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	<title>Comments on: Comics sales down in May</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: The Four Color Media Monitor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1793266</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Light at the end of the tunnel?...&lt;/strong&gt;

At the website of IO9 (via The Beat), while what they report is primarily a rumor, it may be that we're getting good news at last for DC...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Light at the end of the tunnel?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>At the website of IO9 (via The Beat), while what they report is primarily a rumor, it may be that we&#8217;re getting good news at last for DC&#8230;
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		<title>by: John Warren</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1786653</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1786653</guid>
					<description>There is some good news out there.  Am I allowed to say so on the internet?

Check out the new issue of Entertainment Weekly, in which they rank their top 100 &quot;books&quot; of the past 25 years.  The list includes several comics, including Maus (#7), Watchmen (#13), Persepolis (#37), and Sandman (#46). 

EW regularly mentions comics--a couple weeks ago there was even a reference to DC's new Trinity series.  You know, one of those American superhero comics....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some good news out there.  Am I allowed to say so on the internet?</p>
<p>Check out the new issue of Entertainment Weekly, in which they rank their top 100 &#8220;books&#8221; of the past 25 years.  The list includes several comics, including Maus (#7), Watchmen (#13), Persepolis (#37), and Sandman (#46). </p>
<p>EW regularly mentions comics&#8211;a couple weeks ago there was even a reference to DC&#8217;s new Trinity series.  You know, one of those American superhero comics&#8230;.
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		<title>by: John Jackson Miller</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1780532</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1780532</guid>
					<description>The estimates are up at Comichron...

http://www.comichron.com/Home/tabid/171/EntryID/237/Default.aspx

My initial &quot;overall&quot; guess for the month was high -- it's the year-to-date for which the DM is off about 2%. Something new is that we're now able to do 10-year comparatives for the trade paperbacks; the Top 25 trades in May 2008 outpaced the Top 25 in May 1998, $2.25 million to $934,000. There's some inflation in there and the product mix has changed some, but it shows the category's growth very visibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The estimates are up at Comichron&#8230;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.comichron.com/Home/tabid/171/EntryID/237/Default.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://www.comichron.com/Home/tabid/171/EntryID/237/Default.aspx</a></p>
<p>My initial &#8220;overall&#8221; guess for the month was high &#8212; it&#8217;s the year-to-date for which the DM is off about 2%. Something new is that we&#8217;re now able to do 10-year comparatives for the trade paperbacks; the Top 25 trades in May 2008 outpaced the Top 25 in May 1998, $2.25 million to $934,000. There&#8217;s some inflation in there and the product mix has changed some, but it shows the category&#8217;s growth very visibly.
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		<title>by: Wraith</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1778835</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1778835</guid>
					<description>Let's be honest for a minute. If it wasn't for stunts/gimmicks, the Big 2's sales would be even worse then they are now.

I said it before, and I'll keep saying it until the people running the Big 2 get it. Marvel and DC need to RETURN to making ALL of their IN CONTINUITY INTERCONNECTED MU AND DCU SUPERHERO TITLES (AND RELATED TITLES) both suitable for and appealing to a wide kids/all ages audience WITHOUT SUGAR COATING AND TALKING DOWN TO THE READERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest for a minute. If it wasn&#8217;t for stunts/gimmicks, the Big 2&#8217;s sales would be even worse then they are now.</p>
<p>I said it before, and I&#8217;ll keep saying it until the people running the Big 2 get it. Marvel and DC need to RETURN to making ALL of their IN CONTINUITY INTERCONNECTED MU AND DCU SUPERHERO TITLES (AND RELATED TITLES) both suitable for and appealing to a wide kids/all ages audience WITHOUT SUGAR COATING AND TALKING DOWN TO THE READERS.
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776897</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776897</guid>
					<description>Superhero comics ARE dead...and I'm a Zombie, which works out quite well. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superhero comics ARE dead&#8230;and I&#8217;m a Zombie, which works out quite well. <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Brian Davison</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776626</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776626</guid>
					<description>Kenny, you are a broken record because you post the same nonsense in just about every sales article.  If superhero comics are as &quot;dead&quot; as you would apparently like them to be, why are 38 of the top 40 comics for May 2008 superhero comics?  (The other two being THE DARK TOWER: LONG ROAD HOME and BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, you are a broken record because you post the same nonsense in just about every sales article.  If superhero comics are as &#8220;dead&#8221; as you would apparently like them to be, why are 38 of the top 40 comics for May 2008 superhero comics?  (The other two being THE DARK TOWER: LONG ROAD HOME and BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER)
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		<title>by: Ranald</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776164</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1776164</guid>
					<description>One thing no-one seems to have commented on is the steep 27.1% drop in Secret Invasion sales between the first and second month. For reference, Civil War recorded an 2.7% drop and WWH had a 12.9% drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing no-one seems to have commented on is the steep 27.1% drop in Secret Invasion sales between the first and second month. For reference, Civil War recorded an 2.7% drop and WWH had a 12.9% drop.
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		<title>by: brett</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1775800</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1775800</guid>
					<description>Buffy outsold Accessible Spider-Man.

Not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buffy outsold Accessible Spider-Man.</p>
<p>Not good.
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		<title>by: nvigneaux</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1772495</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1772495</guid>
					<description>Superhero comics dominate all other comics.  I don't see where you are looking to make that diagnosis of death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superhero comics dominate all other comics.  I don&#8217;t see where you are looking to make that diagnosis of death.
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		<title>by: God is tired of DC too</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1772407</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1772407</guid>
					<description>Kenny does sound like a broken record, but he's still right. 

These numbers don't surprise me. Do they expect the 40 year old fan (Babyman?) to still be reading this stuff when they are 80? Get some new blood in there and make these comics all ages and story accessible! I stopped reading this shit years ago. I buy trades and MAYBE 6 monthly books, and all of them are mostly Marvel Adventures stuff. I've been saying this for over 10 years...it's not going to be any better. I've seen well run comic stores that have no kids in them except for FCBD and that's one day per year...sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny does sound like a broken record, but he&#8217;s still right. </p>
<p>These numbers don&#8217;t surprise me. Do they expect the 40 year old fan (Babyman?) to still be reading this stuff when they are 80? Get some new blood in there and make these comics all ages and story accessible! I stopped reading this shit years ago. I buy trades and MAYBE 6 monthly books, and all of them are mostly Marvel Adventures stuff. I&#8217;ve been saying this for over 10 years&#8230;it&#8217;s not going to be any better. I&#8217;ve seen well run comic stores that have no kids in them except for FCBD and that&#8217;s one day per year&#8230;sad.
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		<title>by: Lawson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771582</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771582</guid>
					<description>For some reason, two things jumped out at me:

1. Marvel may be kicking DC's butt, but the Big Two are basically still crushing everyone else. They control 83 percent of the monthly sales. The only independently published comic to sell anywhere near the top was a four-color version of TV's popular &quot;Buffy the Vampre Slayer,&quot; by Dark Horse. The first Image comic didn't appear until no. 101; and Image controls a tiny 2.5 percent of the monthly market, which still makes it a leading indie publisher. ONI Press controls 0.04 percent of the monthly market.

2. The WATCHMEN trade sold more than 2,600 copies last month. It always interests me to see this comic continue to sell so well 20-plus years after it first appeared. And wait until the publicity for the movie really cranks up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, two things jumped out at me:</p>
<p>1. Marvel may be kicking DC&#8217;s butt, but the Big Two are basically still crushing everyone else. They control 83 percent of the monthly sales. The only independently published comic to sell anywhere near the top was a four-color version of TV&#8217;s popular &#8220;Buffy the Vampre Slayer,&#8221; by Dark Horse. The first Image comic didn&#8217;t appear until no. 101; and Image controls a tiny 2.5 percent of the monthly market, which still makes it a leading indie publisher. ONI Press controls 0.04 percent of the monthly market.</p>
<p>2. The WATCHMEN trade sold more than 2,600 copies last month. It always interests me to see this comic continue to sell so well 20-plus years after it first appeared. And wait until the publicity for the movie really cranks up.
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		<title>by: John Jackson Miller</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771569</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771569</guid>
					<description>The health (or lack of it) of the business does pretty much depend on the measure you're viewing, the range of information you're looking at, and what your expectations are for it.

One doesn't look at a rainy day and say the drought is over — so by the same token, I find it hard to locate the end of civilization in a couple of flat months, when overall the market is up 43% over the same period five years ago. But if you're looking to restore readership to what it was in the 1950s, yeah, you'd be searching for growth at a much different pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The health (or lack of it) of the business does pretty much depend on the measure you&#8217;re viewing, the range of information you&#8217;re looking at, and what your expectations are for it.</p>
<p>One doesn&#8217;t look at a rainy day and say the drought is over — so by the same token, I find it hard to locate the end of civilization in a couple of flat months, when overall the market is up 43% over the same period five years ago. But if you&#8217;re looking to restore readership to what it was in the 1950s, yeah, you&#8217;d be searching for growth at a much different pace.
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		<title>by: HerrMike</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771513</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1771513</guid>
					<description>Kenny, you do sound like a broken record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, you do sound like a broken record.
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		<title>by: Somebody</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770840</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770840</guid>
					<description>The CBR numbers are too high for the &quot;prev issue&quot; column as well, as compared to JM's numbers in his previous column (and icv2/JJM's numbers for last month). Whatever's happened, it's happened early on in the calculations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CBR numbers are too high for the &#8220;prev issue&#8221; column as well, as compared to JM&#8217;s numbers in his previous column (and icv2/JJM&#8217;s numbers for last month). Whatever&#8217;s happened, it&#8217;s happened early on in the calculations.
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		<title>by: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770390</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770390</guid>
					<description>I think I sound like a broken record, but American superhero comics are *dead*. There are no new readers and they can't keep the ones they have forever. I don't see how these numbers surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I sound like a broken record, but American superhero comics are *dead*. There are no new readers and they can&#8217;t keep the ones they have forever. I don&#8217;t see how these numbers surprise anyone.
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		<title>by: John Jackson Miller</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770287</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770287</guid>
					<description>&quot;ICV2’s numbers seem more realistic that the too high ones at CBR:&quot;

John and I were just talking about that -- he's looking again at his data set. I have SI #2 close to 182,500 across all variants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ICV2’s numbers seem more realistic that the too high ones at CBR:&#8221;</p>
<p>John and I were just talking about that &#8212; he&#8217;s looking again at his data set. I have SI #2 close to 182,500 across all variants.
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		<title>by: John Jackson Miller</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770268</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770268</guid>
					<description>My back-of-the-envelope swing at the figures shows overall sales — that's including all comics and trades Diamond sold in May — were right on $40 million:  off by 2%, or less than $1 million, versus a strong May 2007. (Underscoring just how things were last May, that month's overall sales were nearly $6 million above June 2007.) I suspect I'll find the same wider losses in the narrower categories like Top 300 comics and Top 100 trades, but if I'm figuring it right the DM is still running slightly ahead for the quarter when you include the backlist. 

I'll have all the various measures on Comichron.com and Newsarama soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My back-of-the-envelope swing at the figures shows overall sales — that&#8217;s including all comics and trades Diamond sold in May — were right on $40 million:  off by 2%, or less than $1 million, versus a strong May 2007. (Underscoring just how things were last May, that month&#8217;s overall sales were nearly $6 million above June 2007.) I suspect I&#8217;ll find the same wider losses in the narrower categories like Top 300 comics and Top 100 trades, but if I&#8217;m figuring it right the DM is still running slightly ahead for the quarter when you include the backlist. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have all the various measures on Comichron.com and Newsarama soon.
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		<title>by: jonathan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770265</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/18/comics-sales-down-in-may/#comment-1770265</guid>
					<description>ICV2's numbers seem more realistic that the too high ones at CBR:
SECRET INVASION #2 - 182,443
FINAL CRISIS #1 - 144,826</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICV2&#8217;s numbers seem more realistic that the too high ones at CBR:<br />
SECRET INVASION #2 - 182,443<br />
FINAL CRISIS #1 - 144,826
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