Comments on: Who’s buying Wowio? Platinum http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:39:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Greg Boone http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1872851 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:38:41 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1872851 I agree with Scott Christian Sava. He's proven himself a super professional. I've been in comics and mainstream illustration for 30 years and have seen every form of publishing plus and minus you can name and then some. The internet has been a freedom to me as I can publish what I want when I want to and make good money at it for over decade now. Don't have to deal with neurotic or annoying bad tempered publishers and editors and the rip off factor at a minimum. Someone doesn't want to publish your book you can put it online or publish it yourself. The options have never been greater because it only takes one email to get your work seen by millions whereas before in the old boys club you had to hope or pay a bribe or something. The internet is making multi-millionaires out of enterprising talented people and that's good. We need more of it. If talent teams up we can help one another in ways unheard of before. Any company or resource that helps is a plus. It's good to be patient and observant. That keeps the crooks and exploiters on the run and gives law enforcement the extra tools they need to go after evil doers. I agree with Scott Christian Sava. He’s proven himself a super professional. I’ve been in comics and mainstream illustration for 30 years and have seen every form of publishing plus and minus you can name and then some.

The internet has been a freedom to me as I can publish what I want when I want to and make good money at it for over decade now. Don’t have to deal with neurotic or annoying bad tempered publishers and editors and the rip off factor at a minimum.

Someone doesn’t want to publish your book you can put it online or publish it yourself. The options have never been greater because it only takes one email to get your work seen by millions whereas before in the old boys club you had to hope or pay a bribe or something.

The internet is making multi-millionaires out of enterprising talented people and that’s good. We need more of it. If talent teams up we can help one another in ways unheard of before.

Any company or resource that helps is a plus. It’s good to be patient and observant. That keeps the crooks and exploiters on the run and gives law enforcement the extra tools they need to go after evil doers.

]]> by: Scott Christian Sava http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1861033 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:29:45 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1861033 The problem with people saying "this (companies lying, cheating, and stealing) has been going on in the industry for years" is... Yes it has. But that's what's so great about the internet. We can now AVOID those companies because we can find out BEFORE we sign deals with them. If no one SAYS anything. They're being NEGLIGENT. If Platinum has financial issues. If Wowio has financial issues. The right thing to do is make this public. This is not a rumor mill. People aren't gossiping. This is people's lives we're talking about. I appreciate everyone who stands up and lets the rest of us know who's paying on time. Who's not. Who's a thief and a liar. Who's honest. We have all of this information at our disposal. We're able to communicate with other creators instantly. We should use it to our advantage. The problem with people saying “this (companies lying, cheating, and stealing) has been going on in the industry for years” is…
Yes it has.

But that’s what’s so great about the internet. We can now AVOID those companies because we can find out BEFORE we sign deals with them.

If no one SAYS anything. They’re being NEGLIGENT.

If Platinum has financial issues. If Wowio has financial issues. The right thing to do is make this public.

This is not a rumor mill. People aren’t gossiping. This is people’s lives we’re talking about.

I appreciate everyone who stands up and lets the rest of us know who’s paying on time. Who’s not. Who’s a thief and a liar. Who’s honest.

We have all of this information at our disposal. We’re able to communicate with other creators instantly. We should use it to our advantage.

]]> by: Chris Crosby http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1860897 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:11:57 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1860897 No. No.

]]> by: Steve Horton http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1860580 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:29:46 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1860580 Is it Bobby Crosby? Is it Bobby Crosby?

]]> by: BurnOut http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1859242 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:01:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1859242 Why do I think Bobby S. is somebody from Platinum or Wowio? Why do I think Bobby S. is somebody from Platinum or Wowio?

]]> by: Bobby S. http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858651 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:22:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858651 Why dont you just wait and see what happens. Since most of you are scared and crying like little babies, pull your books if you think it is going to be bad. The DJ Coffman story has got everyone nervous, but this stuff has been going on with businesses (and not just Platinum) for years. We dont know the whole story, only what he said and that is based only on his word. And we know how good someones word is, especially on the internet." I have a bridge for sale, in SF, really". Any buyers? The bottom line, read your contracts and dont sign your artwork away for quick money. Work hard and maybe you will get noticed. Wowio could come out far better than it was. Blaming Platinum, because your scared of what could happen, is just nervious nellies responding to the news. Call them with your questions if your so inclined. Why dont you just wait and see what happens. Since most of you are scared and crying like little babies, pull your books if you think it is going to be bad. The DJ Coffman story has got everyone nervous, but this stuff has been going on with businesses (and not just Platinum) for years. We dont know the whole story, only what he said and that is based only on his word. And we know how good someones word is, especially on the internet.” I have a bridge for sale, in SF, really”. Any buyers? The bottom line, read your contracts and dont sign your artwork away for quick money. Work hard and maybe you will get noticed.
Wowio could come out far better than it was. Blaming Platinum, because your scared of what could happen, is just nervious nellies responding to the news. Call them with your questions if your so inclined.

]]> by: Scott Bieser http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858480 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:41:47 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858480 Man oh man. We (Big Head Press) had just signed the preliminary agreement with Wowio a couple of weeks ago. Haven't proceeded with any particular books yet. We'll just have to wait and see how this shakes out. Man oh man. We (Big Head Press) had just signed the preliminary agreement with Wowio a couple of weeks ago. Haven’t proceeded with any particular books yet. We’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out.

]]> by: Dee http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858063 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:18:12 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1858063 Let's hear what DJ Coffman has to say... Let’s hear what DJ Coffman has to say…

]]> by: Lea Hernandez http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856902 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:51:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856902 Dammit, I wish I'd put Cathedral Child on Wowio. I'd have gotten shit tons of that VC they burned. BLEAH. Dammit, I wish I’d put Cathedral Child on Wowio. I’d have gotten shit tons of that VC they burned. BLEAH.

]]> by: Jose Quervo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856882 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:49:37 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856882 I have had my books up on Wowio for 4 going on 5 months and haven't been paid yet. When are you supposed to be paid again?? I have had my books up on Wowio for 4 going on 5 months and haven’t been paid yet. When are you supposed to be paid again??

]]> by: Scott Christian Sava http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856799 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:23:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1856799 Yeah... Wowio paying Platinum 7 figures to BUY their company? That's just insane. I know Wowio has financial troubles...and Platinum has financial troubles. So how does this benefit the publishers who need reassurances they're going to get their payments? I've generated about $40,000 from them in the last year with no advertising. Just fans downloading for fun. I've really held off on doing any real push because Mike S. Miller gets 20% of the money as kickbacks and he's...well....the devil. This just isn't looking good...and with no word from anyone from Wowio...it's tough to get a bead on things. Yeah…
Wowio paying Platinum 7 figures to BUY their company?
That’s just insane.

I know Wowio has financial troubles…and Platinum has financial troubles.

So how does this benefit the publishers who need reassurances they’re going to get their payments?

I’ve generated about $40,000 from them in the last year with no advertising. Just fans downloading for fun.

I’ve really held off on doing any real push because Mike S. Miller gets 20% of the money as kickbacks and he’s…well….the devil.

This just isn’t looking good…and with no word from anyone from Wowio…it’s tough to get a bead on things.

]]> by: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » July 1, 2008: A guy who you should love http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1854989 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:48:49 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1854989 [...] “with what?” - Bill Cunningham [...] […] “with what?” - Bill Cunningham […]

]]> by: Evan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1851895 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:46:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1851895 Rich Johnston has more info on the potential sale: LOL interesting to see Wowio is paying Platinum to buy them. (At least that's sure how it reads to me.) Rich Johnston has more info on the potential sale:

LOL interesting to see Wowio is paying Platinum to buy them. (At least that’s sure how it reads to me.)

]]> by: Joey Manley http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1851138 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:44:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1851138 Alan -- My understanding was that IDW had recently been purchased by a company named IDT. IDT seems to be positioning itself as a leader in digital media. It also seems to be on a bit of a spending spree. Here for example: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=122304 If the deal fell through or something, I dunno. Or maybe ITD is something different from IDW's past? Or something? Alan — My understanding was that IDW had recently been purchased by a company named IDT. IDT seems to be positioning itself as a leader in digital media. It also seems to be on a bit of a spending spree.

Here for example:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=122304

If the deal fell through or something, I dunno. Or maybe ITD is something different from IDW’s past? Or something?

]]> by: HABE http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850500 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:24:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850500 As a side issue, it says a lot that so many people react in horror at the thought of Platinum getting involved in anything like it's the kiss of death. I suspect the reaction would have been the same even before the current nonpayment/creator's rights issues. This is major trouble from a PR standpoint, and I don't see Platinum making any attempts to untarnish its image. It might already be too late. As a side issue, it says a lot that so many people react in horror at the thought of Platinum getting involved in anything like it’s the kiss of death. I suspect the reaction would have been the same even before the current nonpayment/creator’s rights issues.

This is major trouble from a PR standpoint, and I don’t see Platinum making any attempts to untarnish its image. It might already be too late.

]]> by: Lea Hernandez http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850430 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:15:21 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850430 I was kind of wondering the same thing: that Platipop's finances were tight because of a possible buy. I was kind of wondering the same thing: that Platipop’s finances were tight because of a possible buy.

]]> by: Anonymous Freelancer(s) http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850332 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:53:57 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850332 Hey, Bill, Given they haven't paid many of us in six months, I suspect they're using THAT money. Hey, Bill, Given they haven’t paid many of us in six months, I suspect they’re using THAT money.

]]> by: Bill Cunningham http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850298 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:46:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850298 "Platinum is negotiating to buy WOWIO..." with what? (cross posted at Newsarama) “Platinum is negotiating to buy WOWIO…”

with what?

(cross posted at Newsarama)

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850094 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:02:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850094 Key words---contracts will be re-written. Bohica. Key words—contracts will be re-written. Bohica.

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850031 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:51:12 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/06/30/whos-buying-wowio-platinum/#comment-1850031 Joey Manley mentioned ITW/IDT. Aren't they separate now? Or is this referring to their past? Joey Manley mentioned ITW/IDT.

Aren’t they separate now? Or is this referring to their past?

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