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	<title>Comments on: Breaking: Boys read comics</title>
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		<title>by: goddard</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-756043</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-756043</guid>
					<description>well i am shocked, i say SHOCKED at these numbers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i am shocked, i say SHOCKED at these numbers
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		<title>by: Scott Bieser</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-753177</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-753177</guid>
					<description>&quot;Similarly, if Archie wants to attract more male readers, they’re not likely to do it by putting gunplay into BETTY &amp;#38; VERONICA.&quot;

Personally I would definitely buy a Betty &amp;#38; Veronica shoot-em-up. Especially if they're shooting each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Similarly, if Archie wants to attract more male readers, they’re not likely to do it by putting gunplay into BETTY &amp; VERONICA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I would definitely buy a Betty &amp; Veronica shoot-em-up. Especially if they&#8217;re shooting each other.
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		<title>by: Bring Back Zot</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-750633</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-750633</guid>
					<description>In the Lexington MA public library, there are a wide variety of trade paperbacks and hardcovers.  Superhero trades (ie Marvel Masterworks and DC archives) are read mostly by boys.  Donald Duck, Casper, Scooby Doo and Little Lulu are read by everyone, girls and boys.  

The way to grow both female and male readership is to get more all ages comics into public libraries and encourage reading at an early age.  The best books to donate to the libraries are the Dark Horse Little Lulu trades, Don Rosa's Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge, Carl Barks Greatest Duck Tales, and Marvel Masterworks Spider-Man.  Those are always checked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Lexington MA public library, there are a wide variety of trade paperbacks and hardcovers.  Superhero trades (ie Marvel Masterworks and DC archives) are read mostly by boys.  Donald Duck, Casper, Scooby Doo and Little Lulu are read by everyone, girls and boys.  </p>
<p>The way to grow both female and male readership is to get more all ages comics into public libraries and encourage reading at an early age.  The best books to donate to the libraries are the Dark Horse Little Lulu trades, Don Rosa&#8217;s Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge, Carl Barks Greatest Duck Tales, and Marvel Masterworks Spider-Man.  Those are always checked out.
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		<title>by: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-749271</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-749271</guid>
					<description>Here's a theory that's probably wrong, but I enjoy watching myself type:

Maybe the increase in female readers of comics has been matched by an equal increase in male readers, all of them having been drawn in by the decade's art/indie/manga-in-the-bookstores explosion. A rising tide lifts all boats, and what-not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a theory that&#8217;s probably wrong, but I enjoy watching myself type:</p>
<p>Maybe the increase in female readers of comics has been matched by an equal increase in male readers, all of them having been drawn in by the decade&#8217;s art/indie/manga-in-the-bookstores explosion. A rising tide lifts all boats, and what-not.
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		<title>by: Kurt Busiek</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747854</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747854</guid>
					<description>&amp;#62;&amp;#62; I don’t think it’s impossible to get girls to read superhero comics. &amp;#62;&amp;#62;

Nobody said it was, of course.  There was a substantial female audience for Chris Claremont's X-MEN, for instance.  

But the fact that it's not impossible does not mean it's all you need to do.

It's also not impossible to get men to watch THE VIEW (to pick a more extreme example), but it's not likely the best way either to boost VIEW ratings or to appeal to large numbers of men.

And even with BUFFY out there and selling well, I still wouldn't be remotely surprised to find that 90% of the superhero audience is male.  I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that 90% of the audience for the Buffy comic is male, though I also wouldn't be surprised if it was a bit lower than that.  I would be surprised, on the other hand, if the comic's demographics were anywhere near the TV show's.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; I don’t think it’s impossible to get girls to read superhero comics. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Nobody said it was, of course.  There was a substantial female audience for Chris Claremont&#8217;s X-MEN, for instance.  </p>
<p>But the fact that it&#8217;s not impossible does not mean it&#8217;s all you need to do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also not impossible to get men to watch THE VIEW (to pick a more extreme example), but it&#8217;s not likely the best way either to boost VIEW ratings or to appeal to large numbers of men.</p>
<p>And even with BUFFY out there and selling well, I still wouldn&#8217;t be remotely surprised to find that 90% of the superhero audience is male.  I wouldn&#8217;t be all that surprised to find out that 90% of the audience for the Buffy comic is male, though I also wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it was a bit lower than that.  I would be surprised, on the other hand, if the comic&#8217;s demographics were anywhere near the TV show&#8217;s.</p>
<p>kdb
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		<title>by: Laura Miello</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747725</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747725</guid>
					<description>I don't think it's impossible to get girls to read superhero comics.  Girls love Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the Spider-Man movies, Smallville, etc., and I think a lot of the basic themes are likely to appeal to anyone.  I think it's a matter of taking superheroes and telling those stories in a different way.  It's unlikely that you are going to get girls to read the same superhero comics that appeal to boys, but I do think that it's possible to get girls to read some form of superhero comic book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s impossible to get girls to read superhero comics.  Girls love Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the Spider-Man movies, Smallville, etc., and I think a lot of the basic themes are likely to appeal to anyone.  I think it&#8217;s a matter of taking superheroes and telling those stories in a different way.  It&#8217;s unlikely that you are going to get girls to read the same superhero comics that appeal to boys, but I do think that it&#8217;s possible to get girls to read some form of superhero comic book.
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		<title>by: Vincent S. Moore</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747092</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747092</guid>
					<description>As someone who has recently returned to comics retail, I can say the numbers in the demographics reflect who and what I actually see.  While I see a number of old familiar faces, I see plenty of new customers.  The majority are younger guys than I am or the older regulars.  And about 8% of who I see during the day I work are women buying comics for themselves.

What would interest me is seeing the demographics of a top manga publisher.

I also agree with Mr. Busiek about encouraging the Big Two and other publishers to look into publishing more comics that might appeal to women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has recently returned to comics retail, I can say the numbers in the demographics reflect who and what I actually see.  While I see a number of old familiar faces, I see plenty of new customers.  The majority are younger guys than I am or the older regulars.  And about 8% of who I see during the day I work are women buying comics for themselves.</p>
<p>What would interest me is seeing the demographics of a top manga publisher.</p>
<p>I also agree with Mr. Busiek about encouraging the Big Two and other publishers to look into publishing more comics that might appeal to women.
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		<title>by: Kurt Busiek</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747048</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-747048</guid>
					<description>I find it hard to believe the average age, myself -- that's about what it was ten years or more ago, and I had the impression the readership was still aging.

If they are talking superhero comics, though, the gender proportion shouldn't be a surprise -- it's like being surprised that the audience for action movies skews male, or that the audience for romance skews female.

I'm a big fan of the superhero genre and of exploring what else it can do, and there's certainly superhero comics that are capable of attracting and holding female readers, just as there are romances that attract guys (CASABLANCA, for one).

But at heart, superhero comics are a boy-appeal genre, and if publishers want to attract female readers to comics, the answer is to publish material that target audience will be attracted to, not to assume that comics equate to superheroes, so let's try to sell more superheroes to women.

When Harlequin decided they wanted to reach out to male readers, they didn't do it by putting more fistfights and fart jokes into their category romance novels; they did it by starting up (or acquiring) the Gold Eagle imprint, and publishing men's-adventure titles alongside the romances, rather than trying to do one thing for all readers.

Similarly, if Archie wants to attract more male readers, they're not likely to do it by putting gunplay into BETTY &amp;#38; VERONICA.

So if the survey is talking about superhero readers, gender balance in the readership is probably not going to ever happen.  They're superhero comics; you're about as likely to succeed at it as you are to find a way to get as many men as women watching THE VIEW.

If the survey is about &quot;mainstream&quot; comics, then the answer is to publish genres and content that will attract women.*  As seen with the success of SANDMAN, with the manga explosion, and more.  If you want gender outreach in comics, look to FLIGHT and BONE, but don't be surprised that it's not happening with THOR and BATMAN.

kdb

*well, part of the answer.  The usual caveats about format, distribution and promotion still apply, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe the average age, myself &#8212; that&#8217;s about what it was ten years or more ago, and I had the impression the readership was still aging.</p>
<p>If they are talking superhero comics, though, the gender proportion shouldn&#8217;t be a surprise &#8212; it&#8217;s like being surprised that the audience for action movies skews male, or that the audience for romance skews female.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of the superhero genre and of exploring what else it can do, and there&#8217;s certainly superhero comics that are capable of attracting and holding female readers, just as there are romances that attract guys (CASABLANCA, for one).</p>
<p>But at heart, superhero comics are a boy-appeal genre, and if publishers want to attract female readers to comics, the answer is to publish material that target audience will be attracted to, not to assume that comics equate to superheroes, so let&#8217;s try to sell more superheroes to women.</p>
<p>When Harlequin decided they wanted to reach out to male readers, they didn&#8217;t do it by putting more fistfights and fart jokes into their category romance novels; they did it by starting up (or acquiring) the Gold Eagle imprint, and publishing men&#8217;s-adventure titles alongside the romances, rather than trying to do one thing for all readers.</p>
<p>Similarly, if Archie wants to attract more male readers, they&#8217;re not likely to do it by putting gunplay into BETTY &amp; VERONICA.</p>
<p>So if the survey is talking about superhero readers, gender balance in the readership is probably not going to ever happen.  They&#8217;re superhero comics; you&#8217;re about as likely to succeed at it as you are to find a way to get as many men as women watching THE VIEW.</p>
<p>If the survey is about &#8220;mainstream&#8221; comics, then the answer is to publish genres and content that will attract women.*  As seen with the success of SANDMAN, with the manga explosion, and more.  If you want gender outreach in comics, look to FLIGHT and BONE, but don&#8217;t be surprised that it&#8217;s not happening with THOR and BATMAN.</p>
<p>kdb</p>
<p>*well, part of the answer.  The usual caveats about format, distribution and promotion still apply, of course.
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		<title>by: Lisa Jonté</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-746812</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe it's the company I keep, but I really find that 10% figure hard to swallow.  It's a strange coincidence that the same (10%) figure is often bandied about with regard to the number of women gamers out there (and I don't buy that one either.)  

I agree with Tom that they're probably taking little outside of superhero print comics into consideration.  I'd love to see the surveys used; see how they're worded and to whom they are given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s the company I keep, but I really find that 10% figure hard to swallow.  It&#8217;s a strange coincidence that the same (10%) figure is often bandied about with regard to the number of women gamers out there (and I don&#8217;t buy that one either.)  </p>
<p>I agree with Tom that they&#8217;re probably taking little outside of superhero print comics into consideration.  I&#8217;d love to see the surveys used; see how they&#8217;re worded and to whom they are given.
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		<title>by: Tom S.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/01/25/breaking-boys-read-comics/#comment-746334</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They are talking Superhero comics, not Graphic Novels, Manga and Indy that are truly driving the industry today.  There are probably more Female readers of a Shonen (Action Manga) series like Claymore than there are male readers.  I think overall in comics the split is 60/40 male or closer to even.  The strange thing is that at Traditonal comic book conventions the make up of the attendees is mostly male, while at Anime conventions the make up is mostly female.  Even at SDCC, it leans towards being a male event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are talking Superhero comics, not Graphic Novels, Manga and Indy that are truly driving the industry today.  There are probably more Female readers of a Shonen (Action Manga) series like Claymore than there are male readers.  I think overall in comics the split is 60/40 male or closer to even.  The strange thing is that at Traditonal comic book conventions the make up of the attendees is mostly male, while at Anime conventions the make up is mostly female.  Even at SDCC, it leans towards being a male event.
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