Comments on: Vertigo Crime line announced http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:52:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: ZEITGEIST / Collective Memory: CCI 2008 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2050948 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:08:00 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2050948 [...] Collective Memory: CCI 2008 Links to stories, eyewitness accounts and resources concerning Comic-Con International, held July 24-27 with a July 23 Preview Night at the convention center in San Diego, California. 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Comic-Con Virgin ***** ***** ***** [...] […] Collective Memory: CCI 2008 Links to stories, eyewitness accounts and resources concerning Comic-Con International, held July 24-27 with a July 23 Preview Night at the convention center in San Diego, California. This entry will continue to be updated for as long as people ***** Institutional Convention Physical Location Host City Blog Entries Blog@Newsarama Notes 01 Blog@Newsarama on Darwyn Cooke Buzz Bags Chebutykin Collected Comics Library 00 Collected Comics Library 01 Collected Comics Library 02 Collected Comics Library 03 Collected Comics Library 04 Collected Comics Library 05 Dave Ferraro D&Q 01 D&Q 02 D&Q 03 D&Q 04 D&Q 05 D&Q 06 Good Comics For Kids 01 Good Comics For Kids 02 Good Comics For Kids 03 Good Comics For Kids 04 Good Comics For Kids 05 Ian Brill Irene Gallo 01 Jarret Kobek Jim Emerson Kelly Kilmer Major Spoilers on Moving The Show Matt Silady MetroMix Los Angeles Randy Lander 00 Randy Lander 01 Randy Lander 02 Randy Lander 03 Randy Lander 04 Randy Reynaldo Rick Marshall Rick Marshall on Joss Whedon Rick Marshall on Rick Geary Scott Edelman: Thursday Quickie Scott Edelman: Thursday Scott Edelman: Friday Quickie Scott Edelman: Friday Scott Edelman: An Encounter With James Owen Scott Edelman: Moo Scott Edelman: Sci-Fi Saturday Night Sean T. Collins Suvudu.com 01 Suvudu.com 02 The Beat 01 The Beat 02 The Beat 03 The Beat 04 The Beat 05 The Beat 06 The Beat 07 The Beat 08 The Beat 09 The Beat 10 The Beat 11 The Beat 12 The Beat 13 The Beat 14 The Beat 15 The Beat 16 The Beat 17 The Beat 18 The Beat 19 The Beat 20 The Beat 21 The Beat 22 The Beat 23 The Beat 24 The Smart Set Todd Klein on Wednesday Todd Klein on Saturday Todd Klein on Sunday Todd Klein on Thursday Todd Klein on Friday 01 Todd Klein on Friday 02 Tom Neely Valerie D’Orazio Zander Cannon Message Boards and Chat Rooms News Stories and Columns Big Shiny Robot! Index ComicMix CBR: David Glanzer CBR: David Glanzer 02 CBR: Matt Furie CBR: Fabio Moon, Gabriel Ba, Becky Cloonan Cinematical Hub Greg Burgas Haaretz.com ICv2.com Summary ICv2.com: David Glanzer Interviewed LA Times General Article NPR PopCultureGeek Preview PW PW 02 PW 03 Reuters THR on Preview Night USA Today Audio TwoMorrows Preview Podcast Photos Blog@Newsarama Preview Night Chris Butcher ComicMix Coming Soon Jarret Kobek Kevin Church Rick Marshall Scott Edelman Miscellaneous 5 Reasons To Be Glad You Didn’t Go 50 Jewish Reasons to Attend CCI Article on Comics Movie Influential Folks Barry Windsor-Smith’s Eisner Hall of Fame Acceptance Speech Cliff Chiang’s SDCC Sketches Guide to CCI Jokers Kevin Church Comedic Commentary Pop Candy Giveaway Pre-CCI Hype Round-Up Remember 1971 Seuling Con In Light Of ‘08 CCI Variety Re-Run (?) on Moving the Con Videos Ali Kokmen Rallies The Trops Kevin Smith Vs. Comic-Con Virgin ***** ***** ***** […]

]]> by: Herr Mike http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2008358 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:49:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2008358 Hmm. Why not just release them as Vertigo comics? It's not like the line couldn't use some help. Hmm. Why not just release them as Vertigo comics? It’s not like the line couldn’t use some help.

]]> by: jacob lyon goddard http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2003902 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:21:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-2003902 this is a joke this isn't about advancing the medium of comics or providing a wider creative outlet for cartoonists this is just another leg of the AOL-Time/Warner R&D branch if there's a list of questions the submitions editor needs to ask themselves before green-lighting a new project, you can make damn well sure "can we turn this into a profitable movie" is on the top of that list. this is a joke
this isn’t about advancing the medium of comics or providing a wider creative outlet for cartoonists

this is just another leg of the AOL-Time/Warner R&D branch

if there’s a list of questions the submitions editor needs to ask themselves before green-lighting a new project, you can make damn well sure “can we turn this into a profitable movie” is on the top of that list.

]]> by: Bookspot-Roundup 7/24/08 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1997437 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:33:30 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1997437 [...] It is also my understanding that Damon and special agent Mark will be redesigning Heliotrope to get ready for our next issue which we expect will be a major step for us and just a cool project as a whole. At this point we feel like we have been inviting the hot girl to the trailer (not even a double-wide) and we are taking steps to change that.  I mean we are talking Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Jeff VanderMeer, Paul S. Kemp, Hal Duncan, K.J. Bishop, Bryan Talbot, Rhys Hughes, Catherynne M. Valente and Chris Roberson - so we need to step up!  Also the idea for the issue after the next came to me with this report by Heidi MacDonald. Basically, continued dopeness. [...] […] It is also my understanding that Damon and special agent Mark will be redesigning Heliotrope to get ready for our next issue which we expect will be a major step for us and just a cool project as a whole. At this point we feel like we have been inviting the hot girl to the trailer (not even a double-wide) and we are taking steps to change that.  I mean we are talking Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Jeff VanderMeer, Paul S. Kemp, Hal Duncan, K.J. Bishop, Bryan Talbot, Rhys Hughes, Catherynne M. Valente and Chris Roberson - so we need to step up!  Also the idea for the issue after the next came to me with this report by Heidi MacDonald. Basically, continued dopeness. […]

]]> by: dan z http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1995739 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:38:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1995739 Are they looking for submissions? Are they looking for submissions?

]]> by: cbrown http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1995040 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:35:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1995040 I hear you, Mark K., but on the other hand, my local libraries carry a lot of graphic novels. Some shelve them all together, and I like being able to go to the one section and see their whole selection. Others do shelve them by author in their respective genres, and it makes it a pain to browse. I hear you, Mark K., but on the other hand, my local libraries carry a lot of graphic novels. Some shelve them all together, and I like being able to go to the one section and see their whole selection. Others do shelve them by author in their respective genres, and it makes it a pain to browse.

]]> by: Mark Coale http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1994552 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:24:52 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1994552 I wonder if it will have a catchy name, like HELIX. I wonder if it will have a catchy name, like HELIX.

]]> by: Cary Coatney http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1994374 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:44:08 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1994374 I'm game for more Sandman Mystery Theatre. That is, if they revive the title for this sub- category. ~ Coat I’m game for more Sandman Mystery Theatre.

That is, if they revive the title for this sub- category.

~

Coat

]]> by: Mark Kardwell http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1993864 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1993864 Here's to the day when comics are shelved in bookshops and libraries by genre, rather than lumping them all together, as if "graphic novels" were a genre itself. It'll be another day closer to comics growing up and joining the book trade, rather than the forced arrested development "the biz" clings to. Here’s to the day when comics are shelved in bookshops and libraries by genre, rather than lumping them all together, as if “graphic novels” were a genre itself. It’ll be another day closer to comics growing up and joining the book trade, rather than the forced arrested development “the biz” clings to.

]]> by: Torsten Adair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1993798 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:53:57 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/07/23/vertigo-crime-line-announced/#comment-1993798 Sorry to jump the gun, but... Will the trade dress and design reflect the graphic novel aspect, or the crime fiction aspect? Will it be shelved with the graphic novels, or in the Mystery section. (And if they are with the mysteries, how will DC counteract the effect Minx suffered when those titles were shelved as young adult fiction, and not YA GN or Adult GN/manga?) If this line is successful, will crime titles migrate from Vertigo (and Paradox and Piranha)? How will DC compete once the mystery publishers begin producing/importing graphic novel titles? (Such as HarperCollins' Agatha Christie adaptations?) Might this be the beginning of graphic novels moving from a media categorization to a genre categorization? Just as there are "series" and "anthologies" subcategories in the various fiction categories, might there soon be a "graphic novel" or "illustrated" subcategory? Is David Hahn's "All Nighter" one of the titles? (And I've handsold Watchmen to mystery buffs by describing it as a murder mystery...) Sorry to jump the gun, but…

Will the trade dress and design reflect the graphic novel aspect, or the crime fiction aspect? Will it be shelved with the graphic novels, or in the Mystery section. (And if they are with the mysteries, how will DC counteract the effect Minx suffered when those titles were shelved as young adult fiction, and not YA GN or Adult GN/manga?)

If this line is successful, will crime titles migrate from Vertigo (and Paradox and Piranha)? How will DC compete once the mystery publishers begin producing/importing graphic novel titles? (Such as HarperCollins’ Agatha Christie adaptations?)

Might this be the beginning of graphic novels moving from a media categorization to a genre categorization? Just as there are “series” and “anthologies” subcategories in the various fiction categories, might there soon be a “graphic novel” or “illustrated” subcategory?

Is David Hahn’s “All Nighter” one of the titles? (And I’ve handsold Watchmen to mystery buffs by describing it as a murder mystery…)

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