Comments on: Alien plots are copyeditors’ downfall http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:52:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: James Van Hise http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-992739 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:51:20 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-992739 Is this going to be like CIVIL WAR in that a major change in the Marvel universe will be introduced (like the unmasking of Spider-Man) only to have it magically disappear a year later? Is this going to be like CIVIL WAR in that a major change in the Marvel universe will be introduced (like the unmasking of Spider-Man) only to have it magically disappear a year later?

]]> by: rich http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-947940 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:48:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-947940 I read Calvin Trillin's remark in an issue of WRITER'S DIGEST long ago: "As far as I'm concerned, 'whom' is a word that was invented to make everyone sound like a butler." So does this mean this Jarvis is a skrull? I read Calvin Trillin’s remark in an issue of WRITER’S DIGEST long ago:

“As far as I’m concerned, ‘whom’ is a word that was invented to make everyone sound like a butler.”

So does this mean this Jarvis is a skrull?

]]> by: Donnie http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-944994 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:36:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-944994 It was probably <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ventriloblog/82206593/" rel="nofollow">The Goldwaters</a> that corrected the classic Bo Diddley song to its proper uptight whitey usage of "Whom Do You Love?" Lighten up, ya word nerds! It was probably The Goldwaters that corrected the classic Bo Diddley song to its proper uptight whitey usage of “Whom Do You Love?”

Lighten up, ya word nerds!

]]> by: Dreamer http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-942655 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:16:35 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-942655 learning about and the continual usage of the delicacies of a language also enriches and preserves a greater part of the cultural processes that human civilization as a whole have developed until this point, besides the proposed cognitive advantage above .. that pseudo-intellectual argument aside, who do you trust sounds about right and don't think it should be considered a big issue anyway.. :p learning about and the continual usage of the delicacies of a language also enriches and preserves a greater part of the cultural processes that human civilization as a whole have developed until this point, besides the proposed cognitive advantage above ..

that pseudo-intellectual argument aside, who do you trust sounds about right and don’t think it should be considered a big issue anyway.. :p

]]> by: Paul O'Brien http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-941459 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:52:07 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-941459 The copy-editor is right. "Whom" is basically dead outside formal written English. Even the OED lists it as obsolete in colloquial speech. And there are plenty of situations where, whatever the traditional rules may say, "Whom" is so unnatural as to be plainly wrong in a modern context. ("Whom do you think you're looking at?") "Who do you trust?" is entirely right as colloquial English, and more or less acceptable even as formal English. "Whom do you trust?" is too formal in tone. The copy-editor is right. “Whom” is basically dead outside formal written English. Even the OED lists it as obsolete in colloquial speech. And there are plenty of situations where, whatever the traditional rules may say, “Whom” is so unnatural as to be plainly wrong in a modern context. (”Whom do you think you’re looking at?”)

“Who do you trust?” is entirely right as colloquial English, and more or less acceptable even as formal English. “Whom do you trust?” is too formal in tone.

]]> by: David C http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-935697 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 04:11:34 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-935697 Hmmm... Alright Daniel, y'gots a point. I still think learning the rules and using them (to a point) betters cognitive process (as does having a larger vocabulary), but that article has partially won me over. Hmmm… Alright Daniel, y’gots a point.

I still think learning the rules and using them (to a point) betters cognitive process (as does having a larger vocabulary), but that article has partially won me over.

]]> by: Daniel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-934104 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:52:13 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-934104 **Sigh** Here's a good article for all you grammar na...sorry, "mavens" to enjoy, http://camba.ucsd.edu/~bakovic/ll/grammar_puss.html#care_less **Sigh**

Here’s a good article for all you grammar na…sorry, “mavens” to enjoy,

http://camba.ucsd.edu/~bakovic/ll/grammar_puss.html#care_less

]]> by: David C http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933959 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:09:20 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933959 I like 'whom'. It makes me feel important. But seriously, if we start deleting all the difficult parts of language that are irregular or difficult and calling it "evolution", one day we'll be left with "I finded mooses in my garden. Its bad and your 2 blame." I like ‘whom’. It makes me feel important.

But seriously, if we start deleting all the difficult parts of language that are irregular or difficult and calling it “evolution”, one day we’ll be left with “I finded mooses in my garden. Its bad and your 2 blame.”

]]> by: rich http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933842 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:44:49 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933842 Has PAD written any THOR material? That would answer your question. Has PAD written any THOR material? That would answer your question.

]]> by: Adan Jimenez http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933014 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-933014 It's almost as if language doesn't evolve or something. As if it's frozen in time, never to change. I'd like to ask PAD when the last time he used "thee" or "thou" was. It’s almost as if language doesn’t evolve or something. As if it’s frozen in time, never to change.

I’d like to ask PAD when the last time he used “thee” or “thou” was.

]]> by: Scott Koblish http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932997 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:55:55 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932997 Maybe the copy-editor's a skrull? Does anyone REALLY know if that's Flo? ;-) Maybe the copy-editor’s a skrull? Does anyone REALLY know if that’s Flo? ;-)

]]> by: Scott Bieser http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932892 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:15:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932892 Actually, it will shake out that the way to tell a human from a Skrull is that humans know how to use who/whom properly. Skrulls always get it wrong. So, the ending to PAD's scene is: "No. Objective case whom." "BLAM! BLAM!" Actually, it will shake out that the way to tell a human from a Skrull is that humans know how to use who/whom properly. Skrulls always get it wrong. So, the ending to PAD’s scene is:

“No. Objective case whom.”

“BLAM! BLAM!”

]]> by: Brian Jacoby from Secret Headquarters Tallahassee, Florida http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932432 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:06:22 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932432 I think when it all washes out, it will be revealed that every single person, super- or not, in the Marvel Universe is a skrull, except for the people that are clones, from alternate futures, robots, from Earth-2, and ironically, the Super Skrull, who is just wearing a rubber mask. I think when it all washes out, it will be revealed that every single person, super- or not, in the Marvel Universe is a skrull, except for the people that are clones, from alternate futures, robots, from Earth-2, and ironically, the Super Skrull, who is just wearing a rubber mask.

]]> by: John Platt http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932230 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:41:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932230 Amended: Peter David wins by a knock-knock! Amended: Peter David wins by a knock-knock!

]]> by: John Platt http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932229 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:40:23 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-932229 Peter David wins! Peter David wins!

]]> by: Daniel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930412 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:20:04 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930412 C'mon, PAD. Whom has been dying for years and it's not a great loss. Language is carbon-based, not silicon. Let it evolve. C’mon, PAD. Whom has been dying for years and it’s not a great loss. Language is carbon-based, not silicon. Let it evolve.

]]> by: Peter David http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930397 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:14:39 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930397 "Knock knock." "Who's there?" "Objective case." "Objective case who?" "No. Objective case whom." PAD “Knock knock.”

“Who’s there?”

“Objective case.”

“Objective case who?”

“No. Objective case whom.”

PAD

]]> by: Bill Cunningham http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930189 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:07:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930189 Amazing! No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney! Amazing! No matter how thin you slice it, it’s still baloney!

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930096 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:42:53 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-930096 Whom cares? About who/whom, I mean. It has been obvious for weeks that Marvel is going to run a whole garbage-truck load of Skrull covers over the next year. Last year---zombies. This year---Skrulls. Next year---??? Whom cares?

About who/whom, I mean.

It has been obvious for weeks that Marvel is going to run a whole garbage-truck load of Skrull covers over the next year. Last year—zombies. This year—Skrulls. Next year—???

]]> by: David Frankel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929898 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:39:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929898 The continued extinction of "whom". Pet peeve #612; collect them all The continued extinction of “whom”.

Pet peeve #612; collect them all

]]> by: Ben Morse http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929894 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:38:51 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929894 Machiavellian. Machiavellian.

]]> by: Kiel Phegley http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929789 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:03:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929789 Just so I could make that joke. Just so I could make that joke.

]]> by: Ben Morse http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929506 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:45:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-929506 Kiel Phegley suggested this entire campaign. Kiel Phegley suggested this entire campaign.

]]> by: Matthew Craig http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928907 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:18:15 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928907 That's the old Spider-Man font (Todd Klein: one of yours?). A STRONG HINT, if EVER I saw one. Todd Klei - I mean Spider-Man is a Skrull! Also, THE EYES. //\Oo/\\ That’s the old Spider-Man font (Todd Klein: one of yours?).

A STRONG HINT, if EVER I saw one.

Todd Klei - I mean Spider-Man is a Skrull!

Also, THE EYES.

//\Oo/\\

]]> by: jonathan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928906 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928906 This whole campaign is kind of boring compared to the Zombie covers which have been done so much that they are no longer interesting. This whole campaign is kind of boring compared to the Zombie covers which have been done so much that they are no longer interesting.

]]> by: Rakarich http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928904 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:16:23 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928904 Marve's marketing department is great at it's job. But this time I think they are doing the "overkill" on this one so far. Marve’s marketing department is great at it’s job. But this time I think they are doing the “overkill” on this one so far.

]]> by: Brian Davison http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928903 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:11:57 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928903 Shouldn't that be "WHOM do you trust?" Shouldn’t that be “WHOM do you trust?”

]]> by: Koko http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928901 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:07:41 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928901 $ $

]]> by: Koko http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928899 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:07:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928899 $ $

]]> by: Bill http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928868 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:52:23 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/02/22/alien-plots-are-copyeditors-downfall/#comment-928868 Kiel - Good call. Kiel - Good call.

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