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	<title>Comments on: Late artists crackdown at DC?</title>
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		<title>by: Cully Hamner</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-934511</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Aw.  Thanks, Heidi.</description>
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-933589</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-933589</guid>
					<description>Can we just say Cully is the best? I guess I should put up a cover by Travis Charest or something.</description>
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		<title>by: Cully Hamner</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-933216</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-933216</guid>
					<description>May I just say that I'm not over the moon about my cover representing this story?  May I also say that I did that cover as a favor to the editor of that book (a friend of mine) who needed it turned around in 24 hours?  And may I finally say that he was happy enough with the fact that I delivered a good job on such short notice that he offered me the rest of the covers on the series on the spot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I just say that I&#8217;m not over the moon about my cover representing this story?  May I also say that I did that cover as a favor to the editor of that book (a friend of mine) who needed it turned around in 24 hours?  And may I finally say that he was happy enough with the fact that I delivered a good job on such short notice that he offered me the rest of the covers on the series on the spot?
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		<title>by: Doug</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-928996</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-928996</guid>
					<description>I first saw Frank Robbins's art on &lt;i&gt;Johnny Hazard&lt;/i&gt; and really hated it. In the &quot;Next Issue&quot; box hyping the first Man-Bat story he drew, the editor wrote, &quot;What? You didn't know Robbins could draw?&quot; Eleven-year-old me replied, &quot;No--I've seen his artwork, and I &lt;i&gt;didn't&lt;/i&gt; know Robbins could draw.&quot; 

Somewhere in the first few Batman stories he handled, though, I had an epiphany and came to love his artwork. By the time of &lt;i&gt;The Invaders,&lt;/i&gt; I was a full-fledged fan and couldn't think of anyone I'd have preferred to depict the 1940s wartime milieu. I was disappointed whenever a fill-in issue would come along without Robbins. That said, though, Marvel did sometimes put him on titles that didn't exactly play to his strengths. &lt;i&gt;Man from Atlantis&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Human Fly,&lt;/i&gt; anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first saw Frank Robbins&#8217;s art on <i>Johnny Hazard</i> and really hated it. In the &#8220;Next Issue&#8221; box hyping the first Man-Bat story he drew, the editor wrote, &#8220;What? You didn&#8217;t know Robbins could draw?&#8221; Eleven-year-old me replied, &#8220;No&#8211;I&#8217;ve seen his artwork, and I <i>didn&#8217;t</i> know Robbins could draw.&#8221; </p>
<p>Somewhere in the first few Batman stories he handled, though, I had an epiphany and came to love his artwork. By the time of <i>The Invaders,</i> I was a full-fledged fan and couldn&#8217;t think of anyone I&#8217;d have preferred to depict the 1940s wartime milieu. I was disappointed whenever a fill-in issue would come along without Robbins. That said, though, Marvel did sometimes put him on titles that didn&#8217;t exactly play to his strengths. <i>Man from Atlantis</i> or <i>Human Fly,</i> anyone?
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		<title>by: Al</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-928078</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-928078</guid>
					<description>Same here. HATED his work on Detective/ManBat for DC. I thought the pages were inked too heavy so that threre was too much density, and that everyone's faces looked squished in. 

Okay, now, now that he's passed away in Mexico years ago, and I am an adult and all that, he's great. But his art does (did) not appeal to a 13 year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here. HATED his work on Detective/ManBat for DC. I thought the pages were inked too heavy so that threre was too much density, and that everyone&#8217;s faces looked squished in. </p>
<p>Okay, now, now that he&#8217;s passed away in Mexico years ago, and I am an adult and all that, he&#8217;s great. But his art does (did) not appeal to a 13 year old.
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		<title>by: Ian Boothby</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-926021</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-926021</guid>
					<description>I love Frank Robbins' work now too but when you were used to the clean crisp Marvel style it was jarring and yeah I remember it made me a little sick to read it at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Frank Robbins&#8217; work now too but when you were used to the clean crisp Marvel style it was jarring and yeah I remember it made me a little sick to read it at the time.
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		<title>by: ookla</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-925756</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-925756</guid>
					<description>So Jim Shooter really is the new EIC at DC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jim Shooter really is the new EIC at DC?
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-924780</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-924780</guid>
					<description>&quot;I started reading fanzines and comics magazines and letter columns so I started hating them ...&quot;

Yeah, there is a certain joy to NOT knowing behind the scenes info.  You enjoy (or avoid) comics that don't look &quot;good&quot;, and don't worry about which creator is arguing with whom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I started reading fanzines and comics magazines and letter columns so I started hating them &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, there is a certain joy to NOT knowing behind the scenes info.  You enjoy (or avoid) comics that don&#8217;t look &#8220;good&#8221;, and don&#8217;t worry about which creator is arguing with whom.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-921261</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I liked a bunch of artists when I was a little kid and then I started reading fanzines and comics magazines and letter columns so I started hating them they told me I should and now I'm old and I like them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked a bunch of artists when I was a little kid and then I started reading fanzines and comics magazines and letter columns so I started hating them they told me I should and now I&#8217;m old and I like them again.
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		<title>by: Christopher Z.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-921134</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, and even though I hated his art at the time, I never passed on an issue of Cap or The Invaders because Robbins was the artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and even though I hated his art at the time, I never passed on an issue of Cap or The Invaders because Robbins was the artist.
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		<title>by: Christopher Z.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-921000</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-921000</guid>
					<description>I agree with Tom now about Robbins work, but back in '75 I agreed with Cary's opinion totally.  I hope my 15 year-old self would have stepped in and prevented any unpleasantness between the two.  That's what Cap would have wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tom now about Robbins work, but back in &#8216;75 I agreed with Cary&#8217;s opinion totally.  I hope my 15 year-old self would have stepped in and prevented any unpleasantness between the two.  That&#8217;s what Cap would have wanted.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-920501</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-920501</guid>
					<description>Frank Robbins was awesome! I'm going to build a time machine and go back to the '70s and convince 11-year-old me to push you down in the mud at recess.

If Frank Robbins were around today he'd have done like five Warren Ellis series in a row and become a well-established fan favorite. No one did batshit-insane looking, super-hot, strong women like 1970s Frank Robbins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Robbins was awesome! I&#8217;m going to build a time machine and go back to the &#8217;70s and convince 11-year-old me to push you down in the mud at recess.</p>
<p>If Frank Robbins were around today he&#8217;d have done like five Warren Ellis series in a row and become a well-established fan favorite. No one did batshit-insane looking, super-hot, strong women like 1970s Frank Robbins.
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		<title>by: Cary Coatney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-919767</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-919767</guid>
					<description>I remember back in the fifth grade, I was a regular reader of Captain America and a big fan of Sal Buscema's work. It was that period in the mid-seventies when Cap first hung his costume and became Nomad. Well, I guess Sal needed a breather for a few months because Frank Robbins did a couple of fill in issues and I remember hating his Robbin's work even way back when I was ten years old. It looked totally rushed and I never thought he was the right man for the job of drawing super hereos. Even the Invaders looked like crap. In fact, I nearly vomited up my 5th grade lunch peanut butter fluffernutters on my school desk because his work was such a eyesore to me and I always wondered - I wasted my 50 cent allowance on this tripe?

~

Coat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back in the fifth grade, I was a regular reader of Captain America and a big fan of Sal Buscema&#8217;s work. It was that period in the mid-seventies when Cap first hung his costume and became Nomad. Well, I guess Sal needed a breather for a few months because Frank Robbins did a couple of fill in issues and I remember hating his Robbin&#8217;s work even way back when I was ten years old. It looked totally rushed and I never thought he was the right man for the job of drawing super hereos. Even the Invaders looked like crap. In fact, I nearly vomited up my 5th grade lunch peanut butter fluffernutters on my school desk because his work was such a eyesore to me and I always wondered - I wasted my 50 cent allowance on this tripe?</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Coat
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		<title>by: Julio Dvulture</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-918834</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-918834</guid>
					<description>I wish comic book art was produced just like manga art: one panel at time, with a main artist and one to five assistants. Really. To the ones that say that produces a non-descript art-style, I disagree, certainly even if you compare two shonen titles like One Piece and Samurai-X they are very distinct even thought the mangakas worked together for a time. But them again even the really bad stuff sells ten times more in Japan then a comic book sells... preety much anywhere. I mean on Japan, One Piece sells millions... while on US something that sells 300,000 is laudaded as the industry savior.

I mean some degree of lateness is okay... I would not complain about and extra half a month spent on research, specially if the comic books companies were more responsible and worked with a buffer. I mean they should really had at least three issues already done when launching a new title. And releasing mini-series that are already complete.

Unfortunely, since the comic book industry is so small, almost pathetic when compared to other print industries, and even more when compared to other medias, but they allege and i'm inclined to believe, that they don't have the money to do that. Damn shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish comic book art was produced just like manga art: one panel at time, with a main artist and one to five assistants. Really. To the ones that say that produces a non-descript art-style, I disagree, certainly even if you compare two shonen titles like One Piece and Samurai-X they are very distinct even thought the mangakas worked together for a time. But them again even the really bad stuff sells ten times more in Japan then a comic book sells&#8230; preety much anywhere. I mean on Japan, One Piece sells millions&#8230; while on US something that sells 300,000 is laudaded as the industry savior.</p>
<p>I mean some degree of lateness is okay&#8230; I would not complain about and extra half a month spent on research, specially if the comic books companies were more responsible and worked with a buffer. I mean they should really had at least three issues already done when launching a new title. And releasing mini-series that are already complete.</p>
<p>Unfortunely, since the comic book industry is so small, almost pathetic when compared to other print industries, and even more when compared to other medias, but they allege and i&#8217;m inclined to believe, that they don&#8217;t have the money to do that. Damn shame.
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		<title>by: Jason Green</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-918064</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-918064</guid>
					<description>&quot;Stuart Immomen. Best artist working today. No missed deadlines.&quot;

Not to mention his predecessor Mark Bagley, who is apparently going to be doing 16 pages &lt;i&gt;a week&lt;/i&gt; for DC's upcoming weekly series &quot;Trinity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stuart Immomen. Best artist working today. No missed deadlines.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to mention his predecessor Mark Bagley, who is apparently going to be doing 16 pages <i>a week</i> for DC&#8217;s upcoming weekly series &#8220;Trinity.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Robert Rath</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-917852</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-917852</guid>
					<description>PS

Stuart Immomen.

Best artist working today. No missed deadlines.

It can be done.</description>
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<p>Stuart Immomen.</p>
<p>Best artist working today. No missed deadlines.</p>
<p>It can be done.
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		<title>by: Robert Rath</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-917823</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think Heidi is mostly right, that comics artists draw at about the same speed. It's just how many distractions they put before the work. Surfing, gaming, etc. kill the productivity, that's for sure. I'm always stunned when I see pictures of an artist's studio, and sure enough there's a stack of DVDs and a TV set right next to the drawing table. Sure, using movies can work when you need reference, or are thinking of some cool scene that you want to emulate, but having the TV on while you work brings the productivity to a crawl.

I've seen some of the so-called slowest artists (Mr. Hughes) draw incredibly fast. His sketches are incredible, and would easily pass for what the art heroes of yesteryear would consider pretty tight pencils, especially with an inker giving them a good polish. He could do a book a month no problem, if that's what he wanted to do. 

He's not a good example, since his artistic goals are different than surviving a monthly book, and he never made any bones about how his inability to handle a monthly schedule.

The bigger issues (besides modern-day distractions, which is gigantic) are the level of 'quality' the fans expect, and ironically, the same movies and games that get the artists into so much trouble.

Fans want monthly books, but are the first ones to complain if the art isn't up to where they expect it. The artist wants to please the fans, and especially ask for high prices for original pages that are loaded with detail, so they pack an issue to the brim with detail. And fans don't want to pay top dollar for original art that is sketchy with areas the inker would fill in at the end, so each page the penciller works on is a mini masterpiece by itself. Again, I'm stunned to see penciled page where the artist has gone ahead and filled in all the black areas with his HB. How long did that take? When did the little &quot;x&quot; or &quot;BWS&quot; notes get outlawed? Because it makes the page more attractive to the art market.

Even more importantly, back in the day, comics didn't have as many competitors for a kid's imagination. There were no video games, and even if there was the occasional genre movie, it was no were near as dynamic as a good comic could be. Now, there's 3 killer games and 2 awesome movies coming out every week! Comics have to compete at a much higher visual level to even try to get a piece of a kid's entertainment dollar. 

The visual design of these games and movies, along with how dynamic they have become, has suddenly made comics look very plain to the average kid. I love comics with all my heart, and will argue the subtleties of panel pacing and a perfectly positioned word balloon with anyone, but most viewers are going for the wow factor, and that's a lot of pressure to put on an artist. If your post-apocalyptic comic is going to compete with the latest amazing post-apocolyptic game or movie, it has to be unbelievable, and that takes time. And factor in that a comic is a one-person show, and movies and video games have entire staffs to come up with cool characters and shots. That's a lot of pressure.

I don't know what the answer is. It's tough on all sides.

I think the answer, as always, is to learn from history. Go back to shorter main stories and have more backups, as well as more fill in issues ready to roll if necessary. Everyone wins. The star artist gets to keep going on his book, but with fewer pages to worry about each month. The fans get their monthly fix. Up and coming artists (howdy!) might get more opportunities to do the back up stories. And editors can still collect the main storyline as a trade without inconsistent art problems.

Hopefully this new policy by DC will lead to that. /rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Heidi is mostly right, that comics artists draw at about the same speed. It&#8217;s just how many distractions they put before the work. Surfing, gaming, etc. kill the productivity, that&#8217;s for sure. I&#8217;m always stunned when I see pictures of an artist&#8217;s studio, and sure enough there&#8217;s a stack of DVDs and a TV set right next to the drawing table. Sure, using movies can work when you need reference, or are thinking of some cool scene that you want to emulate, but having the TV on while you work brings the productivity to a crawl.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some of the so-called slowest artists (Mr. Hughes) draw incredibly fast. His sketches are incredible, and would easily pass for what the art heroes of yesteryear would consider pretty tight pencils, especially with an inker giving them a good polish. He could do a book a month no problem, if that&#8217;s what he wanted to do. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s not a good example, since his artistic goals are different than surviving a monthly book, and he never made any bones about how his inability to handle a monthly schedule.</p>
<p>The bigger issues (besides modern-day distractions, which is gigantic) are the level of &#8216;quality&#8217; the fans expect, and ironically, the same movies and games that get the artists into so much trouble.</p>
<p>Fans want monthly books, but are the first ones to complain if the art isn&#8217;t up to where they expect it. The artist wants to please the fans, and especially ask for high prices for original pages that are loaded with detail, so they pack an issue to the brim with detail. And fans don&#8217;t want to pay top dollar for original art that is sketchy with areas the inker would fill in at the end, so each page the penciller works on is a mini masterpiece by itself. Again, I&#8217;m stunned to see penciled page where the artist has gone ahead and filled in all the black areas with his HB. How long did that take? When did the little &#8220;x&#8221; or &#8220;BWS&#8221; notes get outlawed? Because it makes the page more attractive to the art market.</p>
<p>Even more importantly, back in the day, comics didn&#8217;t have as many competitors for a kid&#8217;s imagination. There were no video games, and even if there was the occasional genre movie, it was no were near as dynamic as a good comic could be. Now, there&#8217;s 3 killer games and 2 awesome movies coming out every week! Comics have to compete at a much higher visual level to even try to get a piece of a kid&#8217;s entertainment dollar. </p>
<p>The visual design of these games and movies, along with how dynamic they have become, has suddenly made comics look very plain to the average kid. I love comics with all my heart, and will argue the subtleties of panel pacing and a perfectly positioned word balloon with anyone, but most viewers are going for the wow factor, and that&#8217;s a lot of pressure to put on an artist. If your post-apocalyptic comic is going to compete with the latest amazing post-apocolyptic game or movie, it has to be unbelievable, and that takes time. And factor in that a comic is a one-person show, and movies and video games have entire staffs to come up with cool characters and shots. That&#8217;s a lot of pressure.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the answer is. It&#8217;s tough on all sides.</p>
<p>I think the answer, as always, is to learn from history. Go back to shorter main stories and have more backups, as well as more fill in issues ready to roll if necessary. Everyone wins. The star artist gets to keep going on his book, but with fewer pages to worry about each month. The fans get their monthly fix. Up and coming artists (howdy!) might get more opportunities to do the back up stories. And editors can still collect the main storyline as a trade without inconsistent art problems.</p>
<p>Hopefully this new policy by DC will lead to that. /rant.
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		<title>by: deco</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>News Flash to All Fanboys:

Monthly comics are a business.

If you’re an oil painter or a novelist or a poet, you can work on your own time, in your own way. If you decide to work for a company that puts out periodicals, then you have to produce your work accordingly. Even as a free lancer, working as an artist or a writer on a monthly title is a de facto staff job. Accepting the benefits of regular work (like, say, a regular pay check) has obligations in return (like, say, turning your work in on time.) Could a magazine or newspaper writer get away with this crap without getting canned? Why should a few prima donnas impair other people's livelihoods due to their lateness? (Unless, of course, they want to reimburse publishers, printers, shippers and retailers for lost revenues due to delayed titles.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News Flash to All Fanboys:</p>
<p>Monthly comics are a business.</p>
<p>If you’re an oil painter or a novelist or a poet, you can work on your own time, in your own way. If you decide to work for a company that puts out periodicals, then you have to produce your work accordingly. Even as a free lancer, working as an artist or a writer on a monthly title is a de facto staff job. Accepting the benefits of regular work (like, say, a regular pay check) has obligations in return (like, say, turning your work in on time.) Could a magazine or newspaper writer get away with this crap without getting canned? Why should a few prima donnas impair other people&#8217;s livelihoods due to their lateness? (Unless, of course, they want to reimburse publishers, printers, shippers and retailers for lost revenues due to delayed titles.)
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		<title>by: Nate Linley</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Other artists who can draw monthly books include Pete Woods, Dan Jurgens, Jerry Ordway, Doug Mahnke, Paul Pelletier, Gordon Purcell, Leonard Kirk, Rick Burchett, Freddie Williams, Joe Bennett, Todd Nauck and Ron Frenz. So there are a lot of artists who can draw regularly, but they aren't always Wizard top 10 guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other artists who can draw monthly books include Pete Woods, Dan Jurgens, Jerry Ordway, Doug Mahnke, Paul Pelletier, Gordon Purcell, Leonard Kirk, Rick Burchett, Freddie Williams, Joe Bennett, Todd Nauck and Ron Frenz. So there are a lot of artists who can draw regularly, but they aren&#8217;t always Wizard top 10 guys.
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		<title>by: Joe Lawler</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Don’t forget the talented and speedy Darick Robertson in that list of 12-or-more- issues-a-month artist&quot;

That's a lot of issues a month, DC should have him to all their books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don’t forget the talented and speedy Darick Robertson in that list of 12-or-more- issues-a-month artist&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of issues a month, DC should have him to all their books.
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		<title>by: rich</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jimmy:

&quot;and I understand pretty pictures dont make a good comic as well…just saying if i pick it up off the rack and it looks like crap, its a no sell for me.&quot;

I misunderstood ... my bad ... and yeah, if a comic doesn't appeal to the eye, I might pass it up as well.  Good art sells the book initially ... good writing AND art keep the reader/buyer coming back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy:</p>
<p>&#8220;and I understand pretty pictures dont make a good comic as well…just saying if i pick it up off the rack and it looks like crap, its a no sell for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I misunderstood &#8230; my bad &#8230; and yeah, if a comic doesn&#8217;t appeal to the eye, I might pass it up as well.  Good art sells the book initially &#8230; good writing AND art keep the reader/buyer coming back.
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		<title>by: Kid Q</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't forget the talented and speedy Darick Robertson in that list of 12-or-more- issues-a-month artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the talented and speedy Darick Robertson in that list of 12-or-more- issues-a-month artists.
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		<title>by: The Comics Creator</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-916813</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can pencil 22 pages in three weeks.

That may sound boastful, but I still don't know if my work is up to par.

Is DC open to unsolicited submissions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can pencil 22 pages in three weeks.</p>
<p>That may sound boastful, but I still don&#8217;t know if my work is up to par.</p>
<p>Is DC open to unsolicited submissions?
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		<title>by: neeb</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-916118</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Name me five other artists that are working for Marvel or DC today that have done more than five issues without a fill in and on a monthly basis.&quot;

Mark Buckingham, Steve Pugh, John  McCrea, Don Kramer, Howard Porter, Chris Bachalo, Barry Kitson.

Some of the above may not do 12 issues a year, but are at least sensible enough to know their limits and request fill-in for the months they're resting and catching up (hence, very few late books).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Name me five other artists that are working for Marvel or DC today that have done more than five issues without a fill in and on a monthly basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mark Buckingham, Steve Pugh, John  McCrea, Don Kramer, Howard Porter, Chris Bachalo, Barry Kitson.</p>
<p>Some of the above may not do 12 issues a year, but are at least sensible enough to know their limits and request fill-in for the months they&#8217;re resting and catching up (hence, very few late books).
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		<title>by: Stefan P</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Name me five other artists that are working for Marvel or DC today that have done more than five issues without a fill in and on a monthly basis.&quot;

michael lark, pia guerra, eduardo risso, sean philips, probably tony harris (i'm not quite sure about his &quot;ex machina&quot;-schedules), becky cloonan. six names, which gives me one false shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Name me five other artists that are working for Marvel or DC today that have done more than five issues without a fill in and on a monthly basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>michael lark, pia guerra, eduardo risso, sean philips, probably tony harris (i&#8217;m not quite sure about his &#8220;ex machina&#8221;-schedules), becky cloonan. six names, which gives me one false shot.
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		<title>by: mario boon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Ty: the Kubert brothers teach at their fathers school at the same time. The combination of those two jobs don't work, imo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ty: the Kubert brothers teach at their fathers school at the same time. The combination of those two jobs don&#8217;t work, imo
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		<title>by: dan cooney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/19/late-artists-crackdown-at-dc/#comment-914813</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is news? Sigh... I miss Archie Goodwin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is news? Sigh&#8230; I miss Archie Goodwin.
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		<title>by: Ty Buttars</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>**with apologies for all the questions and no answers **

Should (or have they already?) DC (and Marvel) look at how big of a role exclusive contracts play in an artist's capacity to turn out work?  To use the Kubert brothers as an example (not to pick on them), before signing on at DC  I had never heard or read of them having chronic deadline issues.  But almost overnight it seemed their production just diminished drastically.  What was different during their time at Marvel?  

Granted there might be personal issues involved (e.g. to Terry Dodson hurting his drawing arm) that we are not nor should be privy too but can the comfort level of having a steady paycheck with benefits dull the efficiency of a contract artist?  Are freelancers able to hit the 4 week period because there is an urgency that the exclusives do not have?  Instead of boosting their bottom line, are the Big 2 just hurting their bottom lines with an excess of exclusive contracts?

It is also interesting to note that there was no mention of a writer's policy.  Is there one forthcoming?  

And Nicola, yes, you do deserve a raise :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**with apologies for all the questions and no answers **</p>
<p>Should (or have they already?) DC (and Marvel) look at how big of a role exclusive contracts play in an artist&#8217;s capacity to turn out work?  To use the Kubert brothers as an example (not to pick on them), before signing on at DC  I had never heard or read of them having chronic deadline issues.  But almost overnight it seemed their production just diminished drastically.  What was different during their time at Marvel?  </p>
<p>Granted there might be personal issues involved (e.g. to Terry Dodson hurting his drawing arm) that we are not nor should be privy too but can the comfort level of having a steady paycheck with benefits dull the efficiency of a contract artist?  Are freelancers able to hit the 4 week period because there is an urgency that the exclusives do not have?  Instead of boosting their bottom line, are the Big 2 just hurting their bottom lines with an excess of exclusive contracts?</p>
<p>It is also interesting to note that there was no mention of a writer&#8217;s policy.  Is there one forthcoming?  </p>
<p>And Nicola, yes, you do deserve a raise <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd have to agree with jp on this.  Hiring quality artists on the condition of knowing the type of output that can handle is key.
But it seems like this new model, with fill-in artists is the way things used to be.  Indies seemed to be the only ones who used exclusive creators on books.  I wonder if that way of thinking will go away and what this age of comics (artist and writer-centric) can be labeled if true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with jp on this.  Hiring quality artists on the condition of knowing the type of output that can handle is key.<br />
But it seems like this new model, with fill-in artists is the way things used to be.  Indies seemed to be the only ones who used exclusive creators on books.  I wonder if that way of thinking will go away and what this age of comics (artist and writer-centric) can be labeled if true?
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		<title>by: Tucker Stone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's so clear that this is being brought out into the public forum just to distract everyone from DC finally giving Spoiler a display case in the Batcave.  You've all been took for suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so clear that this is being brought out into the public forum just to distract everyone from DC finally giving Spoiler a display case in the Batcave.  You&#8217;ve all been took for suckers.
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