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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t drink at the Hyatt</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/</link>
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		<title>by: Hyatt PR gaffe goes viral, global &#124; edit30 ...insight for business communicators</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-3641761</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] And if the Boston-gone-global fiasco weren’t enough to damage the IPO, on the left coast PublishersWeekly.com reports: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And if the Boston-gone-global fiasco weren’t enough to damage the IPO, on the left coast PublishersWeekly.com reports: [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: AndrewTunney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2087591</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2087591</guid>
					<description>Well, dang... I went to the Hyatt, got pretty nicely drunk, hung out with my friends who I only get to see once a year, had a great time and met Joss Whedon.  

Does that make me (and Joss too I guess) some kind of terrible wrong person?

If it makes it any better though, I didn't tip.  But that's because I'm English and I just forgot :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, dang&#8230; I went to the Hyatt, got pretty nicely drunk, hung out with my friends who I only get to see once a year, had a great time and met Joss Whedon.  </p>
<p>Does that make me (and Joss too I guess) some kind of terrible wrong person?</p>
<p>If it makes it any better though, I didn&#8217;t tip.  But that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m English and I just forgot <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: taking tiger mountain &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oh Hai, Internet. I See You Were Here While I Was Out - Post Comicon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2075110</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2075110</guid>
					<description>[...] Anyhoo, I was drinking a solitary whiskey on the rocks of the evening, sitting outside at the Hyatt (yeah, too lazy to adhere to the boycott&amp;#8230;it&amp;#8217;s ok I didn&amp;#8217;t pay for the drink) checking Google Analytics out of nervous boredom. Thanks primarily to Demi of This Next and her massive Stumbleupon influence, I found myself with a sizable spike in traffic. Moments later, my friend Andrew came running up looking like he&amp;#8217;d witnessed the birth of his child, when he&amp;#8217;d actually bumped into a slightly inebriated Joss Whedon *and* had a chance to chat with him. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Anyhoo, I was drinking a solitary whiskey on the rocks of the evening, sitting outside at the Hyatt (yeah, too lazy to adhere to the boycott&#8230;it&#8217;s ok I didn&#8217;t pay for the drink) checking Google Analytics out of nervous boredom. Thanks primarily to Demi of This Next and her massive Stumbleupon influence, I found myself with a sizable spike in traffic. Moments later, my friend Andrew came running up looking like he&#8217;d witnessed the birth of his child, when he&#8217;d actually bumped into a slightly inebriated Joss Whedon *and* had a chance to chat with him. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: JWH</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2012966</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2012966</guid>
					<description>If they don't buy any drinks there...so they aren't supporting the ass...and they are keeping paying customers from having a spot to sit and patronize the establishment...how are they not striking some sort of blow and are only keeping themselves from feeling like they are compromising their principles (with the implication clear that you think they are eschewing principles altogether)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they don&#8217;t buy any drinks there&#8230;so they aren&#8217;t supporting the ass&#8230;and they are keeping paying customers from having a spot to sit and patronize the establishment&#8230;how are they not striking some sort of blow and are only keeping themselves from feeling like they are compromising their principles (with the implication clear that you think they are eschewing principles altogether)?
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		<title>by: David Campbell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2012376</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2012376</guid>
					<description>But if nobody knows it's a protest, it's not a protest.  

I think some people just want to hang out at the Hyatt bar with their friends and pros but feel guilty about it, so instead of a) really protesting or b) going to one of the dozens of much cooler bars in San Diego instead, they've come up with this idea so they can drink there without feeling like they're compromising their principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if nobody knows it&#8217;s a protest, it&#8217;s not a protest.  </p>
<p>I think some people just want to hang out at the Hyatt bar with their friends and pros but feel guilty about it, so instead of a) really protesting or b) going to one of the dozens of much cooler bars in San Diego instead, they&#8217;ve come up with this idea so they can drink there without feeling like they&#8217;re compromising their principles.
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		<title>by: JWH</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2011664</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2011664</guid>
					<description>Ummm...Mr. Campbell, I actually think that would be a form of protesting. Just make sure to tip the servers as long as you're taking up space from other customers and it's copacetic and protesterrific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;Mr. Campbell, I actually think that would be a form of protesting. Just make sure to tip the servers as long as you&#8217;re taking up space from other customers and it&#8217;s copacetic and protesterrific.
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		<title>by: David Campbell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2010717</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2010717</guid>
					<description>Boycott?  Absolutely.  But don't show up at the Hyatt with your own booze and take up space that could be taken up by paying customers - that's not protesting, that's just being an asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott?  Absolutely.  But don&#8217;t show up at the Hyatt with your own booze and take up space that could be taken up by paying customers - that&#8217;s not protesting, that&#8217;s just being an asshole.
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		<title>by: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2010645</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2010645</guid>
					<description>I am in full agreement with the boycott. I wont be spending my money at the Hyatt. But if you do still go, don't try to boycott by not tipping your server. They have nothing to do with Doug Manchesters donation, they are just making a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in full agreement with the boycott. I wont be spending my money at the Hyatt. But if you do still go, don&#8217;t try to boycott by not tipping your server. They have nothing to do with Doug Manchesters donation, they are just making a living.
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		<title>by: kalinara</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2009455</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2009455</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;The vast majority of people don’t want to see a bunch of angry nerds yelling and waving signs outside of their hotel room&lt;/i&gt;

So...this would be a protest that would annoy the Hyatt customers, possibly drive away or negatively impair Hyatt's business, give them bad publicity and would make them uncomfortable.  You're right.  God forbid people be made uncomfortable by a protest!

I think you may have missed the point of the whole endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The vast majority of people don’t want to see a bunch of angry nerds yelling and waving signs outside of their hotel room</i></p>
<p>So&#8230;this would be a protest that would annoy the Hyatt customers, possibly drive away or negatively impair Hyatt&#8217;s business, give them bad publicity and would make them uncomfortable.  You&#8217;re right.  God forbid people be made uncomfortable by a protest!</p>
<p>I think you may have missed the point of the whole endeavor.
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		<title>by: Ken Lowery</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2009027</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2009027</guid>
					<description>This is the stupidest, most cowardly and pathetic thread I have ever read.

Spurgeon was funny, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the stupidest, most cowardly and pathetic thread I have ever read.</p>
<p>Spurgeon was funny, though.
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		<title>by: jordan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2004645</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-2004645</guid>
					<description>Hmmmm. Finally a hotel worth respecting. Glad I'm stayin there. Good place really. Nice, comfy with big fluffy pillow and donate to causes they feel strong about. 
I go to alot of places that give to causes that I could care less about.( &quot;Save the slugs&quot;, &quot;eat dirt save a cow&quot;, &quot;Shower less save more water&quot;). 

You know..all those idiotic leftist causes. But if I like the product, why wouldnt I frequent those places. Well...cause I'm ACTUALLY tolerant while I preach it less. While others (apparently our hostest included- sadly) PREACHES it and practices it less. 

I'll not only make a point to frequent the Hyatt MORE, but will promote it every chance I get. 

THANKS! AND HAVE GREAT CON EVERYONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm. Finally a hotel worth respecting. Glad I&#8217;m stayin there. Good place really. Nice, comfy with big fluffy pillow and donate to causes they feel strong about.<br />
I go to alot of places that give to causes that I could care less about.( &#8220;Save the slugs&#8221;, &#8220;eat dirt save a cow&#8221;, &#8220;Shower less save more water&#8221;). </p>
<p>You know..all those idiotic leftist causes. But if I like the product, why wouldnt I frequent those places. Well&#8230;cause I&#8217;m ACTUALLY tolerant while I preach it less. While others (apparently our hostest included- sadly) PREACHES it and practices it less. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll not only make a point to frequent the Hyatt MORE, but will promote it every chance I get. </p>
<p>THANKS! AND HAVE GREAT CON EVERYONE.
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		<title>by: ~chris</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1957698</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1957698</guid>
					<description>You mean GET A CALIFORNIAN TO VOTE &lt;b&gt;NO&lt;/b&gt; ON THIS. :)

Chris (a &lt;i&gt;Local&lt;/i&gt; ;) Californian non-liberal who believes in the separation of marriage and state)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean GET A CALIFORNIAN TO VOTE <b>NO</b> ON THIS. <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Chris (a <i>Local</i> <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Californian non-liberal who believes in the separation of marriage and state)
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		<title>by: Brian Wood</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1957034</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1957034</guid>
					<description>I will also say one last thing:

The Prop 8 is going to a vote.  The best thing anyone can do, the most effective and immediate influence anyone can have is not a boycott, not a fundraiser, not a protest, not a wedding... but rather GET A CALIFORNIAN TO VOTE ON THIS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will also say one last thing:</p>
<p>The Prop 8 is going to a vote.  The best thing anyone can do, the most effective and immediate influence anyone can have is not a boycott, not a fundraiser, not a protest, not a wedding&#8230; but rather GET A CALIFORNIAN TO VOTE ON THIS.
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		<title>by: Jarod</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1953052</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Katherine,

I'm not sure what &quot;teh ghey&quot; is, but my problem would be with some kind of visual demonstration at the Hyatt.  The vast majority of people don't want to see a bunch of angry nerds yelling and waving signs outside of their hotel room.  Prism Comics has a booth inside the show, and they are probably looked upon by most people as any other independent publisher.  There's a huge difference between a legitimate business at a booth inside a convention center and a bunch of obnoxious protesters marching outside your hotel.

The best way to voice your concern would be to not give the Hyatt your business, like many others have said.  Protesters only make people angry, and not for the right reasons.  People who see protesters waiving signs won't care one ounce what some CEO decides to do with his money.  The only thing they will get angry about is that they have to wade through a bunch of angry nerds if they want to go to their room.

That's what would drive families (and many other people) from the show.  Just tell your friends not to go the Hyatt bar for drinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;teh ghey&#8221; is, but my problem would be with some kind of visual demonstration at the Hyatt.  The vast majority of people don&#8217;t want to see a bunch of angry nerds yelling and waving signs outside of their hotel room.  Prism Comics has a booth inside the show, and they are probably looked upon by most people as any other independent publisher.  There&#8217;s a huge difference between a legitimate business at a booth inside a convention center and a bunch of obnoxious protesters marching outside your hotel.</p>
<p>The best way to voice your concern would be to not give the Hyatt your business, like many others have said.  Protesters only make people angry, and not for the right reasons.  People who see protesters waiving signs won&#8217;t care one ounce what some CEO decides to do with his money.  The only thing they will get angry about is that they have to wade through a bunch of angry nerds if they want to go to their room.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what would drive families (and many other people) from the show.  Just tell your friends not to go the Hyatt bar for drinks.
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		<title>by: Chip Mosher</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951621</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951621</guid>
					<description>If going to SDCC for the last 20 years (I missed maybe 5 years) has taught me ANYTHING it is to celebrate the diversity of the industry and the human race in general. I find comic folks some of the most tolerate and open people and industry around. It's why our DRINK UP is open to everyone. Which is now more relevant than before. 

I don't understand those who aren't tolerate - but I won't be intolerant to them. Look forward to seeing you all at the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If going to SDCC for the last 20 years (I missed maybe 5 years) has taught me ANYTHING it is to celebrate the diversity of the industry and the human race in general. I find comic folks some of the most tolerate and open people and industry around. It&#8217;s why our DRINK UP is open to everyone. Which is now more relevant than before. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand those who aren&#8217;t tolerate - but I won&#8217;t be intolerant to them. Look forward to seeing you all at the show.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951473</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry, Eric, I noticed it, too; I even have a master's in history so it's pretty inexcusable. Plus I lived in Lancaster for two years! Ridiculous.

In my defense, I was writing really quickly so I could get back to plotting the downfall of working class people.

I am sure if we looked hard enough all the owners of all the hotels hold some political view with which we do not agree. And that they all have people working for them in some capacity who need the money. I can't imagine anything more beside the point, but I also can't imagine anything more Sisyphean than convincing the people that think these are relevant points otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Eric, I noticed it, too; I even have a master&#8217;s in history so it&#8217;s pretty inexcusable. Plus I lived in Lancaster for two years! Ridiculous.</p>
<p>In my defense, I was writing really quickly so I could get back to plotting the downfall of working class people.</p>
<p>I am sure if we looked hard enough all the owners of all the hotels hold some political view with which we do not agree. And that they all have people working for them in some capacity who need the money. I can&#8217;t imagine anything more beside the point, but I also can&#8217;t imagine anything more Sisyphean than convincing the people that think these are relevant points otherwise.
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		<title>by: Katherine Keller</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951292</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951292</guid>
					<description>Jarod,

Is your problem with the protest or with teh ghey?

Because &lt;a href=&quot;http://prismcomics.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prism Comics has had a booth at the con for over 5 years now and con attendance certainly hasn't suffered because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarod,</p>
<p>Is your problem with the protest or with teh ghey?</p>
<p>Because <a href="http://prismcomics.org/" rel="nofollow">Prism Comics has had a booth at the con for over 5 years now and con attendance certainly hasn&#8217;t suffered because of it.
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		<title>by: Katie Moody</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951092</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951092</guid>
					<description>Also re: family friendliness, this is a BAR we're talking about, after all. I doubt many parents were planning to spirit their minors in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also re: family friendliness, this is a BAR we&#8217;re talking about, after all. I doubt many parents were planning to spirit their minors in.
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		<title>by: ericshanower</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951044</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's &lt;i&gt;Alexander&lt;/i&gt; Hamilton, not Andrew. And how appropriate a name to bring up in this context.</description>
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		<title>by: Pia Guerra</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1951033</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm also going to offer rev duties, card carrying minster here, and I believe it can be used in Cali.  

As for the ridiculous notion that a gay pride night will scare families away, c'mon, the whole point of gay marriage is to promote stable relationships by ensuring equal coverage under the law, from consent to property sharing to custody these laws can only make families stronger.  Did you know there are cases out there where relatives have seized children and property against the wishes of deceased gay family members in committed relationships?  These laws protect families in the event of divorce, illness and death, give them better footing to adopt and countless other rights.  Gay Pride isn't just about drag queens and butless chaps (though yummy) it's about working towards a society that accepts people as they are, yknow, that whole judging by the content of character thing?  Families should be embracing this.

And let's not forget there's a sizable chunk of the comics community who these laws directly affect.  The happier we can make our community the more we can enjoy from this community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also going to offer rev duties, card carrying minster here, and I believe it can be used in Cali.  </p>
<p>As for the ridiculous notion that a gay pride night will scare families away, c&#8217;mon, the whole point of gay marriage is to promote stable relationships by ensuring equal coverage under the law, from consent to property sharing to custody these laws can only make families stronger.  Did you know there are cases out there where relatives have seized children and property against the wishes of deceased gay family members in committed relationships?  These laws protect families in the event of divorce, illness and death, give them better footing to adopt and countless other rights.  Gay Pride isn&#8217;t just about drag queens and butless chaps (though yummy) it&#8217;s about working towards a society that accepts people as they are, yknow, that whole judging by the content of character thing?  Families should be embracing this.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget there&#8217;s a sizable chunk of the comics community who these laws directly affect.  The happier we can make our community the more we can enjoy from this community.
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		<title>by: Ian Brill</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950812</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Universal LIFE Church.  Sheesh, me posting before coffee, huh?</description>
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		<title>by: Ian Brill</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950734</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm a certified reverend in the Universal Light Church and I would be happy to marry any gay couples at our party.  

Seriously.</description>
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<p>Seriously.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950339</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hello, everyone read what Jimmy said above. 

Honestly, I have had lots of personal problems with the Hyatt and the bar scene there is more like Pandemonium than a good time. I boycott it EVERY YEAR. So everyone bring their own supply, give the hard working single moms a $20 tip, and then kiss someone of the same sex. Then everyone will be happy. 

Although Tom's idea of assless leather chaps also sounds good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, everyone read what Jimmy said above. </p>
<p>Honestly, I have had lots of personal problems with the Hyatt and the bar scene there is more like Pandemonium than a good time. I boycott it EVERY YEAR. So everyone bring their own supply, give the hard working single moms a $20 tip, and then kiss someone of the same sex. Then everyone will be happy. </p>
<p>Although Tom&#8217;s idea of assless leather chaps also sounds good.
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		<title>by: Ian Harker</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950314</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If your going to make a difference, make a difference. Boycotting the bar, which in practise at best would amount to a partial boycott, or slump in sales is not going to hurt the owner of the hotal chain. However, it's going to hurt the working class people who survive off their tips, many of whom may be banking on big events like comic con to pay off bills or keep their head above water.

My mother-in-law was a hotel waitress for years and she busted her ass as a single mom to put food on the plates of her two kids. If we were talking about salaried employees who get a steady check either way I'd be right on board, but this tactic wouldn't amount to anything more than working class men and women bring less money home in their pocket in an already challenging economy.

How about this, order a soda and tip the waiter like it was a $22 martini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your going to make a difference, make a difference. Boycotting the bar, which in practise at best would amount to a partial boycott, or slump in sales is not going to hurt the owner of the hotal chain. However, it&#8217;s going to hurt the working class people who survive off their tips, many of whom may be banking on big events like comic con to pay off bills or keep their head above water.</p>
<p>My mother-in-law was a hotel waitress for years and she busted her ass as a single mom to put food on the plates of her two kids. If we were talking about salaried employees who get a steady check either way I&#8217;d be right on board, but this tactic wouldn&#8217;t amount to anything more than working class men and women bring less money home in their pocket in an already challenging economy.</p>
<p>How about this, order a soda and tip the waiter like it was a $22 martini.
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		<title>by: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950252</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950252</guid>
					<description>What's your point, Rick, other than your abject idiocy and cowardice?</description>
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		<title>by: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950217</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Arguing that boycotting a business hurts the employees and that makes it futile or wrong is ludicrous. I suppose those negroes shouldn't have taken up space at the Woolworth's lunch counter. After all, those poor waitresses surely lost a lot of tips from the white people. And the poor drivers during the Montgomery bus boycotts! Sometimes positive change takes action which cause short term pain to people who are just working for living, and while it's too bad I also have to weigh that one weekend's loss of tips with the people who can't visit their partner in the hospital or will their life savings to their unmarried partner, etc. because of some hateful bigots and small-minded prudes who think it's their concern what consenting adults do in their private lives.

Also, if prominent business people want to engage in their right to participate in political donations and activity then they also have to accept that the people who disagree with them will do the same. And yes, sometimes other businesses are just as bad but you pick your battles- just make sure you make it known you are fighting them and for what reason. Hell, while all these pros are in San Diego maybe they should plan a benefit comic to support the gay marriage effort in California!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing that boycotting a business hurts the employees and that makes it futile or wrong is ludicrous. I suppose those negroes shouldn&#8217;t have taken up space at the Woolworth&#8217;s lunch counter. After all, those poor waitresses surely lost a lot of tips from the white people. And the poor drivers during the Montgomery bus boycotts! Sometimes positive change takes action which cause short term pain to people who are just working for living, and while it&#8217;s too bad I also have to weigh that one weekend&#8217;s loss of tips with the people who can&#8217;t visit their partner in the hospital or will their life savings to their unmarried partner, etc. because of some hateful bigots and small-minded prudes who think it&#8217;s their concern what consenting adults do in their private lives.</p>
<p>Also, if prominent business people want to engage in their right to participate in political donations and activity then they also have to accept that the people who disagree with them will do the same. And yes, sometimes other businesses are just as bad but you pick your battles- just make sure you make it known you are fighting them and for what reason. Hell, while all these pros are in San Diego maybe they should plan a benefit comic to support the gay marriage effort in California!
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		<title>by: Rick Rottman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950216</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How many people here that plan on boycotting the Hyatt live in states that don't allow gay people to marry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people here that plan on boycotting the Hyatt live in states that don&#8217;t allow gay people to marry?
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		<title>by: Ian Harker</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950068</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm sure the hotel wait staff can't wait to get screwed on their tips for the week. Sorry children of single moms, it's Ramen noodles again for you!</description>
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		<title>by: Brian Wood</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1950062</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Worth noting that the Marriott is owned by Mormons, and that church opposes gay marriage as well.</description>
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		<title>by: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/16/dont-drink-at-the-hyatt/#comment-1949959</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the thing about service at the hyatt being bad, and ive witnessed it too over the years, is just the sheer stupidity of the management because they UNDERSTAFF. how often have we seen both bars fully packed and only a few bartenders behind there? managers are jumping back there to help, etc. it's the biggest event in san diego every year, surely they can have some preparation. as a bartender in NYC for 14 years, i know the feeling of a packed house and being understaffed. it sucks because you want to help people and make money, but the volume is overwhelming and it causes frustrations. let's see anyone try to keep a smile when hundreds are just looking at you and waiting to be noticed so they can order. im not excusing it by any means, but it is tough. 

as for changing to the marriot, well, that bar is much smaller. (the lobby bar). i know they have other bars in there, but havent explored them in the past. you think the hyatt is overwhelmed w/ 2 lobby bars and one up top, i wonder how the marriot will handle it. 

still, im glad heidi brought this to our attention. ive always packed a flask, ordered a coke, tipped heavily and drank away! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing about service at the hyatt being bad, and ive witnessed it too over the years, is just the sheer stupidity of the management because they UNDERSTAFF. how often have we seen both bars fully packed and only a few bartenders behind there? managers are jumping back there to help, etc. it&#8217;s the biggest event in san diego every year, surely they can have some preparation. as a bartender in NYC for 14 years, i know the feeling of a packed house and being understaffed. it sucks because you want to help people and make money, but the volume is overwhelming and it causes frustrations. let&#8217;s see anyone try to keep a smile when hundreds are just looking at you and waiting to be noticed so they can order. im not excusing it by any means, but it is tough. </p>
<p>as for changing to the marriot, well, that bar is much smaller. (the lobby bar). i know they have other bars in there, but havent explored them in the past. you think the hyatt is overwhelmed w/ 2 lobby bars and one up top, i wonder how the marriot will handle it. </p>
<p>still, im glad heidi brought this to our attention. ive always packed a flask, ordered a coke, tipped heavily and drank away! <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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