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	<title>Comments on: San Diego&#8217;s economy&#8230;again</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Mister Fanboy</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-2052277</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-2052277</guid>
					<description>I attended this year's con.  We stayed at the Sofia Hotel, about 8 blocks or so from the Convention Center.  We paid $928 for 5 nights.  The rooms were super tiny, but nice and the staff was great.  I loved staying there, but if I wasn't splitting the cost it would have been out of the question.  I got the tickets through the Con and 20 some minutes after the lines had opened, this was the cheapest I found.  All things considered, I got a good deal ... for San Diego.  I love visiting but am considering an international trip instead since I'm reaching that price point anyway.  LA would be a nightmare.  The idea of Vegas is great ... but we live there.</description>
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		<title>by: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-2050583</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-2050583</guid>
					<description>Lorena,

Not all of the vendors are out-of-town vendors.  Off the top of my head, I know of three - an art supply store in Little Italy, &lt;a href=&quot;http://mysteriousgalaxy.booksense.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mysterious Galaxy&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloodfire.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bloodfire Studios&lt;/a&gt;.  And I'm sure there are more.

And while there are a lot of locals who don't get a hotel room (I'm one of them) or go out to restaurants, there are a lot who do get hotel rooms for the convience or go out to restaurants with friends they don't get to see very often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorena,</p>
<p>Not all of the vendors are out-of-town vendors.  Off the top of my head, I know of three - an art supply store in Little Italy, <a href="http://mysteriousgalaxy.booksense.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp" rel="nofollow">Mysterious Galaxy</a>, and <a href="http://www.bloodfire.com/" rel="nofollow">Bloodfire Studios</a>.  And I&#8217;m sure there are more.</p>
<p>And while there are a lot of locals who don&#8217;t get a hotel room (I&#8217;m one of them) or go out to restaurants, there are a lot who do get hotel rooms for the convience or go out to restaurants with friends they don&#8217;t get to see very often.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1964607</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1964607</guid>
					<description>I find myself agreeing with many of the things this Zeitgeist fellow writes...</description>
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		<title>by: JWH</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1959112</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1959112</guid>
					<description>Cary, 

I understand that. But I'd hazard a guess that a vast majority of attendees don't Amtrak to the convention. And, it would seem, that there'd be less price-gouging in Vegas since there are more available rooms and, possibly, lower airfares (based on what other posters are saying). 

As far as local mass transit, there's always the possibility of shuttles to the convention arranged for the convention. It wouldn't be the first convention that had shuttle routes from several locations. NYC has plentiful mass transit, but the NYCC still has shuttles from various locations directly to the convention. 

But I didn't mean to be harsh or shoot down any reasons for not moving it to Vegas. I just think judging its potential for success in Vegas by several also-rans and their previous attempt isn't a valid criticism. If this long established convention moved there, I'm pretty sure an overwhelming majority of the exhibitors would move with it. But any other reasons to suggest it isn't a fine alternative are a completely different matter. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cary, </p>
<p>I understand that. But I&#8217;d hazard a guess that a vast majority of attendees don&#8217;t Amtrak to the convention. And, it would seem, that there&#8217;d be less price-gouging in Vegas since there are more available rooms and, possibly, lower airfares (based on what other posters are saying). </p>
<p>As far as local mass transit, there&#8217;s always the possibility of shuttles to the convention arranged for the convention. It wouldn&#8217;t be the first convention that had shuttle routes from several locations. NYC has plentiful mass transit, but the NYCC still has shuttles from various locations directly to the convention. </p>
<p>But I didn&#8217;t mean to be harsh or shoot down any reasons for not moving it to Vegas. I just think judging its potential for success in Vegas by several also-rans and their previous attempt isn&#8217;t a valid criticism. If this long established convention moved there, I&#8217;m pretty sure an overwhelming majority of the exhibitors would move with it. But any other reasons to suggest it isn&#8217;t a fine alternative are a completely different matter. <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958878</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958878</guid>
					<description>I met two people at the grocery store today who said they were from San Diego and I said I was going to Comic-Con and they beat me within an inch of my life.</description>
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		<title>by: Cary Coatney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958719</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958719</guid>
					<description>JWH - 

Another point I would like to make is that some of us people who commute to San Diego via LA like to use the Amtrak or Metrolink.

There is no amtrak to Las Vegas - nor any other train service to Las Vegas for that matter. IF AMTRAK were to get off it's ass and not rely on government funding AND get that proposed BULLET TRAIN up and running then I'd almost be up for it..

But as it is - with the cost of airfare becoming increasingly high and riding greyhound buses with smelly bums and derelicts being the most suck ass way to travel ( I use a alternative busline called Megabus to go into town in order to have meetings with my printer - it is absolutely the champagne of buslines only because most derelicts and winos don't know jack about making reservations on the internet) there is really not much hope for convention attendees who don't own a automobile to attend a convention out in the middle of a desert.

And Las Vegas doesn't really have that much going in as far as metro transportation goes - other than those double decker deuce bus that go up and down the strip.

~

Coat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JWH - </p>
<p>Another point I would like to make is that some of us people who commute to San Diego via LA like to use the Amtrak or Metrolink.</p>
<p>There is no amtrak to Las Vegas - nor any other train service to Las Vegas for that matter. IF AMTRAK were to get off it&#8217;s ass and not rely on government funding AND get that proposed BULLET TRAIN up and running then I&#8217;d almost be up for it..</p>
<p>But as it is - with the cost of airfare becoming increasingly high and riding greyhound buses with smelly bums and derelicts being the most suck ass way to travel ( I use a alternative busline called Megabus to go into town in order to have meetings with my printer - it is absolutely the champagne of buslines only because most derelicts and winos don&#8217;t know jack about making reservations on the internet) there is really not much hope for convention attendees who don&#8217;t own a automobile to attend a convention out in the middle of a desert.</p>
<p>And Las Vegas doesn&#8217;t really have that much going in as far as metro transportation goes - other than those double decker deuce bus that go up and down the strip.</p>
<p>~</p>
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		<title>by: agro23</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958658</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958658</guid>
					<description>One other thing to consider: As far as I know, everyone on the Con committee lives in San Diego. Why would they want to move THEIR show? They'd be relocating their jobs too. Sure they're a multi-million dollar non-profit juggernaut but right now they can drive to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing to consider: As far as I know, everyone on the Con committee lives in San Diego. Why would they want to move THEIR show? They&#8217;d be relocating their jobs too. Sure they&#8217;re a multi-million dollar non-profit juggernaut but right now they can drive to work.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958081</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958081</guid>
					<description>Vegas always throws CES, an even BIGGER show than San Diego...the great maw of dreamland absorbs it like a tiny minnow in its chaotic fluxus. 

I am NOT in favor of moving the Comic-Con to Vegas. IT IS TOO F***NG HOT THERE! 

But I begin to despair over the city's obvious hostility to the show,.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegas always throws CES, an even BIGGER show than San Diego&#8230;the great maw of dreamland absorbs it like a tiny minnow in its chaotic fluxus. </p>
<p>I am NOT in favor of moving the Comic-Con to Vegas. IT IS TOO F***NG HOT THERE! </p>
<p>But I begin to despair over the city&#8217;s obvious hostility to the show,.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958008</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1958008</guid>
					<description>And can I marry that man's daughter?</description>
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957796</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957796</guid>
					<description>Has anybody in Vegas every said anything to the effect that they'd enjoy our business?

And if so, is it anyone with enough pull to guarantee that the cheap hotels in Vegas remain cheap the week of the Comicon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody in Vegas every said anything to the effect that they&#8217;d enjoy our business?</p>
<p>And if so, is it anyone with enough pull to guarantee that the cheap hotels in Vegas remain cheap the week of the Comicon?
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		<title>by: Susie</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957732</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957732</guid>
					<description>I think people are renting rooms in Capistrano this year. (~_^)

My husband is an escapee of San Diego and he says it's always struggled with little-town-looking-sophisticated issues. They want to bring in more ESRIs and downplay the gobs of money SDCC brings. Add to that the extra resources the city has to expend that weekend (extra cops, etc) and they start to look rather fondly at smaller groups of people with bigger expense accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are renting rooms in Capistrano this year. (~_^)</p>
<p>My husband is an escapee of San Diego and he says it&#8217;s always struggled with little-town-looking-sophisticated issues. They want to bring in more ESRIs and downplay the gobs of money SDCC brings. Add to that the extra resources the city has to expend that weekend (extra cops, etc) and they start to look rather fondly at smaller groups of people with bigger expense accounts.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957460</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957460</guid>
					<description>They should totally move the show to Capistrano.</description>
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		<title>by: Lea Hernandez</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957298</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957298</guid>
					<description>*happy sigh.* It must be summer, because we're talking about SDCC in someplace other than SD again. It's like the swallows returning to Capistrano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*happy sigh.* It must be summer, because we&#8217;re talking about SDCC in someplace other than SD again. It&#8217;s like the swallows returning to Capistrano.
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957273</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1957273</guid>
					<description>Not really the point ... the point made was that City Officials say that SDCC doesn't bring in the same revenue as other shows.  But if SDCC has 125,000 attendees paying $400 a night for room, versus 15,000 geologist guys at $200 per night -- SDCC brings in way more money.

The City Officials don't want to admit that a major portion of their economy is relying on funny books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really the point &#8230; the point made was that City Officials say that SDCC doesn&#8217;t bring in the same revenue as other shows.  But if SDCC has 125,000 attendees paying $400 a night for room, versus 15,000 geologist guys at $200 per night &#8212; SDCC brings in way more money.</p>
<p>The City Officials don&#8217;t want to admit that a major portion of their economy is relying on funny books.
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		<title>by: Chip Mosher</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1955107</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1955107</guid>
					<description>All this reminds me of back in '88 when I packed 11 people in to a Holiday Inn room and we had 2 guy sleeping on the balcony. If I was the manager of that hotel, I would sure as hell jack up the prices if people were sleeping on the balcony. Oh, no. I sound like an old, old man. Dammitt!

Spurge - I like the bluegrass idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this reminds me of back in &#8216;88 when I packed 11 people in to a Holiday Inn room and we had 2 guy sleeping on the balcony. If I was the manager of that hotel, I would sure as hell jack up the prices if people were sleeping on the balcony. Oh, no. I sound like an old, old man. Dammitt!</p>
<p>Spurge - I like the bluegrass idea!
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		<title>by: JWH</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1955081</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1955081</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Everybody shut up about Vegas, already. We’ve already had this discussion. There was a convention put on in the fall of 2004 by San Diego Comic Con refugees who thought they could do better than the big show itself at the Mandalay Bay. Nobody came and nobody made any money.

I don’t think any more needs to be said.

~

Coat &lt;/i&gt;

Yeah...nothing more needs to be said in order to understand that a con started up by refugees who think they can do better might fail in Vegas.

Good thing everyone is talking about the idea of the whole CCI, as it exists now, being relocated to Vegas...since that would bring just about all the same folks that go to SD. You'd be kidding yourself if you thought the companies wouldn't attend it and, with their presence, bring a lot of the same attendees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everybody shut up about Vegas, already. We’ve already had this discussion. There was a convention put on in the fall of 2004 by San Diego Comic Con refugees who thought they could do better than the big show itself at the Mandalay Bay. Nobody came and nobody made any money.</p>
<p>I don’t think any more needs to be said.</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Coat </i></p>
<p>Yeah&#8230;nothing more needs to be said in order to understand that a con started up by refugees who think they can do better might fail in Vegas.</p>
<p>Good thing everyone is talking about the idea of the whole CCI, as it exists now, being relocated to Vegas&#8230;since that would bring just about all the same folks that go to SD. You&#8217;d be kidding yourself if you thought the companies wouldn&#8217;t attend it and, with their presence, bring a lot of the same attendees.
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		<title>by: Secret Identity</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1954069</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But Tom, does Vegas have a zoo? And if it does, does it have Pygmy Marmosets?</description>
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		<title>by: Secret Identity</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1954068</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But Tom, does Vegas have a zoo? And if it does, does it have Pygmy Marmosets?</description>
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		<title>by: Bill Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1953905</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1953905</guid>
					<description>Sure, I popped off about Las Vegas way back when.

I am saying that the Con going folks could support a show in Las Vegas, but it needs to crawl before it runs which was the 'extrosion' problem.  That and the name sounded like a manufacturing process and gave no clue what the hell the show was about.

While it can get to 115 degrees in the Summer, most comic conventions are not held outside.

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<p>I am saying that the Con going folks could support a show in Las Vegas, but it needs to crawl before it runs which was the &#8216;extrosion&#8217; problem.  That and the name sounded like a manufacturing process and gave no clue what the hell the show was about.</p>
<p>While it can get to 115 degrees in the Summer, most comic conventions are not held outside.</p>
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1953509</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1953509</guid>
					<description>EXTROSION~!</description>
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952742</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952742</guid>
					<description>I think the con's increasing attendance leading to a full sold out status in 2008 is an obvious danger sign that fundamental change must happen immediately. 

Not only should they switch to Vegas, but I'd consider dropping the comics for Longaberger baskets or maybe bluegrass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the con&#8217;s increasing attendance leading to a full sold out status in 2008 is an obvious danger sign that fundamental change must happen immediately. </p>
<p>Not only should they switch to Vegas, but I&#8217;d consider dropping the comics for Longaberger baskets or maybe bluegrass.
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		<title>by: barry</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952593</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952593</guid>
					<description>Not seriously considering Vegas as an alternative to San Diego would be stupid, stupid move on part of the con organizers.  I said &quot;stupid&quot; twice so you know i'm serious.  STUPID.  I said it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not seriously considering Vegas as an alternative to San Diego would be stupid, stupid move on part of the con organizers.  I said &#8220;stupid&#8221; twice so you know i&#8217;m serious.  STUPID.  I said it again.
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		<title>by: R. Maheras</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952353</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>San Diego is nice the first time or two, but if I had my druthers, I'd opt for Vegas.</description>
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		<title>by: Cary Coatney</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952342</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952342</guid>
					<description>Everybody shut up about Vegas, already. We've already had this discussion. There was a convention put on in the fall of 2004 by San Diego Comic Con refugees who thought they could do better than the big show itself at the Mandalay Bay. Nobody came and nobody made any money.

I don't think any more needs to be said.

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Coat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody shut up about Vegas, already. We&#8217;ve already had this discussion. There was a convention put on in the fall of 2004 by San Diego Comic Con refugees who thought they could do better than the big show itself at the Mandalay Bay. Nobody came and nobody made any money.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any more needs to be said.</p>
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		<title>by: Henessey Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952205</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952205</guid>
					<description>As for the distance between cities, Vegas is maybe an hour and a half further to drive to. If you have the nerve, you can walk from McCarran to the Mandalay Bay Hotel in an Hour (Yes, I've done it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the distance between cities, Vegas is maybe an hour and a half further to drive to. If you have the nerve, you can walk from McCarran to the Mandalay Bay Hotel in an Hour (Yes, I&#8217;ve done it).
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952164</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952164</guid>
					<description>He means Keith Disney, Walt's stripclub-loving nephew.</description>
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		<title>by: ~chris</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952086</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952086</guid>
					<description>Since I booked my hotel room directly-- not through Comic-Con (more expensive that way, but I'm unable to leave work to even try to spend hours on the internet during the mad scramble)-- I'm guessing all the $$ I spend counts naught towards Comic-Con economic impact.

&quot;So, what’s the difference in time to drive from LA to San Diego versus LA to Vegas?&quot; Don't ask me. I live in Orange County and take Amtrak. Who wants to pay for gas and San Diego parking?

&quot;Given the Disneyesque reality of the Strip...&quot; Does Main Street U.S.A. in Disneyland now have newspaper stands with the same contents seen in Vegas? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I booked my hotel room directly&#8211; not through Comic-Con (more expensive that way, but I&#8217;m unable to leave work to even try to spend hours on the internet during the mad scramble)&#8211; I&#8217;m guessing all the $$ I spend counts naught towards Comic-Con economic impact.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, what’s the difference in time to drive from LA to San Diego versus LA to Vegas?&#8221; Don&#8217;t ask me. I live in Orange County and take Amtrak. Who wants to pay for gas and San Diego parking?</p>
<p>&#8220;Given the Disneyesque reality of the Strip&#8230;&#8221; Does Main Street U.S.A. in Disneyland now have newspaper stands with the same contents seen in Vegas? <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Mat D.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952057</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952057</guid>
					<description>&quot;GeekHater Says: 

07/17/08 at 5:11 pm 
you fuckin’ nerds. You want people to put up with your shit, shut the fuck up and pay the extra premium for it. normal people shouldn’t have to deal with seeing your sorry, arrested-development asses wandering around their city in your star wars and stupid-ass anime gear.&quot;


Well when you put it that way.....yea let's pack it up or hordes of spiky-haired, visor sporting, polo shirt wearing BROS will descend upon us and show us their wrath.....or their barbed wire/tribal bicep tattoos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GeekHater Says: </p>
<p>07/17/08 at 5:11 pm<br />
you fuckin’ nerds. You want people to put up with your shit, shut the fuck up and pay the extra premium for it. normal people shouldn’t have to deal with seeing your sorry, arrested-development asses wandering around their city in your star wars and stupid-ass anime gear.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well when you put it that way&#8230;..yea let&#8217;s pack it up or hordes of spiky-haired, visor sporting, polo shirt wearing BROS will descend upon us and show us their wrath&#8230;..or their barbed wire/tribal bicep tattoos&#8230;
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952017</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1952017</guid>
					<description>Sometime in the late 90s, the VSDA convention was in Vegas the week before Comic-Con and we went to both. I was never so happy to get to SD in my life, after four days in Vegas where it was over 100 when we got up in the morning. 

I would expect, given how Hollywood has taken over the con, there's a better chance of it being in LA than being in Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometime in the late 90s, the VSDA convention was in Vegas the week before Comic-Con and we went to both. I was never so happy to get to SD in my life, after four days in Vegas where it was over 100 when we got up in the morning. </p>
<p>I would expect, given how Hollywood has taken over the con, there&#8217;s a better chance of it being in LA than being in Vegas.
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		<title>by: Calvin Reid</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1951980</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/17/san-diegos-economyagain/#comment-1951980</guid>
					<description>Somebody suggested that San Diego residents attending the event don't spend much on hotels or food. Which could be true, although why is it whenever I'm out walking the San Diego Streets, and ask some random SD native about Comic-con, why do they look at me like I'm nutty. The usual response I get when mentioning SDCC to a random SD native is that they've never been and don't seem inclined to do so in the future. 

I've even got an old non-comics friend who has lived in SD for awhile and only visited the convention after badgering from me.  Granted these are wildly unscientific samplings. San Diego has a great weather and a great comics convention, whether they know it or not, but its kind of a strange town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody suggested that San Diego residents attending the event don&#8217;t spend much on hotels or food. Which could be true, although why is it whenever I&#8217;m out walking the San Diego Streets, and ask some random SD native about Comic-con, why do they look at me like I&#8217;m nutty. The usual response I get when mentioning SDCC to a random SD native is that they&#8217;ve never been and don&#8217;t seem inclined to do so in the future. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even got an old non-comics friend who has lived in SD for awhile and only visited the convention after badgering from me.  Granted these are wildly unscientific samplings. San Diego has a great weather and a great comics convention, whether they know it or not, but its kind of a strange town.
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