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Plus, there’s Jenna’s Wicked Weapon superhero comic, based on a huge-budget adult action film of the same name that was one of the top-selling videos (and comics) of the ’90s. At the time, she did promotional appearances at adult book stores for her comic, turning countless adult fans onto comic books who might otherwise never have been interested in comics.

One of Jenna’s comic promos at Fairhaven Video in Florida attracted almost 1,000 people and landed her on several local and national news spots - promoting comic books! Jenna’s Wicked Weapon comic is STILL in print, over ten years later. The original video release had a bound-in Wicked Weapon comic book. The later DVD release included a full color semi-animated comic book feature, where viewers could switch back and forth between the live action film and related comic book scenes. Wicked Weapon won a bunch of adult film industry awards, including - most notably for comic fans - a “Best Marketing” award, due to the innovative comic book tie-ins.

All told, it’s entirely possible that more people have bought Jenna Jameson comic books than any other female-created comic of the past decade-plus. The Carnal Comics line itself has over a million comic books in print, having been the top-selling adults-only comic books in industry history. Carnal’s main artist for a long time was a woman, Fauve, aka Holly GoLightly of Broadsword Comics, as was their art director Heather Dawn, cover painter Michaela Tomassini, etc. Jenna has every right to be on the comic-con panel, including/especially one about women comic creators, no matter how silly and mildly demeaning the language of the panel announcement.

Some of you may not like Jenna, or adult comics in general, but the truth is that both have drawn tens of thousands of people into buying comic books who otherwise wouldn’t be interested —- the same thing may happen with Shadow Hunter. Speaking on behalf of Jenna, who I worked with on her comic books (the ones pre-dating Shadow Hunter, anyway), “You’re welcome.”

I would be outraged at lumping Frank Miller and Alan Moore together!
… Frank Miller and Ron Jeremy sound about right, though. Jenna would round out that panel nicely!

Eh, I doubt she’ll really add much to the panel aside from the “omg jenna jameson/porn star!” novelty. From what I’ve seen of her talking about comics she has little of interest to say, and from what I’ve seen of her comic’s previews it looks like a disjointed spawn/witchblade knockoff. D:

And it’s sad to see that panels like this tend to segregate by gender rather than saying, “Hey! Here are some kickass creators, so get off your ass and hear what they have to say!” In my experience as both a comics fan and a pro, I’ve found that there is little if any difference in what male and female creators put on paper, the success of the results coming down to the individual’s talent. When I read the work of Gail Simone I don’t think, “Wow! Gail Simone sure writes good comics…for a woman,” and instead think, “Wow! Gail Simone is one hell of a writer,” and I feel that’s the kind of thinking that should go into creating a lineup for a convention panel/forum. Showcase the people with the talent and creativity and leave the gender bullshit out of it. It’s 2008, people, we should be past this by now.

hmmm … nothing?

I wouldn’t be so sure. Guys in general are able to enjoy things for the train wrecks they can become. However if you put Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Stan Lee and Ron bloody Jeremy on a panel together, do you really think all of Dork-dom wouldn’t blow up the internet in an outrage?

We all know how they get when FICTIONAL CHARACTERS are messed with. What would happen when someone messes with their legendary creators by putting them on a panel with a novice writer with a porn film background?

Seriously, the “Girls Who Kick Ass” panel is silly enough on its own merits. I don’t see why it had to become a gender studies issue.

Sadly, it is unfortunate that even in the comments section, old fashioned sexism is still alive and well.

If Ron Jeremy suddenly got into comics and wanted to talk about comics in a panel, even if he were alongside Frank Miller or Joe Quesada, I’m sure guys would be more accepting.

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good.

Panels about being a woman in a male dominated industry

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possibly good. Depends on how male dominated the industry really is and if the topic is more specifically advice for female creators (good) or because the conference people figure if they give the ladies a place to vent, they won’t bring the topic up elsewhere (bad, duh).

Panels that confuse these two topics and/or assume that only women have something to say about the former (and possibly implying that women don’t have anything to add to other topics)

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bad, very bad.

Panels that completely miss the point and think that women don’t read comics, that they only sometimes make them

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so bad someone needs to be sentenced to several decades of only being allowed to read such gems as Marmeduke and Family Circus.

Also nice that it seems that these female authors are only writing for fanboys. Guess they’re not aiming for other fangirls. Or you know, fanboys who prefer other fanboys. Wow. This panel set ups is total fail.

Thrustarillion! lol!

It is not implausible that the other panelists weren’t informed of Jameson’s participation (or that of any of the others.)

Panelists may have been approached with “Hey, will you be on a panel about Women in Comics?” rather than “Hey, will you be on a panel about Women in Comics with X, Y, and Z other panelists?”

Yeah, but … this is the New York COMIC Con … not the NY Porn Con … I think …

For the all the usual “drooling fanboy” comments, I’ve never been crazy about seeing models or “actresses” at comic shows. I figured most people in attendance don’t pay much attention to them. Does the appearance of a former playboy model or a xxx woman really enhance the attendance? Seems like they’re always eye-candy footnotes on the guest list, someone people may pause and speak to on their way to get a sketch from an artist.

Anyway, as far as I’m concerned, the other four are window dressing. I could listen to Louise Simonson talk for hours.

I would ask, how come none of the other people did not just decline to appear on this panel? Jenna Jameson I am sure could be interesting on panels about a wide range of topics, but this one seems a bit of a farce.

Oh and as an FYI, Jenna’s films don’t sell anywhere like they used to.

The first one that comes immediately to mind is Rosario Dawson & her Image Comics series Occult Crimes Taskforce…

Also, for those making the connections with Jenna Jameson and comics, in addition to her current Virgin comics project, her autobiography from a few years back “How To Make Love Like A Porn Star” included some comics work from Bernard Chang (who later did the infamous, odious, and not-associated-with-Jenna-Jameson graphic novel “How to Make Money Like A Porn Star” written by Neil Strauss, who was the co-author of the Jameson autobiography…)

For a hobbit to hate this panel, it must be a bad panel indeed.

Now then … what does the “hobbit” reference have to do with a comics panel?

Hobbits? I don’t understand the reference.

“But the sad truth is that more men will come to the panel because of that than the other creators. Double fail.”

Men are evil, aren’t they?!

The sad truth is, we don’t know that. We’ll know which panels are better attended when the convention is over.

SRS

Would the panel be less offensive if Jamie King appeared instead of Ms. Jameson? Are there other female celebrities writing comics, who aren’t known for their appearance (such as Pamela Anderson)?

If moderated tightly, the Drooling Fanboys in the audience will be kept under control, and perhaps the packed room will be enlightened by the other creators.

I think that such panels are worthwhile. Young women trying to be successul in comics crave much information and inspiration. It’s a fine line… I’ll definitely be there, because the panelists are so good! (And immediately afterwards, I’ll fire up the cellphone and search the blogs for comments!)

I think you’re just seeing what you want to see. Aside from the simple fact that Jenna Jameson should never be grouped with those other three talented women (unless she can prove she’s as good at creating comics as they are), I see nothing dumb about it. There isn’t anything inherently patronizing or sexist about offering a panel focused on something gender specific and populated by individuals of that specific gender.

Sexist and patronizing would be allowing women to ONLY sit on panels with other women.

Besides, wouldn’t women–and these female comic book professionals in particular–want to be able to talk about their craft without having to deal with the usual moronic male bullshit which is so prevalent at comic book conventions?