post.

that’s all I have to say.

Well, unless you tune into my podca–

Oh, I’m kidding.

]]> by: Tinpan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214466 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:07:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214466 I'm also pretty sure that every would-be cartoonist secretly hates Scott McCloud at this point. And if they don't, just say "royalties from three bestsellers." The mere mention of it will instantly have their envious and hidden-heart-of-hearts calling for McCloud's head Then again, that could just be me. I kid, of course. I’m also pretty sure that every would-be cartoonist secretly hates Scott McCloud at this point. And if they don’t, just say “royalties from three bestsellers.” The mere mention of it will instantly have their envious and hidden-heart-of-hearts calling for McCloud’s head
Then again, that could just be me.

I kid, of course.

]]> by: Tinpan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214424 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:20:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214424 I think the whole phenomena- whatsit about the covers has been brewing for years, and now that people have got the ball rolling they're letting out some steam. Sure, some "outrages" are like Tabasco sauce in an Indian restaurant (in other words, redundant???) but it's asituation wherein a lot of people have been pissed off at comics for years and will find any reason to vent. I still remember the sad, sad day when I stopped discerning any sense from comic "*********" because I was always being distracted by the impossible wedgies on the characters' butts. I moved on to other comics, but I still get a wiff of nostalgia and sense of betrayal from "**********". 'I remember the time you had panties that covered your pubic thatch,' and so on. I personally think the glut of feminist outrage will neither hurt nor improve the current industry climate, to be honest; I don't think the covers or the images will change. But bringing them up gets people talking, communities forming, and covens bubbling, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the whole phenomena- whatsit about the covers has been brewing for years, and now that people have got the ball rolling they’re letting out some steam. Sure, some “outrages” are like Tabasco sauce in an Indian restaurant (in other words, redundant???) but it’s asituation wherein a lot of people have been pissed off at comics for years and will find any reason to vent. I still remember the sad, sad day when I stopped discerning any sense from comic “*********” because I was always being distracted by the impossible wedgies on the characters’ butts. I moved on to other comics, but I still get a wiff of nostalgia and sense of betrayal from “**********”. ‘I remember the time you had panties that covered your pubic thatch,’ and so on.

I personally think the glut of feminist outrage will neither hurt nor improve the current industry climate, to be honest; I don’t think the covers or the images will change. But bringing them up gets people talking, communities forming, and covens bubbling, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

]]> by: charles foster kane http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214394 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:56:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214394 Why doesn't Heidi like Scott? Why doesn’t Heidi like Scott?

]]> by: Kneon Transitt http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214370 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:26:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/06/22/if-a-blogger-posts-in-the-woods/#comment-214370 Remember kids: Google is not your friend. Remember kids: Google is not your friend.

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