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	<title>Comments on: Finke on Wonder Woman film</title>
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		<title>by: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-461730</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Captain: HIS NAME IS THE CAPTAIN!!!

Actually, I've always thought that Nextwave™ would do awesome as a cartoon series, not on its own, but as a sort of &quot;Itchy and Scratchy&quot; in a sitcom that takes place in a comic shop.</description>
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<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve always thought that Nextwave™ would do awesome as a cartoon series, not on its own, but as a sort of &#8220;Itchy and Scratchy&#8221; in a sitcom that takes place in a comic shop.
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		<title>by: kwaku</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-461665</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm still waiting for someone to confirm the original story.</description>
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		<title>by: Owesome</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-461638</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Captain America is Captain America. If only because a movie about The Captain will immediately turn into Nextwave™.

Oh, if only...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain America is Captain America. If only because a movie about The Captain will immediately turn into Nextwave™.</p>
<p>Oh, if only&#8230;
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		<title>by: oscar</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-459855</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How do you name a movie about captain america?</description>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458995</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Superfriends was titled that because of America's image after the Vietnam War. Like Watchmen, the heroes never used that name, but alluded to the Justice League. 
I wonder why DC doesn't print a series based on a young Lois Lane, who, similar to Nancy Drew, rights wrongs as a young journalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superfriends was titled that because of America&#8217;s image after the Vietnam War. Like Watchmen, the heroes never used that name, but alluded to the Justice League.<br />
I wonder why DC doesn&#8217;t print a series based on a young Lois Lane, who, similar to Nancy Drew, rights wrongs as a young journalist.
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		<title>by: mark coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458653</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm sure, that for the all-important international box office, it will be JL and not JLA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure, that for the all-important international box office, it will be JL and not JLA.
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		<title>by: Todd Alcott</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458531</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As someone who worked on the Wonder Woman movie for two years and was up for the Justice League movie, I can attest that it is, indeed, &quot;the JL&quot; and not &quot;the JLA&quot; that WB is making a movie about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who worked on the Wonder Woman movie for two years and was up for the Justice League movie, I can attest that it is, indeed, &#8220;the JL&#8221; and not &#8220;the JLA&#8221; that WB is making a movie about.
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		<title>by: Jimmie Robinson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458457</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I feel very, very sad about this entire state of affairs.
There should be a Wonder Woman film, not a spin-off film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel very, very sad about this entire state of affairs.<br />
There should be a Wonder Woman film, not a spin-off film.
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		<title>by: Kiel Phegley</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458275</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My sister-in-law has never read a comic in her life, but she loves Wonder Woman. She's got Wonder Woman clothes, plates, refrigerator magnets...you name it.

I bought her the above book for her birthday, and she really dug it.

Regardless, I'm not sure that the fact that Warners has lighted on a way to market the character to 20, 30 and 40-somethings as a piece of nostalgiac kitsch means they have any interest in similarly selling it to little girls. They'd be better off starting something manga realted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister-in-law has never read a comic in her life, but she loves Wonder Woman. She&#8217;s got Wonder Woman clothes, plates, refrigerator magnets&#8230;you name it.</p>
<p>I bought her the above book for her birthday, and she really dug it.</p>
<p>Regardless, I&#8217;m not sure that the fact that Warners has lighted on a way to market the character to 20, 30 and 40-somethings as a piece of nostalgiac kitsch means they have any interest in similarly selling it to little girls. They&#8217;d be better off starting something manga realted.
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		<title>by: Tommy Raiko</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458270</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For the record, though apparently out of print in its original edition, the Dini/Ross WONDER WOMAN: SPIRIT OF TRUTH is still available (along with the other Dini/Ross tabloid extravaganzas) in the DC &quot;WORLD'S GREATEST SUPERHEROES&quot; hardcover (http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=3002 )

Awesome stuff, but still not really a children's book, tho'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, though apparently out of print in its original edition, the Dini/Ross WONDER WOMAN: SPIRIT OF TRUTH is still available (along with the other Dini/Ross tabloid extravaganzas) in the DC &#8220;WORLD&#8217;S GREATEST SUPERHEROES&#8221; hardcover (http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=3002 )</p>
<p>Awesome stuff, but still not really a children&#8217;s book, tho&#8217;&#8230;
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		<title>by: Mark Parsons</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458217</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>When my daughter was three, I got a little concerned that all the Disney Princess movies involved mostly passive women, or at least woman who wanted/needed validation via a man's love and attention. Miyazaki proved to be a good girl-power tonic and so did those WW early reader books, which i HIGHLY recommend for 3-6 year olds who cannot yet read. My daughter LOVED the idea of a princess who could shoot arrows and toss around trucks! 

I still think that DC/Time-Warners is missing out by not marketing Wonder Woman/Princess Diana to girls via d2dvd animated movies, books, comics, and TOYS etc.  It'd never touch the Disney Princess juggernaut, but I do think that WW could make a strong standing, with other characters like Big Barda, Huntress (non-bondage outfit), Starfire (G-rated outfit), Hawkgirl and Donna Troy as co-stars. They'd have to avoid straight up superheroics, but I do think that there is a massive market for this kind of line.

I'd bet money (a buck) that the JLA movie never happens, as it might create brand confusion with Nolan's BATMAN and Singer's SUPERMAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my daughter was three, I got a little concerned that all the Disney Princess movies involved mostly passive women, or at least woman who wanted/needed validation via a man&#8217;s love and attention. Miyazaki proved to be a good girl-power tonic and so did those WW early reader books, which i HIGHLY recommend for 3-6 year olds who cannot yet read. My daughter LOVED the idea of a princess who could shoot arrows and toss around trucks! </p>
<p>I still think that DC/Time-Warners is missing out by not marketing Wonder Woman/Princess Diana to girls via d2dvd animated movies, books, comics, and TOYS etc.  It&#8217;d never touch the Disney Princess juggernaut, but I do think that WW could make a strong standing, with other characters like Big Barda, Huntress (non-bondage outfit), Starfire (G-rated outfit), Hawkgirl and Donna Troy as co-stars. They&#8217;d have to avoid straight up superheroics, but I do think that there is a massive market for this kind of line.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet money (a buck) that the JLA movie never happens, as it might create brand confusion with Nolan&#8217;s BATMAN and Singer&#8217;s SUPERMAN.
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		<title>by: Nicholas Sinisi</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458162</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That Alex Ross book about WW was hardly a children's book - SPIRIT OF TRUTH was written by none other than the great Paul Dini, with outstanding art by Ross (who also co-plotted).  Not that there's anything wrong with kids books, of course, but this wasn't one.  No longer in print, sadly.

As far as JL/JLA goes, the highly popular animated series never used the word America in its various incarnations, so &quot;Justice League&quot; has been established amongst the fans for a while now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Alex Ross book about WW was hardly a children&#8217;s book - SPIRIT OF TRUTH was written by none other than the great Paul Dini, with outstanding art by Ross (who also co-plotted).  Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with kids books, of course, but this wasn&#8217;t one.  No longer in print, sadly.</p>
<p>As far as JL/JLA goes, the highly popular animated series never used the word America in its various incarnations, so &#8220;Justice League&#8221; has been established amongst the fans for a while now&#8230;
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458101</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot; ... you cant mamrket a film with the word america in it these days ... &quot;

If it was a good movie, and enough audiences were intrigued by trailers, I'm sure the distributors would make an exception.

Then again, the Justice League travels outside the U.S. -- and beyond earth -- so often, it renders the&quot;America&quot; tag moot, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; &#8230; you cant mamrket a film with the word america in it these days &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>If it was a good movie, and enough audiences were intrigued by trailers, I&#8217;m sure the distributors would make an exception.</p>
<p>Then again, the Justice League travels outside the U.S. &#8212; and beyond earth &#8212; so often, it renders the&#8221;America&#8221; tag moot, anyway.
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		<title>by: Alex::::</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oh and i can't spell :)</description>
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		<title>by: Alex::::</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>JL vs JLA. I am sure they are calling it JL becuase you cant mamrket a film with the word america in it these days to an international distributor. That is why the WBIE JLS game was called Justice League Heros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL vs JLA. I am sure they are calling it JL becuase you cant mamrket a film with the word america in it these days to an international distributor. That is why the WBIE JLS game was called Justice League Heros.
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		<title>by: Tommy Raiko</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Forget about Minx. Ditch the bondage covers and put out a kiddie
graphic novel about how Wonder Woman fights oppression, or gobal
warming or terrorists or whales or something, and for sure parents
would buy it for their little girls, hoping to get in on this popular
“graphic novel” thing. Would the girls read it? Not necessary. The
sale has been made.&quot;

You may be on to something, but just for the record, a few years back, HarperCollins published a few Wonder Woman books through one of their children's book imprints.  IIRC, these were small paperback readers, maybe 32 pages, aimed for younger girls that the group you're talking about. And I don't think that Wonder Woman fought (or saved) the whales in any of 'em, but she did save a rain forest, I think.

(And I don't know that parents necessarily need Wonder Woman comics to get in on the &quot;graphic novel&quot; thing. If parents care enough to care what they're kids are reading, there are always things like BABYMOUSE and DIARY OF A WIMPY KID that're already popular with the childrens...)

Which isn't to say that doing more to embrace Wonder Woman's appeal as a feminine do-gooding icon--especially in the comics/graphic novels themselves--might not be a very good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Forget about Minx. Ditch the bondage covers and put out a kiddie<br />
graphic novel about how Wonder Woman fights oppression, or gobal<br />
warming or terrorists or whales or something, and for sure parents<br />
would buy it for their little girls, hoping to get in on this popular<br />
“graphic novel” thing. Would the girls read it? Not necessary. The<br />
sale has been made.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may be on to something, but just for the record, a few years back, HarperCollins published a few Wonder Woman books through one of their children&#8217;s book imprints.  IIRC, these were small paperback readers, maybe 32 pages, aimed for younger girls that the group you&#8217;re talking about. And I don&#8217;t think that Wonder Woman fought (or saved) the whales in any of &#8216;em, but she did save a rain forest, I think.</p>
<p>(And I don&#8217;t know that parents necessarily need Wonder Woman comics to get in on the &#8220;graphic novel&#8221; thing. If parents care enough to care what they&#8217;re kids are reading, there are always things like BABYMOUSE and DIARY OF A WIMPY KID that&#8217;re already popular with the childrens&#8230;)</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say that doing more to embrace Wonder Woman&#8217;s appeal as a feminine do-gooding icon&#8211;especially in the comics/graphic novels themselves&#8211;might not be a very good idea.
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		<title>by: T Campbell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458024</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eric! leads me to the question, &quot;so why are today's female-hero movies so terrible, then?&quot; Gee, could it have something to do with the way people like Bryan Singer and Sam Raimi are drawing from the last half-century of comic-book superhero material, which actually tended to get MORE clueless about the wimmins with every passing decade?

Urgh, four super-heroes suffices to create a &quot;Justice League?&quot; That is some bargain-basement thinking, right there. I know somebody has to watch the bottom line, but criminy.

And Heidi? All due respect, but just ask the makers of breakfast cereals: being &quot;mother-approved&quot; without being &quot;kid-tested&quot; is NEVER enough to become a commercial success. 

There actually is a book like the one you describe: it's one of those Alex Ross children's books. I dunno how well it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric! leads me to the question, &#8220;so why are today&#8217;s female-hero movies so terrible, then?&#8221; Gee, could it have something to do with the way people like Bryan Singer and Sam Raimi are drawing from the last half-century of comic-book superhero material, which actually tended to get MORE clueless about the wimmins with every passing decade?</p>
<p>Urgh, four super-heroes suffices to create a &#8220;Justice League?&#8221; That is some bargain-basement thinking, right there. I know somebody has to watch the bottom line, but criminy.</p>
<p>And Heidi? All due respect, but just ask the makers of breakfast cereals: being &#8220;mother-approved&#8221; without being &#8220;kid-tested&#8221; is NEVER enough to become a commercial success. </p>
<p>There actually is a book like the one you describe: it&#8217;s one of those Alex Ross children&#8217;s books. I dunno how well it did.
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		<title>by: Eric!</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/10/12/finke-on-wonder-woman-film/#comment-458008</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Not every female hero movie fails:  Tomb Raider, Underworld, Alien(s)  It's not the fact a female is in the lead, they are just bad movies due to script, direction etc.  If it's made well, it'll do well.  There are plenty of male hero movies that failed for that same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not every female hero movie fails:  Tomb Raider, Underworld, Alien(s)  It&#8217;s not the fact a female is in the lead, they are just bad movies due to script, direction etc.  If it&#8217;s made well, it&#8217;ll do well.  There are plenty of male hero movies that failed for that same reason.
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