Comments on: Women in Comics! http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:22:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: rich http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1603989 Wed, 21 May 2008 15:12:02 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1603989 "Why do these things always have to treat their subjects with such a note of gross flattery?" It's the way of the world. Just listen to a person describe their children in print, or on a radio program. "I'm the mother/father of two beautiful/intelligent/creative/all of the above boys/girls ..." “Why do these things always have to treat their subjects with such a note of gross flattery?”

It’s the way of the world. Just listen to a person describe their children in print, or on a radio program. “I’m the mother/father of two beautiful/intelligent/creative/all of the above boys/girls …”

]]> by: Joe S. Walker http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1596646 Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:09 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1596646 "I recently had a conversation with 5 brilliant, creative, funny women who are up and coming (if not already established) in the world of comics...." Why do these things always have to treat their subjects with such a note of gross flattery? “I recently had a conversation with 5 brilliant, creative, funny women who are up and coming (if not already established) in the world of comics….”

Why do these things always have to treat their subjects with such a note of gross flattery?

]]> by: Amy Hadley http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1596273 Tue, 20 May 2008 19:50:35 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1596273 I really think women COULD like superhero comics; the problem is the concept and delivery. Sailor Moon is a superhero story, and that was FOR women (or girls). There are a lot of possibilities with superheroes; it's not about tights, it's modern mythology. But I don't think those possibilities have been explored very far. It's like these arbitrary rules have been put in place that limit the genre. But it's getting better. And has anyone else ever seen a female superhero and thought, "She looks like a drag queen"? Not always the case, but it's another thing to watch out for. It sort of says that the perfect woman is a man with boobs. In my opinion, high-cut leotards emphasize this look...I'll leave it to you to figure out why. I really think women COULD like superhero comics; the problem is the concept and delivery. Sailor Moon is a superhero story, and that was FOR women (or girls). There are a lot of possibilities with superheroes; it’s not about tights, it’s modern mythology. But I don’t think those possibilities have been explored very far. It’s like these arbitrary rules have been put in place that limit the genre. But it’s getting better.

And has anyone else ever seen a female superhero and thought, “She looks like a drag queen”? Not always the case, but it’s another thing to watch out for. It sort of says that the perfect woman is a man with boobs. In my opinion, high-cut leotards emphasize this look…I’ll leave it to you to figure out why.

]]> by: Women in Comics Roundtable » Comics Worth Reading http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1594920 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:48:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1594920 [...] Update: Based on the reactions and comments, talking about the issues that uniquely face women in comics is “pigeonholing” and plenty of women love superhero comcs — you just have to judge the gender’s tastes by the female friends who share the interest with you. (I’m kidding. I know some women read superhero comics; I used to be one of them. They’re just not the majority of the comic-buying market.) [...] […] Update: Based on the reactions and comments, talking about the issues that uniquely face women in comics is “pigeonholing” and plenty of women love superhero comcs — you just have to judge the gender’s tastes by the female friends who share the interest with you. (I’m kidding. I know some women read superhero comics; I used to be one of them. They’re just not the majority of the comic-buying market.) […]

]]> by: Women in Comics Roundtable » Comics Worth Reading http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1594918 Tue, 20 May 2008 15:48:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1594918 [...] Update: Based on the reactions and comments, talking about the issues that uniquely face women in comics is “pigeonholing” and plenty of women love superhero comcs — you just have to judge the gender’s tastes by the female friends who share the interest with you. (I’m kidding. I know some women read superhero comics; I used to be one of them. They’re just not the majority of the comic-buying market.) [...] […] Update: Based on the reactions and comments, talking about the issues that uniquely face women in comics is “pigeonholing” and plenty of women love superhero comcs — you just have to judge the gender’s tastes by the female friends who share the interest with you. (I’m kidding. I know some women read superhero comics; I used to be one of them. They’re just not the majority of the comic-buying market.) […]

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight @ Moo and Mer Magazine http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1590633 Tue, 20 May 2008 04:42:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1590633 "I don’t think men or women as a group make better entertainment … it all depends on the individual … " Exactly. I'm just speaking from my personal tastes in art. “I don’t think men or women as a group make better entertainment … it all depends on the individual … ”

Exactly. I’m just speaking from my personal tastes in art.

]]> by: Unpopular http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1589579 Tue, 20 May 2008 01:04:21 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1589579 Since so many women seem to have a problem with being pigeonholed, it's time for a "women in comics" panel that only has men on it. Since so many women seem to have a problem with being pigeonholed, it’s time for a “women in comics” panel that only has men on it.

]]> by: Cheryl Lynn http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1588511 Mon, 19 May 2008 21:55:55 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1588511 "Also of note is the discussion of why women don’t write or draw more superheroes." They do. On fanfiction and fan art sites. They just don't get paid for it. “Also of note is the discussion of why women don’t write or draw more superheroes.”

They do. On fanfiction and fan art sites. They just don’t get paid for it.

]]> by: michael http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1588431 Mon, 19 May 2008 21:38:46 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1588431 awesome! thanks for the link, H and crew! ;) but what happened? Julia did not answer the last question? O.O awesome! thanks for the link, H and crew! ;)

but what happened? Julia did not answer the last question? O.O

]]> by: rich http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587952 Mon, 19 May 2008 19:54:48 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587952 "It’s always been my feeling that women make for more interesting artist anyway. Well, 75% of the time. " Damn ... you might be praised for this forward thinking. If you said the opposite, though — that men made for more interesting artists — you'd be considered a misogynist. I don't think men or women as a group make better entertainment ... it all depends on the individual ... “It’s always been my feeling that women make for more interesting artist anyway. Well, 75% of the time. ”

Damn … you might be praised for this forward thinking. If you said the opposite, though — that men made for more interesting artists — you’d be considered a misogynist.

I don’t think men or women as a group make better entertainment … it all depends on the individual …

]]> by: Kenny http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587815 Mon, 19 May 2008 19:32:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587815 "While several of the respondents go for the accepted notion that girls just don’t like boy’s fantasies, this negates the huge female readership for a lot of shonen manga, which are just as boy-themed as superhero stuff. Could there be OTHER factors at play? Hmmmmmmmm…" I think you're taking a rather interesting leap of logic here, that shonen manga and superheroes are interchangeable. They're really not. While there are some books that could be considered to play in the superhero pool (Naruto, DragonBall Z, etc) there are just as many, if not more, that don't. Death Note is about as far from superheroes as you can get. One Piece is a pirate tale in the old pulp tradition. I think it's fair to say women, on the whole, aren't as interested in superheroes as men and therefore don't have the same desire as men to create superhero stories. But maybe I'm straying too far from the point? I dunno. “While several of the respondents go for the accepted notion that girls just don’t like boy’s fantasies, this negates the huge female readership for a lot of shonen manga, which are just as boy-themed as superhero stuff. Could there be OTHER factors at play? Hmmmmmmmm…”

I think you’re taking a rather interesting leap of logic here, that shonen manga and superheroes are interchangeable. They’re really not. While there are some books that could be considered to play in the superhero pool (Naruto, DragonBall Z, etc) there are just as many, if not more, that don’t. Death Note is about as far from superheroes as you can get. One Piece is a pirate tale in the old pulp tradition.

I think it’s fair to say women, on the whole, aren’t as interested in superheroes as men and therefore don’t have the same desire as men to create superhero stories. But maybe I’m straying too far from the point? I dunno.

]]> by: Christopher Moonlight @ Moo and Mer Magazine http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587482 Mon, 19 May 2008 18:20:35 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/05/19/women-in-comics-2/#comment-1587482 It's always been my feeling that women make for more interesting artist anyway. Well, 75% of the time. They seem to be willing to try out new ideas on things without the stanch attitude towards how hard core fans want things to be. I mean, there are men like that, too. Chuck Austen is one example of that. Maybe, they do less superhero books because a lot of people don't feel comfortable with the girls in their clubhouse. I know this has been said before of course, but I still hear stories, so I'll just say it again. I'm still working on the shonen manga thing. I personally still think that American comics are doing better over all in content, but again that's just me. I'm a boy and I'm still doing my "homework" on that one. It’s always been my feeling that women make for more interesting artist anyway. Well, 75% of the time. They seem to be willing to try out new ideas on things without the stanch attitude towards how hard core fans want things to be. I mean, there are men like that, too. Chuck Austen is one example of that. Maybe, they do less superhero books because a lot of people don’t feel comfortable with the girls in their clubhouse. I know this has been said before of course, but I still hear stories, so I’ll just say it again. I’m still working on the shonen manga thing. I personally still think that American comics are doing better over all in content, but again that’s just me. I’m a boy and I’m still doing my “homework” on that one.

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