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	<title>Comments on: HANCOCK thoughts</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/</link>
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		<title>by: HANCOCK &#8212; let&#8217;s get spoileriffic &#124; This Too Will Pass</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1883817</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1883817</guid>
					<description>[...] Got it? Cool. If you want a review and some thoughts on Hancock that isn&amp;#8217;t spoiler&amp;#8217;iffic, check out Heidi MacDonald&amp;#8217;s. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Got it? Cool. If you want a review and some thoughts on Hancock that isn&#8217;t spoiler&#8217;iffic, check out Heidi MacDonald&#8217;s. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: HANCOCK &#8212; let&#8217;s get spoileriffic &#124; This Too Will Pass</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1883812</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1883812</guid>
					<description>[...] Got it? Cool. If you want a review and some thoughts on Hancock that isn&amp;#8217;t spoiler&amp;#8217;iffic, check out Heidi MacDonald&amp;#8217;s. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Got it? Cool. If you want a review and some thoughts on Hancock that isn&#8217;t spoiler&#8217;iffic, check out Heidi MacDonald&#8217;s. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: BradyDale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1873320</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1873320</guid>
					<description>Heidi:
Can we have a spoilers warning post? 
Cuz I just saw it, and I REALLY want to talk about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi:<br />
Can we have a spoilers warning post?<br />
Cuz I just saw it, and I REALLY want to talk about it.<br />
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		<title>by: Xenos</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1859210</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1859210</guid>
					<description>I've been disliking what I've heard of this film for a while now. To save space, I'll just link to a blog post I made with my nitpicks. IN particular I complain that the scummy fallen hero has already been done to perfection by Garth Ennis, as well as others, and this movie falls far short of those tales. Plus studio meddling to a large degree sounds involved.

(Warning some spoilers)
http://www.comics2film.com/b/index.php?blog=11&amp;#38;p=720&amp;#38;more=1&amp;#38;c=1&amp;#38;tb=1&amp;#38;pb=1

Of course a major complaint is right there above.  Akiva Goldsman.  How is that man still making superhero films or even any films? Plus I am Legend was a piece of crap with one of the worst Hollywood cop out endings I've ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been disliking what I&#8217;ve heard of this film for a while now. To save space, I&#8217;ll just link to a blog post I made with my nitpicks. IN particular I complain that the scummy fallen hero has already been done to perfection by Garth Ennis, as well as others, and this movie falls far short of those tales. Plus studio meddling to a large degree sounds involved.</p>
<p>(Warning some spoilers)<br />
<a href='http://www.comics2film.com/b/index.php?blog=11&amp;p=720&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1' rel='nofollow'>http://www.comics2film.com/b/index.php?blog=11&amp;p=720&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1</a></p>
<p>Of course a major complaint is right there above.  Akiva Goldsman.  How is that man still making superhero films or even any films? Plus I am Legend was a piece of crap with one of the worst Hollywood cop out endings I&#8217;ve ever seen.
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		<title>by: Pass on Hancock &#171; Funk Xero</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1848814</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1848814</guid>
					<description>[...] Pass on&amp;#160;Hancock   Nothing against Will Smith but I feel this article makes good points worth noting.   Why watch something you have to pay for when you can do it yourself?  Course the flaw of this is I think most stuff that comes out of Hollywood is garbage. The idea of them coming up with their own &amp;#8220;comic book heroes&amp;#8221; makes me want to vomit in convulsions. Just my 2 cents; think I will enjoy fireworks and cuddling at home instead. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Pass on&nbsp;Hancock   Nothing against Will Smith but I feel this article makes good points worth noting.   Why watch something you have to pay for when you can do it yourself?  Course the flaw of this is I think most stuff that comes out of Hollywood is garbage. The idea of them coming up with their own &#8220;comic book heroes&#8221; makes me want to vomit in convulsions. Just my 2 cents; think I will enjoy fireworks and cuddling at home instead. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Simon DelMonte</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1847521</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1847521</guid>
					<description>I actually liked the last two Goldsman/Smith collaborations, I Am Legend and i, Robot.  I still think Goldsman deserved to have his Oscar kept away from him for the Schumacher Batman films, but he's not that bad anymore.  Which doesn't mean Hancock is good.

Also, I liked Unbreakable a lot.  I think wouldn't exist without all the comic books that inspired it, though, so it's a weak example of Hollywood Superheroes Without Marvel and DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually liked the last two Goldsman/Smith collaborations, I Am Legend and i, Robot.  I still think Goldsman deserved to have his Oscar kept away from him for the Schumacher Batman films, but he&#8217;s not that bad anymore.  Which doesn&#8217;t mean Hancock is good.</p>
<p>Also, I liked Unbreakable a lot.  I think wouldn&#8217;t exist without all the comic books that inspired it, though, so it&#8217;s a weak example of Hollywood Superheroes Without Marvel and DC.
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		<title>by: Blog@Newsarama &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote, Unquote</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1846878</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1846878</guid>
					<description>[...] &amp;#8220;I’ve heard a few people say that HANCOCK is proof that soon Hollywood won’t need comic book stories for their superhero movies — they’ll just make up their own. The plot and premise here reminds me of what I would see back in the day when I was editing whenever some Hollywood guy or gal pitched me some ideas — they would be some kind of simple, deconstructed idea that would never get past the slush pile at Marvel or DC because they were so simple and direct — a regular man must deal with the effects of getting superpowers on his family (UNBREAKABLE), what if a superheroine dated a regular guy (MY SUPER EX-GIRLFRIEND), what if a superhero was a drunk (HANCOCK.) These simple, direct ideas are aimed at the largest audience possible, and it’s tempting to think that comics might find a wider audience if they went with such ideas…but I don’t think that’s the answer either.&amp;#8221; - Heidi MacDonald proving that Hollywood does not need a comic book to make a bad superhero film [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;I’ve heard a few people say that HANCOCK is proof that soon Hollywood won’t need comic book stories for their superhero movies — they’ll just make up their own. The plot and premise here reminds me of what I would see back in the day when I was editing whenever some Hollywood guy or gal pitched me some ideas — they would be some kind of simple, deconstructed idea that would never get past the slush pile at Marvel or DC because they were so simple and direct — a regular man must deal with the effects of getting superpowers on his family (UNBREAKABLE), what if a superheroine dated a regular guy (MY SUPER EX-GIRLFRIEND), what if a superhero was a drunk (HANCOCK.) These simple, direct ideas are aimed at the largest audience possible, and it’s tempting to think that comics might find a wider audience if they went with such ideas…but I don’t think that’s the answer either.&#8221; - Heidi MacDonald proving that Hollywood does not need a comic book to make a bad superhero film [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Cary Coatney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1838958</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1838958</guid>
					<description>You know Heidi, I've got a company BBQ in celebration of this movie's release on Thursday....

.... You're going to make me look bad.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Heidi, I&#8217;ve got a company BBQ in celebration of this movie&#8217;s release on Thursday&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. You&#8217;re going to make me look bad.</p>
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		<title>by: SwanShadow</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1838434</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1838434</guid>
					<description>“I think the title “Tonight, He Comes”, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.”

Like HANCOCK doesn't?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I think the title “Tonight, He Comes”, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.”</p>
<p>Like HANCOCK doesn&#8217;t?
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		<title>by: Andre</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1832168</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1832168</guid>
					<description>Go see Wall-E instead! And if you've seen it once, see it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go see Wall-E instead! And if you&#8217;ve seen it once, see it again!
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1831976</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>More interesting than seeing Hancock would be to see Will Smith in a porn flick with the unused title.</description>
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		<title>by: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1831511</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Really, all I needed was &quot;Akiva Goldsman&quot; to stay the hell away.

I'll be seeing Wall-E next weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, all I needed was &#8220;Akiva Goldsman&#8221; to stay the hell away.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be seeing Wall-E next weekend.
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		<title>by: Joe Lawler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1831196</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I think the title “Tonight, He Comes”, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.&quot;

That's true. My theory was more that the fact that it was at one point seriously considered by someone was a bad sign.

&quot;What's that? It could have a second meaning? I don't get it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the title “Tonight, He Comes”, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true. My theory was more that the fact that it was at one point seriously considered by someone was a bad sign.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s that? It could have a second meaning? I don&#8217;t get it.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Ian Brill</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830755</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830755</guid>
					<description>Abhay Kosla wrote recently on Savage Critics that when screenwriters are brought in for a &quot;fresh perspective&quot; on superheroes it's usually something we jaded fans have seen before (although Abhay observed that things aren't that simple).  

I watched the first season of Heroes on DVD and couldn't get over the fact that if this was a comic book it would be seen as fairly unremarkable.  Give it to the populace at large and it's something exciting and new.  

I'd like to see Hollywood try something like Seaguy or Enigma, some of the best deconstructions of the superhero genre I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abhay Kosla wrote recently on Savage Critics that when screenwriters are brought in for a &#8220;fresh perspective&#8221; on superheroes it&#8217;s usually something we jaded fans have seen before (although Abhay observed that things aren&#8217;t that simple).  </p>
<p>I watched the first season of Heroes on DVD and couldn&#8217;t get over the fact that if this was a comic book it would be seen as fairly unremarkable.  Give it to the populace at large and it&#8217;s something exciting and new.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Hollywood try something like Seaguy or Enigma, some of the best deconstructions of the superhero genre I can think of.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830131</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830131</guid>
					<description>I whited out a spoiler in Torsten's posts. 

I think the title &quot;Tonight, He Comes&quot;, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whited out a spoiler in Torsten&#8217;s posts. </p>
<p>I think the title &#8220;Tonight, He Comes&#8221;, proves that ALL movie execs were 13 years old once.
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		<title>by: BradyDale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830088</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830088</guid>
					<description>I liked MY SUPER EX and UNBREAKABLE a lot, I guess I'm a simpleton, but they were both clearly one-trick ponies and thank heavens there will never be sequels. I agree with your underlying point, Heidi... to really make franchises and build a universe, Hollywood has to keep turning to comics... the characters have been developing and changing and growing for 30 years... no amount of time in back room development can match that. 

As much as I like the movies above, they have nothing on the stuff based on the mean &amp;#38; potatoes of our cultural lives.

I'll go see HANCOCK, but it's just going to be a quick dose to keep my adrenaline going through the IRON MAN, HULK, WANTED, hancock, HELLBOY, BATMAN orgy that is this Summer. 

Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked MY SUPER EX and UNBREAKABLE a lot, I guess I&#8217;m a simpleton, but they were both clearly one-trick ponies and thank heavens there will never be sequels. I agree with your underlying point, Heidi&#8230; to really make franchises and build a universe, Hollywood has to keep turning to comics&#8230; the characters have been developing and changing and growing for 30 years&#8230; no amount of time in back room development can match that. </p>
<p>As much as I like the movies above, they have nothing on the stuff based on the mean &amp; potatoes of our cultural lives.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go see HANCOCK, but it&#8217;s just going to be a quick dose to keep my adrenaline going through the IRON MAN, HULK, WANTED, hancock, HELLBOY, BATMAN orgy that is this Summer. </p>
<p>Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta.
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		<title>by: Joe Lawler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830034</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1830034</guid>
					<description>&quot;I think Will Smith is the Jay-Z of movies, so yeah, I’ll be there regardless.&quot;

I could see that, but it has the exact opposite effect on me.

&quot;Tonight, He Comes&quot; is one of those movie titles that proves that movie executives were never 13 year olds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Will Smith is the Jay-Z of movies, so yeah, I’ll be there regardless.&#8221;</p>
<p>I could see that, but it has the exact opposite effect on me.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tonight, He Comes&#8221; is one of those movie titles that proves that movie executives were never 13 year olds.
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1829984</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1829984</guid>
					<description>Wait!!! There was a Thor movie??!!!?</description>
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		<title>by: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1829776</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think Will Smith is the Jay-Z of movies, so yeah, I'll be there regardless. 

From what I understand, the original script was called, &quot;Tonight, He Comes.&quot; I've heard it's a million flavors of awesome. You may want to look for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Will Smith is the Jay-Z of movies, so yeah, I&#8217;ll be there regardless. </p>
<p>From what I understand, the original script was called, &#8220;Tonight, He Comes.&#8221; I&#8217;ve heard it&#8217;s a million flavors of awesome. You may want to look for it.
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		<title>by: Derek Coward</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1829749</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow, I thought I was the only one who cringed whenever they saw Akiva Goldsman had anything to do with a film.</description>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/27/hancock-thoughts/#comment-1829652</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I saw a sneak preview a week ago.   It does change drastically halfway through.   

It had some interesting ideas, but like I Am Legend, it didn't develop them.  Why is he an alcoholic?  Why is he so angry?  Then one movie ends, and the next begins, and that isn't developed very well.  &lt;font color = &quot;white&quot;&gt;The second part would have been better if they had taken the Unbreakable twist ending and applied it to Charlize Theron's character. &lt;/font&gt; 

It will have a good opening, but I think it will drop off once people realize their preconceptions aren't what the movie delivers.

Hancock drinking game: each person in your party reads a random review from Rotten Tomatoes.  Take a shot if &quot;Batman &amp;#38; Robin&quot; or &quot;Last Action Hero&quot; is mentioned.  

The reason Hollywood enjoys a simple, deconstructed plot is because it is easy to sell to the public, to boil down to a tagline on a poster or ad, to make the viewer remember the movie and want to go see it.  But some of the best comics do that, too.  (What if Superman's rocket ship landed in Soviet Russia?  What if the supervillains won, and have been secretly controlling the planet for the past forty years?  A man and his pet monkey are the last males on earth.  A group of humans in spaceships search for Home.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a sneak preview a week ago.   It does change drastically halfway through.   </p>
<p>It had some interesting ideas, but like I Am Legend, it didn&#8217;t develop them.  Why is he an alcoholic?  Why is he so angry?  Then one movie ends, and the next begins, and that isn&#8217;t developed very well.  <font color = "white">The second part would have been better if they had taken the Unbreakable twist ending and applied it to Charlize Theron&#8217;s character. </font> </p>
<p>It will have a good opening, but I think it will drop off once people realize their preconceptions aren&#8217;t what the movie delivers.</p>
<p>Hancock drinking game: each person in your party reads a random review from Rotten Tomatoes.  Take a shot if &#8220;Batman &amp; Robin&#8221; or &#8220;Last Action Hero&#8221; is mentioned.  </p>
<p>The reason Hollywood enjoys a simple, deconstructed plot is because it is easy to sell to the public, to boil down to a tagline on a poster or ad, to make the viewer remember the movie and want to go see it.  But some of the best comics do that, too.  (What if Superman&#8217;s rocket ship landed in Soviet Russia?  What if the supervillains won, and have been secretly controlling the planet for the past forty years?  A man and his pet monkey are the last males on earth.  A group of humans in spaceships search for Home.)
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