Comments on: Hold on to your rights http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:47:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: STWALLSKULL » Interesting Links: November 21st, 2007 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-559887 Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:59 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-559887 [...] Hold on to your rights from THE BEAT [...] […] Hold on to your rights from THE BEAT […]

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]]> by: Andy http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-516978 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:09:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-516978 If the producers are worried about bot farms and whatever spiking fake eyeball counts then maybe they should escrow the ad revenue and use the money to form some sort of ASCAP or BMI like group. You can't know how many people are listening to what songs on the jukebox at a given bar at any particular time, so BMI simply charges a flat monthly performance fee to the owner for keeping the box going at all. All that money is pooled and every member performer takes a cut. I don't know the arcane algorithm involved in deciding how much that is but some money is better than none, no? If the producers are worried about bot farms and whatever spiking fake eyeball counts then maybe they should escrow the ad revenue and use the money to form some sort of ASCAP or BMI like group.

You can’t know how many people are listening to what songs on the jukebox at a given bar at any particular time, so BMI simply charges a flat monthly performance fee to the owner for keeping the box going at all. All that money is pooled and every member performer takes a cut. I don’t know the arcane algorithm involved in deciding how much that is but some money is better than none, no?

]]> by: Bill http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-516801 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:01:56 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-516801 The studios are already tracking and have pretty solid numbers on traffic, on how much online views and downloads are increasing, how many viewers watch the entire episode (indicating they like myself don't have a television and watch the one or two shows *cough-Lost* ahem entirely online). You know how you can tell they already have these numbers, despite them claiming they don't? They sell ads. Advertisers, for all of there rampant vileness, aren't known to be terribly stupid, and they are not going to pay for something they can't be provided numbers on. The studios are selling ads. Therefore, they have the numbers. All that, "the technology is too new" crap, is a lie. They're wankers. If anyone is selling strike t-shirts to support the union, like proceeds go to help the striking writers, I'd buy one *hint hint. I mean, come on, it's Slogannin' Time! You're writers. The studios are already tracking and have pretty solid numbers on traffic, on how much online views and downloads are increasing, how many viewers watch the entire episode (indicating they like myself don’t have a television and watch the one or two shows *cough-Lost* ahem entirely online). You know how you can tell they already have these numbers, despite them claiming they don’t?

They sell ads.

Advertisers, for all of there rampant vileness, aren’t known to be terribly stupid, and they are not going to pay for something they can’t be provided numbers on. The studios are selling ads. Therefore, they have the numbers. All that, “the technology is too new” crap, is a lie. They’re wankers.

If anyone is selling strike t-shirts to support the union, like proceeds go to help the striking writers, I’d buy one *hint hint. I mean, come on, it’s Slogannin’ Time! You’re writers.

]]> by: Susie http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515962 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:59:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515962 I'd imagine if new internet entertainment portals like Hulu are successful, then there would be a solid count of per plays. It's not that difficult to count how many plays of "Lost" or "Heroes" there were from the studio sites. Right now, nobody gets paid for those plays at all, but the Studios are making money from forced ads. I’d imagine if new internet entertainment portals like Hulu are successful, then there would be a solid count of per plays. It’s not that difficult to count how many plays of “Lost” or “Heroes” there were from the studio sites. Right now, nobody gets paid for those plays at all, but the Studios are making money from forced ads.

]]> by: markus http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515820 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:54:13 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515820 Anyone know _how_ the writers want to measure "internet use"? They argue convincingly that tying residuals to profit is bad for them since profit can easily be made to disappear through clever accounting. OTOH, tying internet residuals to clicks creates an incentive for (human) bot farms (in third world countries), especially when considering the other groups who also get residuals. (To a total of 20% of rerun fees split between them according to Wikipedia.) Much as I side with writers on this, I don't see how they can "solve" the problem of how money is made on the internet (i.e. not through product for money transactions but through links, merchandising, increased DVD sales). I mean, lots of internet rerun _are_ purely for promotional purposes. Anyone know _how_ the writers want to measure “internet use”? They argue convincingly that tying residuals to profit is bad for them since profit can easily be made to disappear through clever accounting. OTOH, tying internet residuals to clicks creates an incentive for (human) bot farms (in third world countries), especially when considering the other groups who also get residuals. (To a total of 20% of rerun fees split between them according to Wikipedia.)
Much as I side with writers on this, I don’t see how they can “solve” the problem of how money is made on the internet (i.e. not through product for money transactions but through links, merchandising, increased DVD sales). I mean, lots of internet rerun _are_ purely for promotional purposes.

]]> by: jimmy palmiotti http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515598 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:47:03 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/11/09/hold-on-to-your-rights/#comment-515598 the Writers strike video should be played everywhere, even on tv and passed around. I wish there was some ideas that the non union people could do to support them during the strike. anyone? the Writers strike video should be played everywhere, even on tv and passed around. I wish there was some ideas that the non union people could do to support them during the strike. anyone?

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