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	<title>Comments on: The righteous anger of Eric Reynolds</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/</link>
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		<title>by: Rethinking the Box: Numbers [1] &#124; Tokyovation</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-3158813</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] The last time this sort of thing made the rounds, folks came down on both sides with anecdotal stories about comic shops both good and bad. And it was unfair of me to generalize. Let me just say that my comments are intended to spur those stuck in the 50s (or the speculator&amp;#8217;s boom of the 90s) to come to terms with present-day realities. If there aren&amp;#8217;t any comic shops like that left, well, that&amp;#8217;s a good thing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The last time this sort of thing made the rounds, folks came down on both sides with anecdotal stories about comic shops both good and bad. And it was unfair of me to generalize. Let me just say that my comments are intended to spur those stuck in the 50s (or the speculator&#8217;s boom of the 90s) to come to terms with present-day realities. If there aren&#8217;t any comic shops like that left, well, that&#8217;s a good thing. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: companies give front line employees more power usa today</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-439002</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-439002</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;companies give front line employees more power usa today...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>companies give front line employees more power usa today&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>by: Devlin Thompson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-383345</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-383345</guid>
					<description>What's wrong with tools? Our ability to use tools is the attribute that sets us apart from (most of) the animals. And, speaking personally, my tool has given me many happy hours of entertainment. On the other hand, if you're speaking of &quot;Tool&quot;,the musical act, then &quot;unforgivable&quot; isn't NEARLY strong enough a term of opprobrium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with tools? Our ability to use tools is the attribute that sets us apart from (most of) the animals. And, speaking personally, my tool has given me many happy hours of entertainment. On the other hand, if you&#8217;re speaking of &#8220;Tool&#8221;,the musical act, then &#8220;unforgivable&#8221; isn&#8217;t NEARLY strong enough a term of opprobrium.
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		<title>by: Eric Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382778</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382778</guid>
					<description>It's a good thing I wasn't apologizing to you, then.</description>
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		<title>by: Joe S. Walker</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382556</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382556</guid>
					<description>Since you ask, I think it's unforgivable.</description>
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		<title>by: Michael DeForge</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382100</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-382100</guid>
					<description>Joe, Eric edited out the &quot;tool&quot; remark and apologized for it in this very thread. I'm not sure why you're stuck on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, Eric edited out the &#8220;tool&#8221; remark and apologized for it in this very thread. I&#8217;m not sure why you&#8217;re stuck on it?
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		<title>by: Joe S. Walker</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-381917</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-381917</guid>
					<description>Tom Spurgeon: &quot;Wait, I guess he did suggest that someone did a toolish thing...&quot;

His exact words: &quot;What a fucking tool.&quot;

Can't you read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Spurgeon: &#8220;Wait, I guess he did suggest that someone did a toolish thing&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>His exact words: &#8220;What a fucking tool.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you read?
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		<title>by: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sept. 4, 2007: It&#8217;s Celebrate Spanish Royalty Week!</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-381758</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-381758</guid>
					<description>[...] [Retailing] Fantagraphics&amp;#8217; Eric Reynolds visits a comic-book shop, gets depressed. Assembled funnybook fandom responds with fury in the comments section of Heidi MacDonald&amp;#8217;s blog, while Christopher Butcher offers a few words of reason. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] [Retailing] Fantagraphics&#8217; Eric Reynolds visits a comic-book shop, gets depressed. Assembled funnybook fandom responds with fury in the comments section of Heidi MacDonald&#8217;s blog, while Christopher Butcher offers a few words of reason. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-380024</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-380024</guid>
					<description>As this news item fades into the sunset I want to take a moment to thank you all for a wonderful debate.  :)

Rakarich</description>
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		<title>by: comics212 - never safe for work. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On being a grown-up in the comic-book industry.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379338</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379338</guid>
					<description>[...] This all sounds reasonable, right? I mean, boring maybe, but reasonable. I had a mediocre and disappointing shopping experience, and I left really unhappy. I&amp;#8217;m talking about it here. If that&amp;#8217;s the case, then why, when someone does the same thing within the comics industry and talking about a comic book store, does the freak-parade start-up, ready to defend someone&amp;#8217;s right to run a shitty business? Look at some this response in particular: &amp;#8220;What snobbery!!! This guy can rant all he wants, but he has no right to force a retailer to carry anything — or really to be upset about it. If a retailer in any industry only wants to sell certain products, and he can do so successfully, why should he stock something he doesn’t want to sell? The shop is (I assume ) thriving by selling products it wants to sell.&amp;#8221; - Some anonymous coward. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This all sounds reasonable, right? I mean, boring maybe, but reasonable. I had a mediocre and disappointing shopping experience, and I left really unhappy. I&#8217;m talking about it here. If that&#8217;s the case, then why, when someone does the same thing within the comics industry and talking about a comic book store, does the freak-parade start-up, ready to defend someone&#8217;s right to run a shitty business? Look at some this response in particular: &#8220;What snobbery!!! This guy can rant all he wants, but he has no right to force a retailer to carry anything — or really to be upset about it. If a retailer in any industry only wants to sell certain products, and he can do so successfully, why should he stock something he doesn’t want to sell? The shop is (I assume ) thriving by selling products it wants to sell.&#8221; - Some anonymous coward. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Eric Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379217</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379217</guid>
					<description>Thanks, Heidi, but I can take the heat and should have expected it. Ultimately, if my comments lead to a healthy discussion about what makes a good store, then so be it, and I can take the criticism. I opened myself up to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Heidi, but I can take the heat and should have expected it. Ultimately, if my comments lead to a healthy discussion about what makes a good store, then so be it, and I can take the criticism. I opened myself up to it.
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		<title>by: Randy Lander</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379183</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379183</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Many direct market stores are now setting up accounts with trade-book-world wholesaler Baker &amp;#38; Taylor or Ingram to ensure better stock levels, better discount on reorders, and returnability (all plusses over Diamond at least until any changes as rumored by Rich Johnston take place at Diamond).&lt;/i&gt;

I'm not sure if the better discount is always true. B&amp;#38;T does have a better stock (especially on manga) than Diamond, but they actually order some of their stock *from* Diamond, and as a result, their discounts are usually lower even on indie books when it comes to reorders. Unless you're a smaller store, you're likely to take a discount hit on anything you order from B&amp;#38;T. It's relatively small, but it's there and it does add up. 

Which isn't to say I don't order from B&amp;#38;T every week, in fact I do, but it's not all wine and roses there either. Granted, there is some returnability, but it's not as easy as &quot;OK, round up whatever we didn't sell and decide we don't want and send it back.&quot; It's another complicated task in an already crowded workday for most retailers.

&lt;i&gt;Let me ask another question… Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post? Did he have to put a link to the store’s website? Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across? Once again, bad form. This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.&lt;/i&gt;

For my part, if Mr. Reynolds had been in my store and had this bad an experience (and I don't believe he would, but just saying if he did) I think I'd want to be named by name. At worst, it would allow me to know to defend myself and my conduct, at best, it gives me a lesson that allows me to improve my store's service.

But then, I've never been a fan of the &quot;Somebody in this room did something bad, so I'm going to tell you all not to do it&quot; type of thing. It's OK if everyone has done it at some point, and you're wanting to make a general point, but if you want to tell one person to stop doing something, tell that person. Otherwise they're going to assume you're not talking about them. And worse, folks who didn't do anything wrong are going to worry and wonder if they screwed up, when in fact they've been doing just fine. 

I know if I read someone's blistering account of a bad experience in an &quot;Austin area store&quot; I'd be paranoid that it was mine until I found out otherwise. I'd rather be called out if I did it, and left out of it if I didn't. Generalizing in order to paint with an even wider brush (as many in the comments do, and Eric Reynolds specifically did not) seems more unfair to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Many direct market stores are now setting up accounts with trade-book-world wholesaler Baker &amp; Taylor or Ingram to ensure better stock levels, better discount on reorders, and returnability (all plusses over Diamond at least until any changes as rumored by Rich Johnston take place at Diamond).</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the better discount is always true. B&amp;T does have a better stock (especially on manga) than Diamond, but they actually order some of their stock *from* Diamond, and as a result, their discounts are usually lower even on indie books when it comes to reorders. Unless you&#8217;re a smaller store, you&#8217;re likely to take a discount hit on anything you order from B&amp;T. It&#8217;s relatively small, but it&#8217;s there and it does add up. </p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say I don&#8217;t order from B&amp;T every week, in fact I do, but it&#8217;s not all wine and roses there either. Granted, there is some returnability, but it&#8217;s not as easy as &#8220;OK, round up whatever we didn&#8217;t sell and decide we don&#8217;t want and send it back.&#8221; It&#8217;s another complicated task in an already crowded workday for most retailers.</p>
<p><i>Let me ask another question… Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post? Did he have to put a link to the store’s website? Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across? Once again, bad form. This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.</i></p>
<p>For my part, if Mr. Reynolds had been in my store and had this bad an experience (and I don&#8217;t believe he would, but just saying if he did) I think I&#8217;d want to be named by name. At worst, it would allow me to know to defend myself and my conduct, at best, it gives me a lesson that allows me to improve my store&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>But then, I&#8217;ve never been a fan of the &#8220;Somebody in this room did something bad, so I&#8217;m going to tell you all not to do it&#8221; type of thing. It&#8217;s OK if everyone has done it at some point, and you&#8217;re wanting to make a general point, but if you want to tell one person to stop doing something, tell that person. Otherwise they&#8217;re going to assume you&#8217;re not talking about them. And worse, folks who didn&#8217;t do anything wrong are going to worry and wonder if they screwed up, when in fact they&#8217;ve been doing just fine. </p>
<p>I know if I read someone&#8217;s blistering account of a bad experience in an &#8220;Austin area store&#8221; I&#8217;d be paranoid that it was mine until I found out otherwise. I&#8217;d rather be called out if I did it, and left out of it if I didn&#8217;t. Generalizing in order to paint with an even wider brush (as many in the comments do, and Eric Reynolds specifically did not) seems more unfair to me.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379148</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To respond to &quot;Rakarich&quot;:

&quot;So with your comments, I am to assume you are saying that 'respected industry member' Reynolds DOES speak for all of FANTAGRAPHICS with his comments?&quot;

No, I said pretty much the opposite of that.

&quot;Let me ask another question… Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post? Did he have to put a link to the store’s website? Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across? Once again, bad form. This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.&quot;

Actually, I respect Eric for naming names. More people should. There's way too much loaded argumentation and dubious example-making in comics discussion for the subject to be taken seriously without specifics. The only thing that would be unfair to the shop owner is if Eric made stuff up, or if he painted all the stores in Spokane for something that struck him about one.

&quot;My I make a suggestion to Mr. Reynolds to pass along to the powers that be. Make your products returnable by LCS owners. I would bet a dollar to a donut that a bunch of LCSs would take more of a gamble on Indy books if they weren’t carrying the load by themselves. FANTAGRAPHICS could forge new ground in the Indy market if the made a bold move like this. WOuldn’t you agree?&quot;

Fantagraphics attempted multiple returnable material efforts while I was there and offers their books on a returnable basis through at least one distributor right now.  

It's more difficult than you might think. Diamond isn't really conducive to facilitating such efforts, which means a lot of stores can't/won't participate. Also, my knowledge of the modern direct market indicates that initiatives such as you describe may not be taken for their face value but are just as frequently strip-mined for advantages specific to that store. 

In other words, it's at least just as much the store culture as it is barriers to selling. You can have the greatest programs in the world, but if a store doesn't want to sell something, it won't. As we've seen from the years of abuse that Marvel and DC have inflicted on store owners, if a store wants to sell something, they will no matter how high the cost.

I'm all for stores selling whatever the heck they want -- I've had a statement saying as much up on my site for about three years now -- but I agree with Eric's sentiment that not offering a wider array of comics at this point in the market's progression could be seen as a sad thing (if someone with Eric's job didn't have that view, I'd fire them!) and that shops should be expected to have a rudimentary knowledge about their industry because of the nature of the market. That's a systemic problem, by the way, not just on the stores.

TJ, I hope you'll take Eric up on his offer. He's not offering just to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to &#8220;Rakarich&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;So with your comments, I am to assume you are saying that &#8216;respected industry member&#8217; Reynolds DOES speak for all of FANTAGRAPHICS with his comments?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I said pretty much the opposite of that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me ask another question… Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post? Did he have to put a link to the store’s website? Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across? Once again, bad form. This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I respect Eric for naming names. More people should. There&#8217;s way too much loaded argumentation and dubious example-making in comics discussion for the subject to be taken seriously without specifics. The only thing that would be unfair to the shop owner is if Eric made stuff up, or if he painted all the stores in Spokane for something that struck him about one.</p>
<p>&#8220;My I make a suggestion to Mr. Reynolds to pass along to the powers that be. Make your products returnable by LCS owners. I would bet a dollar to a donut that a bunch of LCSs would take more of a gamble on Indy books if they weren’t carrying the load by themselves. FANTAGRAPHICS could forge new ground in the Indy market if the made a bold move like this. WOuldn’t you agree?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fantagraphics attempted multiple returnable material efforts while I was there and offers their books on a returnable basis through at least one distributor right now.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s more difficult than you might think. Diamond isn&#8217;t really conducive to facilitating such efforts, which means a lot of stores can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t participate. Also, my knowledge of the modern direct market indicates that initiatives such as you describe may not be taken for their face value but are just as frequently strip-mined for advantages specific to that store. </p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s at least just as much the store culture as it is barriers to selling. You can have the greatest programs in the world, but if a store doesn&#8217;t want to sell something, it won&#8217;t. As we&#8217;ve seen from the years of abuse that Marvel and DC have inflicted on store owners, if a store wants to sell something, they will no matter how high the cost.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for stores selling whatever the heck they want &#8212; I&#8217;ve had a statement saying as much up on my site for about three years now &#8212; but I agree with Eric&#8217;s sentiment that not offering a wider array of comics at this point in the market&#8217;s progression could be seen as a sad thing (if someone with Eric&#8217;s job didn&#8217;t have that view, I&#8217;d fire them!) and that shops should be expected to have a rudimentary knowledge about their industry because of the nature of the market. That&#8217;s a systemic problem, by the way, not just on the stores.</p>
<p>TJ, I hope you&#8217;ll take Eric up on his offer. He&#8217;s not offering just to offer.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379115</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just a note to everyone:

NO ONE PICK ON ERIC REYNOLDS! Pound for pound this guy has done more for comics in the last decade than almost anyone I could name.</description>
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<p>NO ONE PICK ON ERIC REYNOLDS! Pound for pound this guy has done more for comics in the last decade than almost anyone I could name.
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		<title>by: Dagwan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379081</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You folks should come to Tallahassee and take a look at my store.

Lots of diversity of titles and genres (I even carry some Fantagraphics and D&amp;#38;Q along with Top Shelf, Markosia, Avatar, IDW, Oni, Archaia, Antarctic, and many more. That's just the publishers I can see from where I'm sitting), clean, neat, well-organized, well-lit, and I am a special order whore. (I've placed several while reading this blog)

I'll bet there are many stores like mine all over the country, but no one hears about them. It makes for better reading when some store is raked over the coals for some (actual or imagined) slight, and it's not something that is unique to our hobby/ business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You folks should come to Tallahassee and take a look at my store.</p>
<p>Lots of diversity of titles and genres (I even carry some Fantagraphics and D&amp;Q along with Top Shelf, Markosia, Avatar, IDW, Oni, Archaia, Antarctic, and many more. That&#8217;s just the publishers I can see from where I&#8217;m sitting), clean, neat, well-organized, well-lit, and I am a special order whore. (I&#8217;ve placed several while reading this blog)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet there are many stores like mine all over the country, but no one hears about them. It makes for better reading when some store is raked over the coals for some (actual or imagined) slight, and it&#8217;s not something that is unique to our hobby/ business.
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		<title>by: Eric Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379077</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379077</guid>
					<description>Dear TJ, if you wanted to write me directly I would gladly help rectify any mail order problems you've had with Fantagraphics, as I would do for anyone. We take pride in our business. Was this a personal or store order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear TJ, if you wanted to write me directly I would gladly help rectify any mail order problems you&#8217;ve had with Fantagraphics, as I would do for anyone. We take pride in our business. Was this a personal or store order?
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		<title>by: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379040</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379040</guid>
					<description>Alex:

Thanks for the info.  I didn't know that :)

Dirk Deppey:
I know Diamond calls the shots in regards to their catalogue.  I assume your point is Diamond holds all the cards in regards to how this industry prospers more so than any one LCS.  To that point, I am in 100% agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:</p>
<p>Thanks for the info.  I didn&#8217;t know that <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dirk Deppey:<br />
I know Diamond calls the shots in regards to their catalogue.  I assume your point is Diamond holds all the cards in regards to how this industry prospers more so than any one LCS.  To that point, I am in 100% agreement.
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		<title>by: Dirk Deppey</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379027</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rakarich: From my discussions with various publishers, I'm under the impression that the biggest stumbling block toward returnability in the Direct Market isn't a given publisher; it's Diamond, who have reluctantly agreed to facilitate experiments in risk-free orders a handful of times* but have made it abundantly clear that they don't want to deal with the hassle and paperwork involved in returnability as a continuing proposition.

* I'm not including Marvel or DC in this, by the way -- Diamond has no say in how &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; structure their deals with retailers, since the deals they have with Steve Geppi are brokerage deals, not distribution deals. Marvel and DC can do almost whatever they want, and Diamond is basically obligated to go along with it. Non-brokered publishers don't have this luxury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rakarich: From my discussions with various publishers, I&#8217;m under the impression that the biggest stumbling block toward returnability in the Direct Market isn&#8217;t a given publisher; it&#8217;s Diamond, who have reluctantly agreed to facilitate experiments in risk-free orders a handful of times* but have made it abundantly clear that they don&#8217;t want to deal with the hassle and paperwork involved in returnability as a continuing proposition.</p>
<p>* I&#8217;m not including Marvel or DC in this, by the way &#8212; Diamond has no say in how <i>they</i> structure their deals with retailers, since the deals they have with Steve Geppi are brokerage deals, not distribution deals. Marvel and DC can do almost whatever they want, and Diamond is basically obligated to go along with it. Non-brokered publishers don&#8217;t have this luxury.
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		<title>by: TJ</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379025</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eric Reynolds should save some of his righteous anger for his company's own fulfillment department. I know I'm  not alone in being disgusted by the condition I received comics ordered directly from Fantagraphics. Complaints were ignored and I was left paying full price + shipping for damaged comics. I won't ever order direct from Fantagraphics again. Too bad since they actually earn more money from direct sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Reynolds should save some of his righteous anger for his company&#8217;s own fulfillment department. I know I&#8217;m  not alone in being disgusted by the condition I received comics ordered directly from Fantagraphics. Complaints were ignored and I was left paying full price + shipping for damaged comics. I won&#8217;t ever order direct from Fantagraphics again. Too bad since they actually earn more money from direct sales.
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		<title>by: alex</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379016</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Fantagraphics Books ARE returnable, if purchased through Baker and Taylor.

Which many store do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantagraphics Books ARE returnable, if purchased through Baker and Taylor.</p>
<p>Which many store do.
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		<title>by: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379003</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-379003</guid>
					<description>Tom Spurgeon:

So with your comments, I am to assume you are saying that &quot;respected industry member&quot; Reynolds DOES speak for all of FANTAGRAPHICS with his comments?

Let me ask another question... Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post?  Did he have to put a link to the store's website?  Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across?  Once again, bad form.  This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.


My I make a suggestion to Mr. Reynolds to pass along to the powers that be.   Make your products returnable by LCS owners.  I would bet a dollar to a donut that a bunch of LCSs would take more of a gamble on Indy books if they weren't carrying the load by themselves.  FANTAGRAPHICS could forge new ground in the Indy market if the made a bold move like this.  WOuldn't you agree?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Spurgeon:</p>
<p>So with your comments, I am to assume you are saying that &#8220;respected industry member&#8221; Reynolds DOES speak for all of FANTAGRAPHICS with his comments?</p>
<p>Let me ask another question&#8230; Did Mr. Reynolds have to name 4KrazyKatz by name in his post?  Did he have to put a link to the store&#8217;s website?  Could he not be general and say he went to an LCS in the Washington State University area and still get his point across?  Once again, bad form.  This LCS owner is now getting slammed and I believe it is unfair to him.</p>
<p>My I make a suggestion to Mr. Reynolds to pass along to the powers that be.   Make your products returnable by LCS owners.  I would bet a dollar to a donut that a bunch of LCSs would take more of a gamble on Indy books if they weren&#8217;t carrying the load by themselves.  FANTAGRAPHICS could forge new ground in the Indy market if the made a bold move like this.  WOuldn&#8217;t you agree?  <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Nate</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378991</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Not one of the five comic stores in my area carry any decent amount (or any) small press stuff. Not one store carries mini-comics, of any variety. But, I can still get these from neighboring areas comic stores and via the internet. My biggest complaint when going into my local comic stores would be the lack of knowledge about comics/ the business of comics. I don't expect them to know about every underground comic. Every little photocopied mini-comic. That would be insane. But...when they don't know what The Comics Journal is? That's like being a car salesmen and knowing the brand Ford (Wizard), but saying &quot;I've never heard of a Saturn (TCJ) before&quot;. Or being told that they cannot order me a copy of a comic available through Diamond. I call bullshit. While they have the right not to carry Fantagraphics comics/books, they should at least know that they are still in business and publishing titles. Knowledge is always good business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not one of the five comic stores in my area carry any decent amount (or any) small press stuff. Not one store carries mini-comics, of any variety. But, I can still get these from neighboring areas comic stores and via the internet. My biggest complaint when going into my local comic stores would be the lack of knowledge about comics/ the business of comics. I don&#8217;t expect them to know about every underground comic. Every little photocopied mini-comic. That would be insane. But&#8230;when they don&#8217;t know what The Comics Journal is? That&#8217;s like being a car salesmen and knowing the brand Ford (Wizard), but saying &#8220;I&#8217;ve never heard of a Saturn (TCJ) before&#8221;. Or being told that they cannot order me a copy of a comic available through Diamond. I call bullshit. While they have the right not to carry Fantagraphics comics/books, they should at least know that they are still in business and publishing titles. Knowledge is always good business.
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		<title>by: alex</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378894</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378894</guid>
					<description>Clarification:

My little &quot;light a candle' homily was directed at the doom-and-gloom commenters, who seem to pop up in every discussion about comic shops and wax righteous about the failures and the horrors of all comic shops everywhere, often using scurrilous &quot;facts&quot; and anecdotes to support their dire premonitions.

Eric Reynolds is one of the best friends a comic shop can have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification:</p>
<p>My little &#8220;light a candle&#8217; homily was directed at the doom-and-gloom commenters, who seem to pop up in every discussion about comic shops and wax righteous about the failures and the horrors of all comic shops everywhere, often using scurrilous &#8220;facts&#8221; and anecdotes to support their dire premonitions.</p>
<p>Eric Reynolds is one of the best friends a comic shop can have.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378892</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wait, I guess he did suggest that someone did a toolish thing, but he took it back and mentioned how helpful he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, I guess he did suggest that someone did a toolish thing, but he took it back and mentioned how helpful he was.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378852</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378852</guid>
					<description>Is the answer to the tool question &quot;Joe S. Walker&quot;?

I'm not sure what the quotation marks around &quot;personal opinions&quot; in the 8:29 comment are supposed to mean. That's not a direct quote from any of the comments posted here, and to suggest the other use of quotations, which is that somehow what Eric wrote aren't personal opinions, but something else that are not personal opinions, is just weird.

For those of you who are tut-tutting Eric about his business conduct, first of all, most of you need to learn to read more effectively, particularly when it comes to discerning the difference between offering up a opinion in plain English, like Eric did, and suggesting a prescriptive according to comic book message board leaps of logic, as has been done for him.

Second of all, please note that Eric is as respected an industry member in American comic books as exists at any company, period. PERIOD. The most respected person you're aware of that works in comics? As respected, but not more respected, than Eric Reynolds.

Eric was sad a comic shop owner with access to college students didn't have a diverse store, and miffed that he was under-educated as to not know a same-state, perennial top 10 publisher that publishes comics featuring the character named after his store. 

That's all!

He's not predicting failure for the store. He's not suggesting stores blindly devote themselves to Indy-Alt content. He's not suggesting this guy be tried in Nerd Court and be convicted of Not Supporting the Cause. He hasn't suggested anyone is a tool.

That's been done for him.

Eric had a disappointing experience at a store and talked about it on his blog. He works for an employer that allows employees to freely express their opinions on things, and he's earned the right to say any damn thing he wants and to be heard, when he has time between kicking ass at his job and being offered positions at other companies.

Other than maybe the fact that it's Eric saying so, which is worth noting, what he's said is not that big a deal, even if there's a long comment thread of people suggesting meanings that didn't exist, or offering correctives to his behavior that fail to grasp that Eric's been doing all those things for 14 years.

A guy who likes alternative comics had a crummy experience in a comics shop. I'm pretty sure this happened three times somewhere in the world during the time it took me to type this response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the answer to the tool question &#8220;Joe S. Walker&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the quotation marks around &#8220;personal opinions&#8221; in the 8:29 comment are supposed to mean. That&#8217;s not a direct quote from any of the comments posted here, and to suggest the other use of quotations, which is that somehow what Eric wrote aren&#8217;t personal opinions, but something else that are not personal opinions, is just weird.</p>
<p>For those of you who are tut-tutting Eric about his business conduct, first of all, most of you need to learn to read more effectively, particularly when it comes to discerning the difference between offering up a opinion in plain English, like Eric did, and suggesting a prescriptive according to comic book message board leaps of logic, as has been done for him.</p>
<p>Second of all, please note that Eric is as respected an industry member in American comic books as exists at any company, period. PERIOD. The most respected person you&#8217;re aware of that works in comics? As respected, but not more respected, than Eric Reynolds.</p>
<p>Eric was sad a comic shop owner with access to college students didn&#8217;t have a diverse store, and miffed that he was under-educated as to not know a same-state, perennial top 10 publisher that publishes comics featuring the character named after his store. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all!</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not predicting failure for the store. He&#8217;s not suggesting stores blindly devote themselves to Indy-Alt content. He&#8217;s not suggesting this guy be tried in Nerd Court and be convicted of Not Supporting the Cause. He hasn&#8217;t suggested anyone is a tool.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s been done for him.</p>
<p>Eric had a disappointing experience at a store and talked about it on his blog. He works for an employer that allows employees to freely express their opinions on things, and he&#8217;s earned the right to say any damn thing he wants and to be heard, when he has time between kicking ass at his job and being offered positions at other companies.</p>
<p>Other than maybe the fact that it&#8217;s Eric saying so, which is worth noting, what he&#8217;s said is not that big a deal, even if there&#8217;s a long comment thread of people suggesting meanings that didn&#8217;t exist, or offering correctives to his behavior that fail to grasp that Eric&#8217;s been doing all those things for 14 years.</p>
<p>A guy who likes alternative comics had a crummy experience in a comics shop. I&#8217;m pretty sure this happened three times somewhere in the world during the time it took me to type this response.
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		<title>by: Thomas Gerhardt</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378820</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think my most horrible experience with a comic book store (and the first time I thought: oh dear, this is not going to go down well at all with normal people) was when I was studied at the University of Missouri in Columbia. About half a block away from the J-School, there was a store that literally smelled of urine and sweat and was painted in black, and not in a nice gothic kind of way. Over the past few years, in each US or UK city I've been to I have tried to seek out comic book stores, and for the most part, I still am flabbergasted by their seedy porn store interior.

In fact, and I am not in any way or shape linked to them and don't even live in that city anymore, but the way a good comic book store should look like, with lots of teens, both boys and girls coming in, was COM-X in Nuremberg, Germany. Bright. With books of all genres, from the German albums to the US floppies to big walls filled entirely with Manga. And not only that, you could ask the people behind the counter almost anything, and believe you me, I was (and am) a difficult customer. But they knew what to recommend, they had an almost encyclopedic knowledge of pretty much all genres and they could recommend things based on their entertainment potential and not based on &quot;but this is where the Hulk battles everybody, mmmkay?&quot; notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my most horrible experience with a comic book store (and the first time I thought: oh dear, this is not going to go down well at all with normal people) was when I was studied at the University of Missouri in Columbia. About half a block away from the J-School, there was a store that literally smelled of urine and sweat and was painted in black, and not in a nice gothic kind of way. Over the past few years, in each US or UK city I&#8217;ve been to I have tried to seek out comic book stores, and for the most part, I still am flabbergasted by their seedy porn store interior.</p>
<p>In fact, and I am not in any way or shape linked to them and don&#8217;t even live in that city anymore, but the way a good comic book store should look like, with lots of teens, both boys and girls coming in, was COM-X in Nuremberg, Germany. Bright. With books of all genres, from the German albums to the US floppies to big walls filled entirely with Manga. And not only that, you could ask the people behind the counter almost anything, and believe you me, I was (and am) a difficult customer. But they knew what to recommend, they had an almost encyclopedic knowledge of pretty much all genres and they could recommend things based on their entertainment potential and not based on &#8220;but this is where the Hulk battles everybody, mmmkay?&#8221; notion.
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		<title>by: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378743</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The one thing that is overlooked in all this is the fact that these &quot;personal opinions&quot; put on a business website.  Bad form by Mr. Reynolds.  

Posting his experience on a business webpage will be interpreted by the masses as FANTAGRAPHICS opinion, not an individuals voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that is overlooked in all this is the fact that these &#8220;personal opinions&#8221; put on a business website.  Bad form by Mr. Reynolds.  </p>
<p>Posting his experience on a business webpage will be interpreted by the masses as FANTAGRAPHICS opinion, not an individuals voice.
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		<title>by: Joe S. Walker</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/09/01/the-righteous-anger-of-eric-reynolds/#comment-378690</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;This man doesn't know about OUR comics! No wonder his business is doomed!&quot;

Who's the tool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This man doesn&#8217;t know about OUR comics! No wonder his business is doomed!&#8221;</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s the tool?
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		<title>by: Eric Reynolds</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dave, you're right, my only excuse is I was on vacation and didn't have a card or catalog or anything like that with me, and we were only stopping in on the way elsewhere and I didn't wanna subject my wife to a sales call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you&#8217;re right, my only excuse is I was on vacation and didn&#8217;t have a card or catalog or anything like that with me, and we were only stopping in on the way elsewhere and I didn&#8217;t wanna subject my wife to a sales call.
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		<title>by: Bully</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would add to the current discussion that to an informed and savvy bookstore owner, Diamond is no longer the only option for ordering trade books from Fantagraphics (or D+Q, or Marvel, or Dark Horse, or DC). Many direct market stores are now setting up accounts with trade-book-world wholesaler Baker &amp;#38; Taylor or Ingram to ensure better stock levels, better discount on reorders, and returnability (all plusses over Diamond at least until any changes as rumored by Rich Johnston take place at Diamond). 

Diamond is no longer the &lt;I&gt;only&lt;/I&gt; game in town for these books and with an alternate source of stock like B&amp;#38;T or even setting up a separate account with the publisher itself, you no longer are hampered by the fear of taking complete risks on non-returnable books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add to the current discussion that to an informed and savvy bookstore owner, Diamond is no longer the only option for ordering trade books from Fantagraphics (or D+Q, or Marvel, or Dark Horse, or DC). Many direct market stores are now setting up accounts with trade-book-world wholesaler Baker &amp; Taylor or Ingram to ensure better stock levels, better discount on reorders, and returnability (all plusses over Diamond at least until any changes as rumored by Rich Johnston take place at Diamond). </p>
<p>Diamond is no longer the <I>only</I> game in town for these books and with an alternate source of stock like B&amp;T or even setting up a separate account with the publisher itself, you no longer are hampered by the fear of taking complete risks on non-returnable books.
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