Comments on: Stars of ‘08: Dash Shaw http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:49:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Brad Curry http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-776351 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:03:25 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-776351 I don't know if anyone (Dash) is reading this anymore, but I'm a huge fan of Mr. Shaw's work. The Dr. Strange preview is actually what put him on the radar for me. It was so much more inventive than most super-hero comics. I wrote a lil' review of Bodyworld so far on White Chapel: http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=750#Item_1 Eagerly looking forward to The Bottomless Belly Button. I don’t know if anyone (Dash) is reading this anymore, but I’m a huge fan of Mr. Shaw’s work. The Dr. Strange preview is actually what put him on the radar for me. It was so much more inventive than most super-hero comics.

I wrote a lil’ review of Bodyworld so far on White Chapel:
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=750#Item_1

Eagerly looking forward to The Bottomless Belly Button.

]]> by: STWALLSKULL » Interesting Links: January 8th, 2008 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689640 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:46:52 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689640 [...] Stars of ‘08: Dash Shaw from THE BEAT [...] […] Stars of ‘08: Dash Shaw from THE BEAT […]

]]> by: Tadea Omo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689638 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:44:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689638 I saw a lot of work equally worth his in college; common. I dont comment upon what I have not read and rarely respond, but loosing my few comments due to others is unfair, I think. While I realise I have not your experience, I would expect the consideration of not grouping all comments together. I don't recall any name-calling in my response, unles not being enlivened by it is such. I saw a lot of work equally worth his in college; common. I dont comment upon what I have not read and rarely respond, but loosing my few comments due to others is unfair, I think. While I realise I have not your experience, I would expect the consideration of not grouping all comments together. I don’t recall any name-calling in my response, unles not being enlivened by it is such.

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689549 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:59:46 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689549 Yes and I'm amazed when a bunch of first time posters suddenly show up to call someone names. The Beat wasn't born yesterday. It is perfectly fine not to like the work of Dash Shaw, and to find his work "marginal and common." I honestly had no idea his work was such a lightning rod to draw so many from the woodwork. I guess we have found the "One More Day" of indie comics fare! Yes and I’m amazed when a bunch of first time posters suddenly show up to call someone names.

The Beat wasn’t born yesterday.

It is perfectly fine not to like the work of Dash Shaw, and to find his work “marginal and common.” I honestly had no idea his work was such a lightning rod to draw so many from the woodwork. I guess we have found the “One More Day” of indie comics fare!

]]> by: Tadea Omo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689506 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:46:30 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-689506 Whatever. I'm amazed at level of sensorship from an "indie supporter". My comments were deleted along with others critical of Dash' previous work. Because I don't share your same sense of wonderment, hero-worship of his marginal and common fare, that makes my opinion less valid? Being out of country means I often get works later than many here. I read here often and rarely comment because I haven't covered previous work; in this case, I finally have some histories and get my comment deleted. Nice commentary on the state of "commentary". Whatever. I’m amazed at level of sensorship from an “indie supporter”. My comments were deleted along with others critical of Dash’ previous work. Because I don’t share your same sense of wonderment, hero-worship of his marginal and common fare, that makes my opinion less valid? Being out of country means I often get works later than many here.
I read here often and rarely comment because I haven’t covered previous work; in this case, I finally have some histories and get my comment deleted. Nice commentary on the state of “commentary”.

]]> by: Eric Reynolds http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-686069 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:25:52 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-686069 NORM BREYFOGLE RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!! NORM BREYFOGLE RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> by: Lawson http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-686014 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:06:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-686014 Let me be ... a moderate troll? Best of luck to anyone pursuing their dreams, etc. But the "indie comix" scene has a reputation for spawning very, very long and self-indulgent works by people with (at best) crude writing and drawing skills. And that's fine, I guess, up to the point where the bad writing and bad art becomes an attempted selling point. "His characters can sometimes barely communicate verbal [sic]," etc. This looks like more of the same. Personally, I'd rather see attention focused on indie comics (or comix or whatever) in which the creators have learned to write and draw well. I think the whole genre would be taken more seriously as a result. That's just me. For what it's worth, I don't get this guy's reference to Dr. Strange. Did he really draw Dr. Strange, the Marvel comic book? Let me be … a moderate troll?

Best of luck to anyone pursuing their dreams, etc.

But the “indie comix” scene has a reputation for spawning very, very long and self-indulgent works by people with (at best) crude writing and drawing skills. And that’s fine, I guess, up to the point where the bad writing and bad art becomes an attempted selling point. “His characters can sometimes barely communicate verbal [sic],” etc. This looks like more of the same.

Personally, I’d rather see attention focused on indie comics (or comix or whatever) in which the creators have learned to write and draw well. I think the whole genre would be taken more seriously as a result. That’s just me.

For what it’s worth, I don’t get this guy’s reference to Dr. Strange. Did he really draw Dr. Strange, the Marvel comic book?

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685988 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:55:22 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685988 Criticism is welcomed. Obvious trolls are not. Just call me Three Billygoats Gruff. Criticism is welcomed. Obvious trolls are not. Just call me Three Billygoats Gruff.

]]> by: Paul Sondersted Jr. http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685890 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:14:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685890 "Mixing themes of botany and anatomy — plant and animal — with a visual approach that uses diagrams, call-outs, text and other non-comics elements, his work looks like nothing else you’ve seen." This sounds like a lazy excuse to avoid making REAL comics to me. Whatever happened to simple skills like being able to DRAW and tell a STORY? Gimmicks are nice, but gimmicks aren't comics. Oh well. I'm sure SOMEBODY will lap this up. “Mixing themes of botany and anatomy — plant and animal — with a visual approach that uses diagrams, call-outs, text and other non-comics elements, his work looks like nothing else you’ve seen.”

This sounds like a lazy excuse to avoid making REAL comics to me. Whatever happened to simple skills like being able to DRAW and tell a STORY? Gimmicks are nice, but gimmicks aren’t comics.

Oh well. I’m sure SOMEBODY will lap this up.

]]> by: Al http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685741 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:21:02 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685741 Fascinating work, I was not aware of it before. Thanks for letting us know about this. Fascinating work, I was not aware of it before. Thanks for letting us know about this.

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685264 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:51:07 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685264 NO MORE TROLLING. NO MORE TROLLING.

]]> by: Dash http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685262 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:49:51 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685262 Lawson sent some hate and then came back to this post two and a half hours later to say more bad things about me. And Gohn Clam spent a while here too. You guys are dedicated. Lawson sent some hate and then came back to this post two and a half hours later to say more bad things about me. And Gohn Clam spent a while here too. You guys are dedicated.

]]> by: Dash http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685259 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:45:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685259 What can I say? I'm no John Byrne. What can I say? I’m no John Byrne.

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685257 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:45:22 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685257 You are now even more of a hero in my eyes. You are now even more of a hero in my eyes.

]]> by: Dash http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685253 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:40:21 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685253 Heidi, Those Dr. Strange pages I did really pissed some people off. That's the history behind this. Heidi,

Those Dr. Strange pages I did really pissed some people off. That’s the history behind this.

]]> by: The Beat http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685081 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:25:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-685081 Is there some kind of Anti Dash Shaw league organizing somewhere? If you don't like his work don't read it. I don't allow name calling on this forum, and have removed several of the more ridiculous posts here. Is there some kind of Anti Dash Shaw league organizing somewhere? If you don’t like his work don’t read it.

I don’t allow name calling on this forum, and have removed several of the more ridiculous posts here.

]]> by: Eva Bright http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-684310 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:34:56 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-684310 After that horrible Dr. Strange story which looked like a blind 3 year old drew it, this guy is now picked as a breakout artist for 2008? What is going on in comics when a no talent like "Dash" is being praised for passing off kindergarten level crayon drawings while masters of the comic arts like Norm Breyfogle and John Byrne have to beg to get work from crummy companies like IDW and Dynamite comics! After that horrible Dr. Strange story which looked like a blind 3 year old drew it, this guy is now picked as a breakout artist for 2008?

What is going on in comics when a no talent like “Dash” is being praised for passing off kindergarten level crayon drawings while masters of the comic arts like Norm Breyfogle and John Byrne have to beg to get work from crummy companies like IDW and Dynamite comics!

]]> by: Nate http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-680445 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:02:02 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/04/stars-of-08-dash-shaw/#comment-680445 Looks friggin' great so far ... nice style ... haven't really seen anything like it so far. Wondering how much is traditional ink and how much is done on computer. Looks friggin’ great so far … nice style … haven’t really seen anything like it so far. Wondering how much is traditional ink and how much is done on computer.

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