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		<title>by: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-344223</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm mixed about huge names in Artist Alley- sure it brings crowds but nobody wants a line of somebody else's fans blocking access to their table. The 2 Artist Alley sections thing has gotten old though because it screws whoever ends up in the 2nd smaller section that doesn't see half the traffic of the main section.- maybe Wizard should refund people half their money for sticking them in &quot;no fans land.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mixed about huge names in Artist Alley- sure it brings crowds but nobody wants a line of somebody else&#8217;s fans blocking access to their table. The 2 Artist Alley sections thing has gotten old though because it screws whoever ends up in the 2nd smaller section that doesn&#8217;t see half the traffic of the main section.- maybe Wizard should refund people half their money for sticking them in &#8220;no fans land.&#8221;
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		<title>by: New Rage Order</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-339757</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Originally spotted over at The Beat: [...]</description>
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		<title>by: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-339339</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Moving the show to Navy Pier would be a bit of a logistical nightmare. As beautiful as it is, it's a horrid tourist trap. The food and drinks in the area are ridiculously expensive, the crowds in summer are ridiculous and the accessibility leaves alot to be desired. For instance parking is anywhere from 18-30 bucks at the pier. The public transit access is so-so, the best way to get there is by cab or walking. And it's a bit of a hike from nearby hotels to the pier.

I lived out by rosemont and completely agree, it's a wasteland and does nothing to attract people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving the show to Navy Pier would be a bit of a logistical nightmare. As beautiful as it is, it&#8217;s a horrid tourist trap. The food and drinks in the area are ridiculously expensive, the crowds in summer are ridiculous and the accessibility leaves alot to be desired. For instance parking is anywhere from 18-30 bucks at the pier. The public transit access is so-so, the best way to get there is by cab or walking. And it&#8217;s a bit of a hike from nearby hotels to the pier.</p>
<p>I lived out by rosemont and completely agree, it&#8217;s a wasteland and does nothing to attract people.
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		<title>by: Jason Green</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-339330</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This was my 9th WW: Chicago, and while it was far from the best time I've had at one, it was a vast improvement over last year, especially in three areas:

1. A measurably larger crowd, especially in Artist's Alley. Last year, I had a table in the separate side area of Artist's Alley, and there was less than no foot traffic. The main Artist's Alley area had almost two full rows of empty tables, and the parts that did have artists would see isolated heavy crowds (particularly the Image back corner) but it was by and large pretty empty, too.

This year, Artist's Alley was much more crowded, both with artists and with attendees, up and down virtually every aisle. I think this was helped by the presence of guys who would normally be at company booths signing in AA instead (J. Scott Campbell, Arthur Suydam, and especially David Finch, whose line went halfway down the dealer's area on Friday morning).


2. A LOT more young kids. There were constantly members of the under-12 set underfoot, and most of them seemed excited and eager to be there. (I saw a brother and sister dressed as Captain America and Wonder Woman, the WW doing Linda Carter's patented spinning move....it was &lt;i&gt;adorable&lt;/i&gt;.) This also caused one of the more unfortunate moments of the weekend at the Mondo Marvel panel, though, when Joe Quesada was talking about Spider-Man having sex and downloading porn as a mom and dad dragged their 5 or 6 year old son out of the room. Good goin', Joe!

3. People actually showered! Maybe I was just congested or something, but I didn't end up humming &quot;That Smell&quot; by Lynyrd Skynyrd more than a couple times all weekend.

After an absolutely horrible year last year, I thought this year's Wizard World was a vast improvement, and I hope the momentum continues into the earlier summer date next year. I understand people's hatred of Wizard, but remember for those of us who live in the Midwest (St. Louis, here), it's the only game in town. I'd rather encourage continued improvement of a con I can drive to than hope for its replacement by a con in NYC that's three times as far away and well out of my price range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my 9th WW: Chicago, and while it was far from the best time I&#8217;ve had at one, it was a vast improvement over last year, especially in three areas:</p>
<p>1. A measurably larger crowd, especially in Artist&#8217;s Alley. Last year, I had a table in the separate side area of Artist&#8217;s Alley, and there was less than no foot traffic. The main Artist&#8217;s Alley area had almost two full rows of empty tables, and the parts that did have artists would see isolated heavy crowds (particularly the Image back corner) but it was by and large pretty empty, too.</p>
<p>This year, Artist&#8217;s Alley was much more crowded, both with artists and with attendees, up and down virtually every aisle. I think this was helped by the presence of guys who would normally be at company booths signing in AA instead (J. Scott Campbell, Arthur Suydam, and especially David Finch, whose line went halfway down the dealer&#8217;s area on Friday morning).</p>
<p>2. A LOT more young kids. There were constantly members of the under-12 set underfoot, and most of them seemed excited and eager to be there. (I saw a brother and sister dressed as Captain America and Wonder Woman, the WW doing Linda Carter&#8217;s patented spinning move&#8230;.it was <i>adorable</i>.) This also caused one of the more unfortunate moments of the weekend at the Mondo Marvel panel, though, when Joe Quesada was talking about Spider-Man having sex and downloading porn as a mom and dad dragged their 5 or 6 year old son out of the room. Good goin&#8217;, Joe!</p>
<p>3. People actually showered! Maybe I was just congested or something, but I didn&#8217;t end up humming &#8220;That Smell&#8221; by Lynyrd Skynyrd more than a couple times all weekend.</p>
<p>After an absolutely horrible year last year, I thought this year&#8217;s Wizard World was a vast improvement, and I hope the momentum continues into the earlier summer date next year. I understand people&#8217;s hatred of Wizard, but remember for those of us who live in the Midwest (St. Louis, here), it&#8217;s the only game in town. I&#8217;d rather encourage continued improvement of a con I can drive to than hope for its replacement by a con in NYC that&#8217;s three times as far away and well out of my price range.
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		<title>by: Ray Cornwall</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-339032</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wizard World Philly was also a discount-a-thon, with plenty of $5 boxes of Marvel/DC graphic novels and lots of cheap action figures. In many ways, Wizard World Philly felt like a gigantic nerd farmer's market. 

I'm curious to know if there was any substantial manga presence at Chicago. There was none in Philly, which was very disappointing. A manga retailer would have cleaned up in Philly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wizard World Philly was also a discount-a-thon, with plenty of $5 boxes of Marvel/DC graphic novels and lots of cheap action figures. In many ways, Wizard World Philly felt like a gigantic nerd farmer&#8217;s market. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to know if there was any substantial manga presence at Chicago. There was none in Philly, which was very disappointing. A manga retailer would have cleaned up in Philly.
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		<title>by: Chicago Con Worth It? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-338976</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Update: Heidi has links to additional reactions, including the interesting observation that fans reacted badly to Joe Quesada plugging the idea of breaking up Spider-Man and Mary Jane, and convention coverage didn&amp;#8217;t capture the extent of that rejection.    Related Posts: Wizard Convention Schedule &amp;#167; Wizard Panics &amp;#167; Links on the Chicago Con &amp;#167; Wizard World Chicago 2006: Peter, Paul, and Bill &amp;#167; Wizard World Wrapup [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Update: Heidi has links to additional reactions, including the interesting observation that fans reacted badly to Joe Quesada plugging the idea of breaking up Spider-Man and Mary Jane, and convention coverage didn&#8217;t capture the extent of that rejection.    Related Posts: Wizard Convention Schedule &sect; Wizard Panics &sect; Links on the Chicago Con &sect; Wizard World Chicago 2006: Peter, Paul, and Bill &sect; Wizard World Wrapup [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Paul D. Storrie</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/08/17/yet-more-chicago-scuttlebutt/#comment-338930</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Even if it hasn't reached the size requirement yet, NY Comic-Con has rapidly won the hearts and minds of the professional crowd.  It's a convention where you can actually get some business done along with the socializing.  

The general consensus seems to be that San Diego is almost too big to do meetings and certainly too big for impromptu connections to lead into much of anything besides deciding to follow up after the show.  And Chicago has become less and less a &quot;must attend&quot; event.  There are fewer publishers there and fewer editors from the publishers that are. 

For myself, I've been going to the con in Chicago since well before I was a published writer and well before it became Wizard World.  I'd hate to give up on a longstanding tradition.  But I'm seeing that the schedule for next year is Philly May 30-June 1 and Chicago June 26-29.  I mean, they're practically competing with themselves!  They're certainly stepping on Heroes Con's toes again.  

There's a good chance that I'll just skip Wizard World Chicago next year and head down to Heroes for the first time.  I've heard great things about the show and to my knowledge they've never scheduled a show right on top of someone else's.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it hasn&#8217;t reached the size requirement yet, NY Comic-Con has rapidly won the hearts and minds of the professional crowd.  It&#8217;s a convention where you can actually get some business done along with the socializing.  </p>
<p>The general consensus seems to be that San Diego is almost too big to do meetings and certainly too big for impromptu connections to lead into much of anything besides deciding to follow up after the show.  And Chicago has become less and less a &#8220;must attend&#8221; event.  There are fewer publishers there and fewer editors from the publishers that are. </p>
<p>For myself, I&#8217;ve been going to the con in Chicago since well before I was a published writer and well before it became Wizard World.  I&#8217;d hate to give up on a longstanding tradition.  But I&#8217;m seeing that the schedule for next year is Philly May 30-June 1 and Chicago June 26-29.  I mean, they&#8217;re practically competing with themselves!  They&#8217;re certainly stepping on Heroes Con&#8217;s toes again.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a good chance that I&#8217;ll just skip Wizard World Chicago next year and head down to Heroes for the first time.  I&#8217;ve heard great things about the show and to my knowledge they&#8217;ve never scheduled a show right on top of someone else&#8217;s.</p>
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