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		<title>by: Tommy Raiko</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1343376</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&amp;#62;The Joan Hilty link isn’t working….Me so sad. 

Try: http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6552165.html?q=hilty</description>
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<p>Try: <a href='http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6552165.html?q=hilty' rel='nofollow'>http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6552165.html?q=hilty</a>
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1340174</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1340174</guid>
					<description>Mark,
I just meant that FF doesn't look like an idea patterned after the JLA, but an idea that got put into motion because of JLA (the usual suspected &quot;parent&quot; of FF is Kirby's CHALLENGERS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
I just meant that FF doesn&#8217;t look like an idea patterned after the JLA, but an idea that got put into motion because of JLA (the usual suspected &#8220;parent&#8221; of FF is Kirby&#8217;s CHALLENGERS).
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1336452</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1336452</guid>
					<description>I thought Stan Lee had said that FF was in response to the success of JLA, not the Avengers (even though that would intuitively make more sense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Stan Lee had said that FF was in response to the success of JLA, not the Avengers (even though that would intuitively make more sense).
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		<title>by: Sphinx Magoo</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1335680</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1335680</guid>
					<description>DC did the whole ape thing ages ago. Nice to see Marvel finally catching up!

It's funny, but from the preview of the Spirit movie, the one time I felt they get the spirit of Will Eisner's Spirit was seeing Denny Colt jump onto the building rooftop and struggle to keep his balance as he moved from one side to the next. [i]That[/i] felt Eisner-esque!

That, and the spotlight design from the Spirit's hideout. (At first I forgot myself and thought &quot;Why'd they put Steve Ditko's Dr. Strange skylight there?&quot; Then I remembered. Duh!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC did the whole ape thing ages ago. Nice to see Marvel finally catching up!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, but from the preview of the Spirit movie, the one time I felt they get the spirit of Will Eisner&#8217;s Spirit was seeing Denny Colt jump onto the building rooftop and struggle to keep his balance as he moved from one side to the next. [i]That[/i] felt Eisner-esque!</p>
<p>That, and the spotlight design from the Spirit&#8217;s hideout. (At first I forgot myself and thought &#8220;Why&#8217;d they put Steve Ditko&#8217;s Dr. Strange skylight there?&#8221; Then I remembered. Duh!)
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		<title>by: Bill Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1333904</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1333904</guid>
					<description>Sorry guys, but this whole ape thing has &quot;Let's get loaded and think of some cool story ideas&quot; written all over it. 

&quot;Apes&quot; 



&quot;Yeah!  PLANET OF THE APES meets the Marvel Universe. Oh man - yeaah! I'm writing this down!!! This is soooo much better than that STAR TREK idea you had. Though I thought it was pretty groundbreaking to make Spock gay.&quot;



&quot;Dude - he's half alien. He's not gay, he's bi. &quot;

&quot;But would he screw an ape?&quot;

&quot;Write that down.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, but this whole ape thing has &#8220;Let&#8217;s get loaded and think of some cool story ideas&#8221; written all over it. </p>
<p>&#8220;Apes&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah!  PLANET OF THE APES meets the Marvel Universe. Oh man - yeaah! I&#8217;m writing this down!!! This is soooo much better than that STAR TREK idea you had. Though I thought it was pretty groundbreaking to make Spock gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dude - he&#8217;s half alien. He&#8217;s not gay, he&#8217;s bi. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But would he screw an ape?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Write that down.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Marcus Lusk</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1331267</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1331267</guid>
					<description>I'd be looking forward to THE SPIRIT if it were a new frank Miller property instead of the beloved Will Eisner strip.
I predict we're about to see the first Frank Miller flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be looking forward to THE SPIRIT if it were a new frank Miller property instead of the beloved Will Eisner strip.<br />
I predict we&#8217;re about to see the first Frank Miller flop.
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		<title>by: STWALLSKULL &#187; Interesting Links: April 21st, 2008</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1331235</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1331235</guid>
					<description>[...] Newsy bits from THE BEAT [...]</description>
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		<title>by: pulphope</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330958</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've read that Carmine Infantino used to have a rule about how many times a year a gorilla was allowed to appear on the cover of a DC Comic...they apparently had explicit market indication that putting a monkey/ape/primate on a comic book cover boosted sales, so he didn't want to overdo it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that Carmine Infantino used to have a rule about how many times a year a gorilla was allowed to appear on the cover of a DC Comic&#8230;they apparently had explicit market indication that putting a monkey/ape/primate on a comic book cover boosted sales, so he didn&#8217;t want to overdo it.
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330889</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Torsten,

I have nothing against creators trying to rip off popular works; only when they do it badly.  And sometimes even the bad versions are amusing, like William Castle's HOMICIDAL (imitation of PSYCHO).

But FANTASTIC FOUR seems more like, &quot;Let's launch this thing that looks a little bit like a popular thing (JLA) in the hope that it catches fire.&quot; That's more like, &quot;The horror movie genre is doing well, so let's do a horror movie.&quot;

Marvel's AVENGERS were certainly an attempt to copy the format of the JLA, not just the superhero-team genre, though it still had a number of interesting differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torsten,</p>
<p>I have nothing against creators trying to rip off popular works; only when they do it badly.  And sometimes even the bad versions are amusing, like William Castle&#8217;s HOMICIDAL (imitation of PSYCHO).</p>
<p>But FANTASTIC FOUR seems more like, &#8220;Let&#8217;s launch this thing that looks a little bit like a popular thing (JLA) in the hope that it catches fire.&#8221; That&#8217;s more like, &#8220;The horror movie genre is doing well, so let&#8217;s do a horror movie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marvel&#8217;s AVENGERS were certainly an attempt to copy the format of the JLA, not just the superhero-team genre, though it still had a number of interesting differences.
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		<title>by: Al</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330412</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330412</guid>
					<description>Can't see the Spirit trailer here, outside the US. Copyright and all that.</description>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330386</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1330386</guid>
					<description>Marvel, ripping off ideas from someone else?  I am SHOCKED.

Look...  the entire freaking Marvel Universe is based on the fact that Justice League (which was based on the Justice Society!) was selling so well!   Marvel, and every other comicbook publisher at the time, would see what sold, and rush out copies of their own.  Hollywood does this so often, no one blinks an eye (anyone else notice how the early Dreamworks animated features copied Disney's slate?) but many people yawn.  

It is an accepted business model.  The other guy makes money doing something, you take that idea and work it into your business.  Sometimes you get to innovate (like Marvel Zombies) and lead the way, and that's cool.  But Marvel doing apes?  Cool.  I'll look at it.  &quot;The Amazing Spider-Monkey&quot;?  &quot;The Silverbacked Surfer&quot;?  Maybe a universal crossover with the Peter Porker line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvel, ripping off ideas from someone else?  I am SHOCKED.</p>
<p>Look&#8230;  the entire freaking Marvel Universe is based on the fact that Justice League (which was based on the Justice Society!) was selling so well!   Marvel, and every other comicbook publisher at the time, would see what sold, and rush out copies of their own.  Hollywood does this so often, no one blinks an eye (anyone else notice how the early Dreamworks animated features copied Disney&#8217;s slate?) but many people yawn.  </p>
<p>It is an accepted business model.  The other guy makes money doing something, you take that idea and work it into your business.  Sometimes you get to innovate (like Marvel Zombies) and lead the way, and that&#8217;s cool.  But Marvel doing apes?  Cool.  I&#8217;ll look at it.  &#8220;The Amazing Spider-Monkey&#8221;?  &#8220;The Silverbacked Surfer&#8221;?  Maybe a universal crossover with the Peter Porker line?
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		<title>by: GimpSquadmarc</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1329281</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1329281</guid>
					<description>So Marvel keeps ripping off ideas,eh?</description>
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		<title>by: Jimmie Robinson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1327619</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1327619</guid>
					<description>The Joan Hilty link isn't working....
Me so sad.</description>
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Me so sad.
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		<title>by: Toby</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1326833</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If that's Milller being faithful to something, I'd hate to see what he does when he takes creative license. I haven't seen something that &quot;faithful&quot; since &quot;The Cat in the Hat!&quot;

Yup, that sound you hear is Will Eisner spinning in his grave with Dr. Seuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s Milller being faithful to something, I&#8217;d hate to see what he does when he takes creative license. I haven&#8217;t seen something that &#8220;faithful&#8221; since &#8220;The Cat in the Hat!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup, that sound you hear is Will Eisner spinning in his grave with Dr. Seuss.
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1326440</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the more I hear about the SPIRIT movie, the more it saddens me.

Thank goodness for the HELLBOY movie.</description>
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<p>Thank goodness for the HELLBOY movie.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1325735</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I attended the Spirit panel, and even though everyone was saying how they were true to Eisner's Spirit, what I saw on the screen was a brooding, dark, psychological character.  It looks like Frank Miller's Spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the Spirit panel, and even though everyone was saying how they were true to Eisner&#8217;s Spirit, what I saw on the screen was a brooding, dark, psychological character.  It looks like Frank Miller&#8217;s Spirit.
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		<title>by: Bill Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1325733</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1325733</guid>
					<description>Just when you think that maybe...maybe they AREN'T creatively bankrupt, they go apeshit...</description>
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		<title>by: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1324762</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is it me or does the Luke Cage ape have hands the size of a doll?</description>
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		<title>by: Fanboy Menace</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1323972</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can't wait for Venture S3 now!  Woo!</description>
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		<title>by: Jack Fear</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1323605</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would buy a PETER POOTER, THE FARTING SPIDER-MAN book in one hot minute.</description>
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		<title>by: Rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1322950</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The monkey/ape Wolverine looks oddly like Jeffrey Brown's interpretation of Wolvie.</description>
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		<title>by: Steven R. Stahl</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/04/20/newsy-bits/#comment-1322829</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don’t understand why anyone would buy more than one issue, if that, of Marvel’s heroes done as apes, because the premise is so flimsy, but then, I’ve never bought or even looked at the Marvel “Zombies” comics, for the same reason.

I wonder if anyone at Marvel has considered the similarities between their one-joke books and, say, the Kotzwinkle, Murray, and Colman picture book, WALTER THE FARTING DOG (http://www.amazon.com/Walter-Farting-Dog-William-Kotzwinkle/dp/1583940537 ). Small kids think Walter is hilarious, but then, every one of them is supposed to have an undeveloped sense of humor.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t understand why anyone would buy more than one issue, if that, of Marvel’s heroes done as apes, because the premise is so flimsy, but then, I’ve never bought or even looked at the Marvel “Zombies” comics, for the same reason.</p>
<p>I wonder if anyone at Marvel has considered the similarities between their one-joke books and, say, the Kotzwinkle, Murray, and Colman picture book, WALTER THE FARTING DOG (http://www.amazon.com/Walter-Farting-Dog-William-Kotzwinkle/dp/1583940537 ). Small kids think Walter is hilarious, but then, every one of them is supposed to have an undeveloped sense of humor.</p>
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