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	<title>Comments on: SD07: Showdown at Hall H</title>
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		<title>by: Jackie Estrada</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-322844</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thinking more about 1986, how could I have forgotten the great Barb Rausch, my collaborator on a story for Deni Loubert's &quot;Renegade Romance&quot;? And it is was in the mid-1980s that Carol Lay and Mary Fleener started attending Comic-Con. I'm pretty sure that Dori Seda was there in 1986, as well as Krystine Kryttre and others of the  &quot;Twisted Sisters&quot; gang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking more about 1986, how could I have forgotten the great Barb Rausch, my collaborator on a story for Deni Loubert&#8217;s &#8220;Renegade Romance&#8221;? And it is was in the mid-1980s that Carol Lay and Mary Fleener started attending Comic-Con. I&#8217;m pretty sure that Dori Seda was there in 1986, as well as Krystine Kryttre and others of the  &#8220;Twisted Sisters&#8221; gang.
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321905</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>*smack* Roberta Gregory!
I bought Winging It from her. Sorry, Roberta! Thanks, Eric.

Like I said, I was looking for other women and didn't find them. It's good to know it was better than I remember, as I sure did enjoy it. SDCC was the highlight of my year until 2000. Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*smack* Roberta Gregory!<br />
I bought Winging It from her. Sorry, Roberta! Thanks, Eric.</p>
<p>Like I said, I was looking for other women and didn&#8217;t find them. It&#8217;s good to know it was better than I remember, as I sure did enjoy it. SDCC was the highlight of my year until 2000. Good times.
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		<title>by: TChav</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321878</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have been going to SDCC for only a few years now (since 2002) and even during that time the swell (and smell) of humanity has been evident. I attend with family members tying it in with a yearly vacation. We have stopped attending on Saturday and Sunday due to the crush. Thus I missed my cherished Jack Kirby Tribute Panel which was moved to a Sunday.  Though now I doubt I would have made it in due to the presence of Mr. Gaiman.  
This year I had the least fun and enjoyment ever.  Waiting in line Thursday morning for nearly two hours in the sun did me in.  I was beat even before stepping in the hall. I have to imagine that the walk up line was faster than pre-registration. Is anything going to be done about this wait and the line which wrapped around the convention center? Is this just the new reality of SDCC?  I really want to enjoy this once a year spectacle and not plan on simply surviving an ordeal just to see and possibly meet some favorite creators.
I only whine hear because the con people will respond to The Beat but could give a damn what some nob thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been going to SDCC for only a few years now (since 2002) and even during that time the swell (and smell) of humanity has been evident. I attend with family members tying it in with a yearly vacation. We have stopped attending on Saturday and Sunday due to the crush. Thus I missed my cherished Jack Kirby Tribute Panel which was moved to a Sunday.  Though now I doubt I would have made it in due to the presence of Mr. Gaiman.<br />
This year I had the least fun and enjoyment ever.  Waiting in line Thursday morning for nearly two hours in the sun did me in.  I was beat even before stepping in the hall. I have to imagine that the walk up line was faster than pre-registration. Is anything going to be done about this wait and the line which wrapped around the convention center? Is this just the new reality of SDCC?  I really want to enjoy this once a year spectacle and not plan on simply surviving an ordeal just to see and possibly meet some favorite creators.<br />
I only whine hear because the con people will respond to The Beat but could give a damn what some nob thinks.
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		<title>by: Bill Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321871</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks Kelson and Neeb!</description>
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		<title>by: ericshanower</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321266</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I remember that Roberta Gregory and Lee Marrs were at SDCC in 1987, as well.</description>
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		<title>by: Jackie Estrada</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321258</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lea: 

Other female pros at the 1986 CCI included special guests Lynn Varley and Dale Messick. Also there were Carol Kalish, Karen Berger, Lee Marrs, Lynda Barry, Deni Loubert, Kate Worley, Diana Schutz, cat yronwode, Wendy Lee, and Joyce Brabner, just to mention a few. I'm sure I could remember a lot more if I dug into my photo files for that year. It may well be that Mary Wilshire, Lois Buholis, Louise Simonson, Christy Marx,  Jan Duursema, and other female pros who regularly attended Comic-Con were there that year as well.

Jackie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lea: </p>
<p>Other female pros at the 1986 CCI included special guests Lynn Varley and Dale Messick. Also there were Carol Kalish, Karen Berger, Lee Marrs, Lynda Barry, Deni Loubert, Kate Worley, Diana Schutz, cat yronwode, Wendy Lee, and Joyce Brabner, just to mention a few. I&#8217;m sure I could remember a lot more if I dug into my photo files for that year. It may well be that Mary Wilshire, Lois Buholis, Louise Simonson, Christy Marx,  Jan Duursema, and other female pros who regularly attended Comic-Con were there that year as well.</p>
<p>Jackie
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		<title>by: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-321162</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Since I've never been to SDCC, this makes me not want to go.  First off, I've got no friends that would want to go with me so I'd have to go it alone (which I was recently informed one cannot do).  Second, I'd have to plan it out probably 11 months in advance in terms of taking off work, getting a hotel room, etc.   Third, it would cost an unbelievable amount when you look at taking off a week from work, traveling 2500 miles and then all the associated expenses of actually being at the con for several days.  

Why would I spend all of that to go to something that sounds (to me personally) utterly horrible?  Well, I know the answer to that:  perhaps my only chance in life to meet some of the artists that I admire the most.  I'm not one of those guys that gets a sketch from every artist and then puts them on eBay, rather I would pay/sacrifice almost any amount to have original artwork hanging on my wall from people like Aragones, or Sakai, or Smith, or Lee.  That's what would make it worth it.  

However, the rest of it?  Forget it.  I don't give a shit about whatever the Sci Fi Channel is pushing, for example.  I couldn't imagine wanting to go to one of these panels, let alone waiting in line for one.  I realize that's not everybody's feeling, but it's certainly mine on the issue.  I went to DragonCon years and years ago when I was about 10.  My brother took me to a Marvel panel and I don't even remember who was there, but they played games and shit.  They had a contest to mimic Galactus and see how many planets (represented by oversized marshmellows) one could eat (by fitting them in your mouth at the same time).  There was a creators versus fans tug of war.  Some game where we crawled along the floor between people's legs (and there was much debate about who would get to crawl between the girl dressed up like Elektra was going to be).  Stuff like that.  I remember I won an autographed Jim Lee issue of Ghost Rider that I still treasure to this day.  To me, that was what a panel should be:  interaction.  If they're just gonna talk at a table, no thanks.  I'll read the summary on Newsarama or watch the footage on YouTube if I'm REALLY interested (like the Image reunion panel).  So why the fuck would I wait any amount of time, let alone 3 or 4 goddamned hours, to get into one of these things???

Why would I want to fight the sweaty/smelly herds?  Why would I want to dodge the punishing gauntlet of things I don't care about?  I know that there are many many more people that do care about those things, enjoy that stuff, and so forth, but for me?  Not worth it.  I'll wait for my first time in about 7 years when the studios have left the scene (don't lie, you all know it's gonna happen!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;ve never been to SDCC, this makes me not want to go.  First off, I&#8217;ve got no friends that would want to go with me so I&#8217;d have to go it alone (which I was recently informed one cannot do).  Second, I&#8217;d have to plan it out probably 11 months in advance in terms of taking off work, getting a hotel room, etc.   Third, it would cost an unbelievable amount when you look at taking off a week from work, traveling 2500 miles and then all the associated expenses of actually being at the con for several days.  </p>
<p>Why would I spend all of that to go to something that sounds (to me personally) utterly horrible?  Well, I know the answer to that:  perhaps my only chance in life to meet some of the artists that I admire the most.  I&#8217;m not one of those guys that gets a sketch from every artist and then puts them on eBay, rather I would pay/sacrifice almost any amount to have original artwork hanging on my wall from people like Aragones, or Sakai, or Smith, or Lee.  That&#8217;s what would make it worth it.  </p>
<p>However, the rest of it?  Forget it.  I don&#8217;t give a shit about whatever the Sci Fi Channel is pushing, for example.  I couldn&#8217;t imagine wanting to go to one of these panels, let alone waiting in line for one.  I realize that&#8217;s not everybody&#8217;s feeling, but it&#8217;s certainly mine on the issue.  I went to DragonCon years and years ago when I was about 10.  My brother took me to a Marvel panel and I don&#8217;t even remember who was there, but they played games and shit.  They had a contest to mimic Galactus and see how many planets (represented by oversized marshmellows) one could eat (by fitting them in your mouth at the same time).  There was a creators versus fans tug of war.  Some game where we crawled along the floor between people&#8217;s legs (and there was much debate about who would get to crawl between the girl dressed up like Elektra was going to be).  Stuff like that.  I remember I won an autographed Jim Lee issue of Ghost Rider that I still treasure to this day.  To me, that was what a panel should be:  interaction.  If they&#8217;re just gonna talk at a table, no thanks.  I&#8217;ll read the summary on Newsarama or watch the footage on YouTube if I&#8217;m REALLY interested (like the Image reunion panel).  So why the fuck would I wait any amount of time, let alone 3 or 4 goddamned hours, to get into one of these things???</p>
<p>Why would I want to fight the sweaty/smelly herds?  Why would I want to dodge the punishing gauntlet of things I don&#8217;t care about?  I know that there are many many more people that do care about those things, enjoy that stuff, and so forth, but for me?  Not worth it.  I&#8217;ll wait for my first time in about 7 years when the studios have left the scene (don&#8217;t lie, you all know it&#8217;s gonna happen!).
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		<title>by: neeb</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320989</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>http://images.comicbookresources.com/cons/cci2007/photos/pinguino/part5/IMG_5920.jpg

Same girl as the LA Times, but this is a better picture.</description>
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<p>Same girl as the LA Times, but this is a better picture.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320942</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jackie, I stand corrected.

I'd still love to hear from or about any reporters locked out of panels in their specific area of coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie, I stand corrected.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still love to hear from or about any reporters locked out of panels in their specific area of coverage.
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320881</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, Steve!

I'd edit my previous, but, obviously I can't!</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d edit my previous, but, obviously I can&#8217;t!
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		<title>by: Steve Leialoha</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320562</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trina's first SDCon was in 1977.  George DiCaprio was a regular at those early cons, also.  I seem to remember him dragging his kid along at least once.  At one of those (early 80's?) he mentioned that young Leonardo had been bitten by the acting bug and had started to audition for commercials.  Worked out well for him.
-Steve Leialoha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trina&#8217;s first SDCon was in 1977.  George DiCaprio was a regular at those early cons, also.  I seem to remember him dragging his kid along at least once.  At one of those (early 80&#8217;s?) he mentioned that young Leonardo had been bitten by the acting bug and had started to audition for commercials.  Worked out well for him.<br />
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		<title>by: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320383</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I saw a young lady take one of those SMALLVILLE bags and make it into a (very) cute (on her) cocktail dress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bill, I didn't see her myself, but I saw a picture of her on an &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/comiccon/2007/07/at-the-end-free.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LA Times blog post&lt;/a&gt;.

I did, however, see a woman who had converted hers into an apron, and a man who was wearing his like a barrel (both &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/29/comics-should-be-good-comic-con-international-day-four/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted here&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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<p>Bill, I didn&#8217;t see her myself, but I saw a picture of her on an <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/comiccon/2007/07/at-the-end-free.html" rel="nofollow">LA Times blog post</a>.</p>
<p>I did, however, see a woman who had converted hers into an apron, and a man who was wearing his like a barrel (both <a href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/29/comics-should-be-good-comic-con-international-day-four/" rel="nofollow">posted here</a>).
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jackie, thank you for that informative answer.

I recall that last year or the year before you had said an actress was never a guest at SDCC/CCI. June Foray is most definitely an actress, as is Majel Barrett. Anyway.

I said, 
&quot;'And by 'woman pro,' I mean 'woman working professionally in the comics business.'&quot;
Which Trina most definitely was in 1975.&quot;

Which means (by my definition, which includes ALL women doing sequential art), that Dale Messick was the first female guest. 
First are tricky things, are they not? 

That's interesting that so many women were there in 1980. I wish I could've seen that. In 1986 (or was it '87?), my first year at the then-SDCC, I could count the female pros, including myself in the number, on much less than two hands.
Jill Thompson, Vicki Wyman, Trina Robbins, Wendy Pini, Heidi MacDonald, and myself. John Byrne's best colorist, Petra Scotese, was there but walking around enjoying herself. If there were any other female pros in that comparatively small room, I sure didn't find 'em, and I was looking.

Interesting that of these seven early adopters, five of us are still in the business. Not bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie, thank you for that informative answer.</p>
<p>I recall that last year or the year before you had said an actress was never a guest at SDCC/CCI. June Foray is most definitely an actress, as is Majel Barrett. Anyway.</p>
<p>I said,<br />
&#8220;&#8216;And by &#8216;woman pro,&#8217; I mean &#8216;woman working professionally in the comics business.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
Which Trina most definitely was in 1975.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means (by my definition, which includes ALL women doing sequential art), that Dale Messick was the first female guest.<br />
First are tricky things, are they not? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting that so many women were there in 1980. I wish I could&#8217;ve seen that. In 1986 (or was it &#8216;87?), my first year at the then-SDCC, I could count the female pros, including myself in the number, on much less than two hands.<br />
Jill Thompson, Vicki Wyman, Trina Robbins, Wendy Pini, Heidi MacDonald, and myself. John Byrne&#8217;s best colorist, Petra Scotese, was there but walking around enjoying herself. If there were any other female pros in that comparatively small room, I sure didn&#8217;t find &#8216;em, and I was looking.</p>
<p>Interesting that of these seven early adopters, five of us are still in the business. Not bad.
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		<title>by: Jackie Estrada</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320157</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A date got left out--it should say &quot;in 1975, Dale Messick . . .&quot;</description>
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		<title>by: Jackie Estrada</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-320154</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Tom:
Inkpot Award winners DO receive lifetime memberships in Comic-Con for themselves and their immediate families. They are given what is called a Gold Card. They don't have to physically have their card with them to get into the Con free; they just need to remind the pro registrar that they are Gold Card holders.

Lea:
In the early years of Comic-Con most of the female guests came from the sf/fantasy field: Leigh Brackett (1971), Katherine Kurtz  (1972),  D. C. Fontana (1973), Majel Barrett (1974), along with perenniel guest June Foray (the first woman to receive an Inkpot). In Dale Messick and Maggie Thompson were guests. Trina was the first female comic book creator to be a guest, in 1977. The next year Shary Fleniken and Wendy Pini were guests, but numerous female underground artists were there, including Trina, Melinda Gebbie, and Lee Marrs, as part of an underground comix theme, and the program book (which I edited) had an article about women in &quot;comix.&quot;  The year 1980 was also big for female cartoonists, since nearly all the National Lampoon comics creators were on hand;  including Flenniken and M. K. Brown. Wendy Pini got her Inkpot that year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:<br />
Inkpot Award winners DO receive lifetime memberships in Comic-Con for themselves and their immediate families. They are given what is called a Gold Card. They don&#8217;t have to physically have their card with them to get into the Con free; they just need to remind the pro registrar that they are Gold Card holders.</p>
<p>Lea:<br />
In the early years of Comic-Con most of the female guests came from the sf/fantasy field: Leigh Brackett (1971), Katherine Kurtz  (1972),  D. C. Fontana (1973), Majel Barrett (1974), along with perenniel guest June Foray (the first woman to receive an Inkpot). In Dale Messick and Maggie Thompson were guests. Trina was the first female comic book creator to be a guest, in 1977. The next year Shary Fleniken and Wendy Pini were guests, but numerous female underground artists were there, including Trina, Melinda Gebbie, and Lee Marrs, as part of an underground comix theme, and the program book (which I edited) had an article about women in &#8220;comix.&#8221;  The year 1980 was also big for female cartoonists, since nearly all the National Lampoon comics creators were on hand;  including Flenniken and M. K. Brown. Wendy Pini got her Inkpot that year.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>solved or at least mitigated</description>
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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					<description>I wouldn't be surprised if they totally re-do the access thing, both for press and for the audience members with the sit-throughs. Now that they're at capacity, I think it's the big issue, and one that can be solved administratively. I mean, they do know it's there.</description>
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Tom: I wanted to see Brad Bird's panel so so much, but I not only couldn't spare the time (waiting through three or four other panels to attend Bird's), but would I have waited two hours? Even bought tickets? Oh hell yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: I wanted to see Brad Bird&#8217;s panel so so much, but I not only couldn&#8217;t spare the time (waiting through three or four other panels to attend Bird&#8217;s), but would I have waited two hours? Even bought tickets? Oh hell yeah.
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And by &quot;woman pro,&quot; I mean &quot;woman working professionally in the comics business.&quot;
Which Trina most definitely was in 1975.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by &#8220;woman pro,&#8221; I mean &#8220;woman working professionally in the comics business.&#8221;<br />
Which Trina most definitely was in 1975.
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		<title>by: Lea</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Was Trina the first woman pro to start showing up? Is two years in really that far removed from being an original?
Has Trina not done enough for comics, in that she preserved women's history in same and gave me an education and inspiration I could share and teach with others?

Pshaw, say I.

Heidi, reading this makes me gladder than ever I have stayed home for two years. If YOU can't hummingbird around, it's not just big, it's miserably, pointlessly, uselessly big.

Sometimes more is just more.

Lea, 
Hoping she is in the same unsecret opinion class as Trina. Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Trina the first woman pro to start showing up? Is two years in really that far removed from being an original?<br />
Has Trina not done enough for comics, in that she preserved women&#8217;s history in same and gave me an education and inspiration I could share and teach with others?</p>
<p>Pshaw, say I.</p>
<p>Heidi, reading this makes me gladder than ever I have stayed home for two years. If YOU can&#8217;t hummingbird around, it&#8217;s not just big, it&#8217;s miserably, pointlessly, uselessly big.</p>
<p>Sometimes more is just more.</p>
<p>Lea,<br />
Hoping she is in the same unsecret opinion class as Trina. Word.
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There actually was a period when there was a trade show before the con -- the &quot;trade&quot;, I should note, being comics retailers, with publishers set up to display to them.

I've seen calls elsewhere for Wednesday to be noon to six, rather than later. Barring the rebirth of a trade show and making it just about mandatory for exhibitiors, this would be problematic for smaller exhibitors, many of whom drive or fly in on Wednesday and need those hours to get set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There actually was a period when there was a trade show before the con &#8212; the &#8220;trade&#8221;, I should note, being comics retailers, with publishers set up to display to them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen calls elsewhere for Wednesday to be noon to six, rather than later. Barring the rebirth of a trade show and making it just about mandatory for exhibitiors, this would be problematic for smaller exhibitors, many of whom drive or fly in on Wednesday and need those hours to get set up.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am looking forward to the final episode and how you work in that one paragraph I wrote into that one, too.

Have there been any complaints about access from reporters that are actually covering the events they had problems getting into? I mean, I would totally love a special pass into the Hollywood panels and I would abuse it like crazy, but it seems sort of odd anyone from PW would complain about not getting on-site access into panels about things not, you know, published.

Not to mention that now I feel stupid for waiting to get into Darwyn Cooke's panel and not minding.

That's a serious question, by the way. I'm working on a piece and I'd love a link to someone fitting those criteria that had access problems.

A lifetime pass for Inkpotters is a fantastic idea, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to the final episode and how you work in that one paragraph I wrote into that one, too.</p>
<p>Have there been any complaints about access from reporters that are actually covering the events they had problems getting into? I mean, I would totally love a special pass into the Hollywood panels and I would abuse it like crazy, but it seems sort of odd anyone from PW would complain about not getting on-site access into panels about things not, you know, published.</p>
<p>Not to mention that now I feel stupid for waiting to get into Darwyn Cooke&#8217;s panel and not minding.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a serious question, by the way. I&#8217;m working on a piece and I&#8217;d love a link to someone fitting those criteria that had access problems.</p>
<p>A lifetime pass for Inkpotters is a fantastic idea, btw.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;I&gt;why not make it a seven day event? Monday and Tuesday for trade, Wednesday 12 to 6 for previews, thursday to sunday for everyone.&lt;/I&gt;

* Prohibitively expensive (and simply exhausting) for exhibitors. Many merchants would not be interested in exhibiting during trade-only days (no customers, no sales) and the infrastructure within a convention center does not exist to let booths be set up after a show has started (no freight on the floors once the carpets get rolled out)
* Convention centers need 1-2 days on either end of an event to clear out the old event and set up for the following weekend's show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><I>why not make it a seven day event? Monday and Tuesday for trade, Wednesday 12 to 6 for previews, thursday to sunday for everyone.</I></p>
<p>* Prohibitively expensive (and simply exhausting) for exhibitors. Many merchants would not be interested in exhibiting during trade-only days (no customers, no sales) and the infrastructure within a convention center does not exist to let booths be set up after a show has started (no freight on the floors once the carpets get rolled out)<br />
* Convention centers need 1-2 days on either end of an event to clear out the old event and set up for the following weekend&#8217;s show.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's a small complaint about the SDCC badges: the type face for your name on a SDCC is tiny--maybe 14 points, although I haven't measured it. BEA badges blow your name up to enormous sizes so you can actually tell who you are talking to without squinting at their chest. How about larger type face on the badges, Comic-Con? Blow those names up to 64 points to help out those of us with near-sightedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a small complaint about the SDCC badges: the type face for your name on a SDCC is tiny&#8211;maybe 14 points, although I haven&#8217;t measured it. BEA badges blow your name up to enormous sizes so you can actually tell who you are talking to without squinting at their chest. How about larger type face on the badges, Comic-Con? Blow those names up to 64 points to help out those of us with near-sightedness.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>After this year's Comic Con, I will not do it again.  I can get a better view of the event from Youtube and The Beat than I could by trying to go to the panels myself.  I did get to see the Paramount panel.  I think they should make the event only for those who have four day passes.  You would reduce the number of people who would attend.  I bet at least half of the attendance is from those who are there one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After this year&#8217;s Comic Con, I will not do it again.  I can get a better view of the event from Youtube and The Beat than I could by trying to go to the panels myself.  I did get to see the Paramount panel.  I think they should make the event only for those who have four day passes.  You would reduce the number of people who would attend.  I bet at least half of the attendance is from those who are there one day.
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		<title>by: Bruce</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I saw the girl in the Smallville schwag-dress on Sunday.  Very, very cool.  She told a friend of mine she got the bag on Preview night and worked on it until it was ready on Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the girl in the Smallville schwag-dress on Sunday.  Very, very cool.  She told a friend of mine she got the bag on Preview night and worked on it until it was ready on Sunday.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>New Word: clusterphobic : being afraid of being pressed into a tight crowd.
  I know the New York Comic Con once sold VIP tickets for fans.  Perhaps something similar could be offered for journalists (with proper credentials), industry veterans, and the occasional terminally ill child. 
The press room? Get the Motion Picture Association Of America to sponsor it. Studios can assign staff so that reporters can avoid the main hall chaos. 
And why not make it a seven day event? Monday and Tuesday for trade, Wednesday 12 to 6 for previews, thursday to sunday for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Word: clusterphobic : being afraid of being pressed into a tight crowd.<br />
  I know the New York Comic Con once sold VIP tickets for fans.  Perhaps something similar could be offered for journalists (with proper credentials), industry veterans, and the occasional terminally ill child.<br />
The press room? Get the Motion Picture Association Of America to sponsor it. Studios can assign staff so that reporters can avoid the main hall chaos.<br />
And why not make it a seven day event? Monday and Tuesday for trade, Wednesday 12 to 6 for previews, thursday to sunday for everyone.
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		<title>by: austinspace</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I had the most fun I've ever had at the Con. I felt no pressure to see everything or buy everything. I took pictures ( a paying gig) all Con long, and just had absolute fun photographing Princess Leia(s), Mario, Big Boy, Supergirl and anyone else I came upon. 

Yes it was insane, and I didn't get into the Heroes panel, but really, is that so important? I took the two hours sitting outside that ballroom to relax, take photos and destress before going back to the madness.

I can't wait 'til next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the most fun I&#8217;ve ever had at the Con. I felt no pressure to see everything or buy everything. I took pictures ( a paying gig) all Con long, and just had absolute fun photographing Princess Leia(s), Mario, Big Boy, Supergirl and anyone else I came upon. </p>
<p>Yes it was insane, and I didn&#8217;t get into the Heroes panel, but really, is that so important? I took the two hours sitting outside that ballroom to relax, take photos and destress before going back to the madness.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait &#8217;til next year.
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		<title>by: University Update - Kate Beckinsale - SD07: Showdown at Hall H</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/08/sd07-showdown-at-hall-h/#comment-319809</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Zac Efron                Contact the Webmaster     Link to Article           kate beckinsale SD07: Showdown at Hall H &amp;#187;  Posted at THE BEAT  on Wednesday, August 08, 2007  This article contains copywritten material. Please click on the &amp;#34;View Original Article&amp;#34; link below to view the article on the author's site.  View Original Article &amp;#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The more Con travelogues I read, the more I'm glad I've eschewed it for smaller cons like Charlotte or Baltimore in recent years.

I saw on someone's FLKR page last week someone being stuffed into a Smallville bag and carried around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more Con travelogues I read, the more I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;ve eschewed it for smaller cons like Charlotte or Baltimore in recent years.</p>
<p>I saw on someone&#8217;s FLKR page last week someone being stuffed into a Smallville bag and carried around.
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