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		<title>by: THE BEAT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Room at the inn after all?</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-3446058</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Incidentally, we were looking for an old link and came across last year&amp;#8217;s con wrap-up  and realized that it really makes sense to write notes for next year and actually read them a year later. For one thing, IDW will be exhibiting, despite CEO Ted Adams&amp;#8217;s ponderings last year. BUT, they won&amp;#8217;t be throwing a party, we hear. So&amp;#8230;a nip here, a tuck there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Incidentally, we were looking for an old link and came across last year&#8217;s con wrap-up  and realized that it really makes sense to write notes for next year and actually read them a year later. For one thing, IDW will be exhibiting, despite CEO Ted Adams&#8217;s ponderings last year. BUT, they won&#8217;t be throwing a party, we hear. So&#8230;a nip here, a tuck there. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Grant Watson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2141447</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I went to the con from around 82 to 2003.  One thing ive noticed on the blogs and on all television and cable coverage and all the talks of parties is the lack of the average joe plunking down his hard earned money to get into the event to begin with.  I remember the friday or saturday night party and dinner when anyone...ANYONE could go and sit next to artists and writers.  One year I sat next to gary and lisa carter and several others from CBM.
How many parties were the public invited to attend?  As far as the press or bloggers &quot;deserving&quot; space.  Nonsense.  The whole reason that movie studios started going to the con is to reach the &quot;fans&quot; not the press.   It seems like the average person is getting squeezed out in favor of the media hounds and press people.  All the footage I saw on the Con this year was condecending to say the least.  Hardly any footage on comics at all.  The G4 coverage of the event was almost insulting.  If anything, it should be a level playing field.  If everyone pays the same admission, if everyone has to stand in line, press, fan, blogger, it would be a far better scenario.  No one, not the press or entertainment magazine or whoever should get ANY special treatment because in the end, its the regular folks that spread the word.  I find it hard to believe that all these companies are there to get the word out to access hollywood, extra, entertainment tonight, or yes, even thebeat.  I seems like the average fan is getting edged out.  Everyone doing coverage of this event says that the geeks, or nerds or fanboys, whatever you want to call them are calling the shots at san diego.  Far from it.  If anything they're the ones getting edged out and excluded.  I say cut back the amount of press to 500 at most.  I think hugh jackman said it best when he said to the people at the wolverine panel that he wouldnt have a career without the fans.  Fans...comic book fans...not the press, not the bloggers, not access hollywood.  Fans created this event.  To see any of them excluded in favor of a flashed press pass is outragous.  End of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the con from around 82 to 2003.  One thing ive noticed on the blogs and on all television and cable coverage and all the talks of parties is the lack of the average joe plunking down his hard earned money to get into the event to begin with.  I remember the friday or saturday night party and dinner when anyone&#8230;ANYONE could go and sit next to artists and writers.  One year I sat next to gary and lisa carter and several others from CBM.<br />
How many parties were the public invited to attend?  As far as the press or bloggers &#8220;deserving&#8221; space.  Nonsense.  The whole reason that movie studios started going to the con is to reach the &#8220;fans&#8221; not the press.   It seems like the average person is getting squeezed out in favor of the media hounds and press people.  All the footage I saw on the Con this year was condecending to say the least.  Hardly any footage on comics at all.  The G4 coverage of the event was almost insulting.  If anything, it should be a level playing field.  If everyone pays the same admission, if everyone has to stand in line, press, fan, blogger, it would be a far better scenario.  No one, not the press or entertainment magazine or whoever should get ANY special treatment because in the end, its the regular folks that spread the word.  I find it hard to believe that all these companies are there to get the word out to access hollywood, extra, entertainment tonight, or yes, even thebeat.  I seems like the average fan is getting edged out.  Everyone doing coverage of this event says that the geeks, or nerds or fanboys, whatever you want to call them are calling the shots at san diego.  Far from it.  If anything they&#8217;re the ones getting edged out and excluded.  I say cut back the amount of press to 500 at most.  I think hugh jackman said it best when he said to the people at the wolverine panel that he wouldnt have a career without the fans.  Fans&#8230;comic book fans&#8230;not the press, not the bloggers, not access hollywood.  Fans created this event.  To see any of them excluded in favor of a flashed press pass is outragous.  End of line.
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		<title>by: Is Comic Con Comic-Gone?</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2091327</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2073442</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2073442</guid>
					<description>Maybe the cost of getting into the convention is the main problem with the convention.

If you are going to do a 4.5 day convention of this size, you should be charging a higher entry fee, say $40 for each single day, and $125 for a full pass. Maybe the convention center can help with this when they expand. They can add a surcharge of $10 to each ticket to pay for the expansion.

One day for Chicago is $28, and the Chicago convention is lame compared to the one in Sandy Eggo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the cost of getting into the convention is the main problem with the convention.</p>
<p>If you are going to do a 4.5 day convention of this size, you should be charging a higher entry fee, say $40 for each single day, and $125 for a full pass. Maybe the convention center can help with this when they expand. They can add a surcharge of $10 to each ticket to pay for the expansion.</p>
<p>One day for Chicago is $28, and the Chicago convention is lame compared to the one in Sandy Eggo.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2072366</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2072366</guid>
					<description>If one is a retailer, then the best con is the Diamond Retailer Conference, held this year in Vegas. One ballroom where each publisher gets up and presents. Followed by a day of exhibits. 
I know that some industry workers (behind the scenes types) flew out the weekend before the Con.  Diamond could sponsor a retailer day on Tuesday and Wednesday. Allow media. Embargo news, or collect email and send out press releases each morning, or hold a morning briefing breakfast for journos where each Pub gets five minutes to announce that day's news.
I remember the trade expo. A nice way to ease into the Con, discover new things, and meet people. I would attend if they held something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one is a retailer, then the best con is the Diamond Retailer Conference, held this year in Vegas. One ballroom where each publisher gets up and presents. Followed by a day of exhibits.<br />
I know that some industry workers (behind the scenes types) flew out the weekend before the Con.  Diamond could sponsor a retailer day on Tuesday and Wednesday. Allow media. Embargo news, or collect email and send out press releases each morning, or hold a morning briefing breakfast for journos where each Pub gets five minutes to announce that day&#8217;s news.<br />
I remember the trade expo. A nice way to ease into the Con, discover new things, and meet people. I would attend if they held something similar.
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		<title>by: Thrownwall</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2072089</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I love Bill Maus.  Wow!  Where has he been up to besides this Ninja Zombies thing?</description>
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2069229</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You don't want to see my yuck face.  Nuh-uh.</description>
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		<title>by: Timothy N</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2067965</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>New Bill Maus cover!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ninjazombiesmovie.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Bill Maus cover!</p>
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2067617</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The most fun I had at SD was probably the last year of pro/con, when I was part of the CAC academic conference on Tuesday and Wednesday. 

And I remember the year being part of TEAM BEAT, or whatever Heidi was calling her motley crew of correspondents for the Pulse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most fun I had at SD was probably the last year of pro/con, when I was part of the CAC academic conference on Tuesday and Wednesday. </p>
<p>And I remember the year being part of TEAM BEAT, or whatever Heidi was calling her motley crew of correspondents for the Pulse.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2067421</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2067421</guid>
					<description>Jennifer, welcome to the club!

I would pay for a set of Matt Maxwell Mr. Yuck Face stickers.

I wouldn't go to press day. That sounds awful.

I've never had stature to trade on nor can I assemble a team to compensate. The only event I've ever been to with a list is the Eisner Awards, and I've always been happy to sit in the back of those -- I moved to the back for the final awards this year when I got skeeved out by the folks up front. I was alone at the con this year, and only there for 30 hours, but I thought my readers were reasonably well-served. Then again, people have severely reduced expectations for my site when it comes to &quot;event&quot; coverage. So I'm lucky that way. Really lucky.

I'd sure hate to be a stringer having to get into certain panels according to my assignments. That must be awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, welcome to the club!</p>
<p>I would pay for a set of Matt Maxwell Mr. Yuck Face stickers.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go to press day. That sounds awful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had stature to trade on nor can I assemble a team to compensate. The only event I&#8217;ve ever been to with a list is the Eisner Awards, and I&#8217;ve always been happy to sit in the back of those &#8212; I moved to the back for the final awards this year when I got skeeved out by the folks up front. I was alone at the con this year, and only there for 30 hours, but I thought my readers were reasonably well-served. Then again, people have severely reduced expectations for my site when it comes to &#8220;event&#8221; coverage. So I&#8217;m lucky that way. Really lucky.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d sure hate to be a stringer having to get into certain panels according to my assignments. That must be awful.
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		<title>by: Neeb</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2067036</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder what price point might start driving people away and making attendance more bearable.
$65 to pre-register won't do it. And when the price rises to $75, that won't do it either (especially since Disneyland admission is about $70 a day for access (and no one buys just one ticket).
What's the ceiling? $200?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what price point might start driving people away and making attendance more bearable.<br />
$65 to pre-register won&#8217;t do it. And when the price rises to $75, that won&#8217;t do it either (especially since Disneyland admission is about $70 a day for access (and no one buys just one ticket).<br />
What&#8217;s the ceiling? $200?
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		<title>by: Chip Mosher</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2066924</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As someone who came representing a retail operation in the late 80s early 90s, I fondly remember &quot;retailer night&quot; and having spirited discussions with Carol Kalish, Mike Richardson, and many others that I wouldn't otherwise had the chance to talk to during the week. Representing a publisher these days, I would on the one hand love to have that time to talk to press and retailers back. On the other hand, that's just more time spent not making $ at the con, and I'd like to maximize our presence as much as possible. Though given that we showed up Tuesday morning this year and we could basically been set up by the end of that day, I think something like this could work. I'm torn, torn, torn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who came representing a retail operation in the late 80s early 90s, I fondly remember &#8220;retailer night&#8221; and having spirited discussions with Carol Kalish, Mike Richardson, and many others that I wouldn&#8217;t otherwise had the chance to talk to during the week. Representing a publisher these days, I would on the one hand love to have that time to talk to press and retailers back. On the other hand, that&#8217;s just more time spent not making $ at the con, and I&#8217;d like to maximize our presence as much as possible. Though given that we showed up Tuesday morning this year and we could basically been set up by the end of that day, I think something like this could work. I&#8217;m torn, torn, torn!
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		<title>by: Kelson @ Speed Force</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They've already raised the price a little bit.  I'm fairly certain that I paid $60 last year for this year's con, and last week it was $65 to register for 2009.  Presumably the normal rates will be a bit higher this year as well.

Not that $5 spread over 4½ days is a huge difference, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve already raised the price a little bit.  I&#8217;m fairly certain that I paid $60 last year for this year&#8217;s con, and last week it was $65 to register for 2009.  Presumably the normal rates will be a bit higher this year as well.</p>
<p>Not that $5 spread over 4½ days is a huge difference, but still&#8230;
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2066222</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That image isn't going away anytime soon.

Bleah...</description>
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<p>Bleah&#8230;
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		<title>by: Jennifer de Guzman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2066025</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ha, Tom. If not wanting to &quot;party&quot; with strippers and pseudo-celebrities is being fat and old and set in my ways, then that's me -- at 125 pounds and 30 years of age. By Friday night, I was thoroughly annoyed with all the drunk hangers-on. I wanted a coffee, dammit, but the shop was lousy with drunk guys in luchador masks sexually exploiting a drunk woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Tom. If not wanting to &#8220;party&#8221; with strippers and pseudo-celebrities is being fat and old and set in my ways, then that&#8217;s me &#8212; at 125 pounds and 30 years of age. By Friday night, I was thoroughly annoyed with all the drunk hangers-on. I wanted a coffee, dammit, but the shop was lousy with drunk guys in luchador masks sexually exploiting a drunk woman.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Marc: 

Up until this year, I always demanded the access that my stature deserves. That sounds arrogant, but, let's face it, I've been doing this 25 years. As a daily blogger, it's hard enough just to go through my email and write a daily blog as contacting scores of pr people for access. Why can't I just BE ON THE LIST?

This year I realized that doesn't matter. There really is no place for the Lone Gunslinger any more. Advance prep is absolutely essential, even if it means assembling a team. Even if that team consist of Face, Howling Mad, Hannibal and BA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc: </p>
<p>Up until this year, I always demanded the access that my stature deserves. That sounds arrogant, but, let&#8217;s face it, I&#8217;ve been doing this 25 years. As a daily blogger, it&#8217;s hard enough just to go through my email and write a daily blog as contacting scores of pr people for access. Why can&#8217;t I just BE ON THE LIST?</p>
<p>This year I realized that doesn&#8217;t matter. There really is no place for the Lone Gunslinger any more. Advance prep is absolutely essential, even if it means assembling a team. Even if that team consist of Face, Howling Mad, Hannibal and BA.
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		<title>by: maija</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065863</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There were horses in the elevators? I missed that.

Regarding bags: friends of mine and I noted after the con that in this age of declining availability of plastic bags at grocery stores, the Jurassic Fight Club bags were this year's bag winner, even if the property they were touting isn't all that interesting. But the bags are just the right size for groceries, of durable construction, have an adjustable shoulder strap and a zipper closure! I regret not picking up a couple extra of those. The gigantic WB bags are practically useless, unless you're sewing a dress out of them.

My Comic Con experience was more about comics than ever this year, primarily because I completely gave up on going to any Hollywood-related panels. I didn't even go to Lost. Why bother? Either it's merely a screening of 10 minutes of &quot;EXCLUSIVE!&quot; footage that I'll get to see in the context of the complete film in a few months (or not, because it will turn out that it sucks) with all of the panelists unable to say much because &quot;we can't give too much away&quot; OR the entire thing will be on YouTube in a couple of days (see: Lost). Or there will be a detailed transcript somewhere from a fan more obsessive than I. So unless you're entertainment press desperately needing a scoop, or a 15-year-old girl who would just DIE if she doesn't get to see this year's popular hunk of man meat (distantly, at the far end of Hall H) there isn't much point in going. And yet that's the engine driving Comic Con. Weird.

Instead I was in Artists' Alley, Small Press and the exhibitors' tables which were generally easy to navigate compared to the inflatable-sword-induced gridlock around the major toy/media booths in the middle. My main complaint would be that this year's con seemed &lt;I&gt;louder&lt;/I&gt;. There were more obnoxious PAs being used at booths demoing video games or something, such that I nearly lost my voice by Thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were horses in the elevators? I missed that.</p>
<p>Regarding bags: friends of mine and I noted after the con that in this age of declining availability of plastic bags at grocery stores, the Jurassic Fight Club bags were this year&#8217;s bag winner, even if the property they were touting isn&#8217;t all that interesting. But the bags are just the right size for groceries, of durable construction, have an adjustable shoulder strap and a zipper closure! I regret not picking up a couple extra of those. The gigantic WB bags are practically useless, unless you&#8217;re sewing a dress out of them.</p>
<p>My Comic Con experience was more about comics than ever this year, primarily because I completely gave up on going to any Hollywood-related panels. I didn&#8217;t even go to Lost. Why bother? Either it&#8217;s merely a screening of 10 minutes of &#8220;EXCLUSIVE!&#8221; footage that I&#8217;ll get to see in the context of the complete film in a few months (or not, because it will turn out that it sucks) with all of the panelists unable to say much because &#8220;we can&#8217;t give too much away&#8221; OR the entire thing will be on YouTube in a couple of days (see: Lost). Or there will be a detailed transcript somewhere from a fan more obsessive than I. So unless you&#8217;re entertainment press desperately needing a scoop, or a 15-year-old girl who would just DIE if she doesn&#8217;t get to see this year&#8217;s popular hunk of man meat (distantly, at the far end of Hall H) there isn&#8217;t much point in going. And yet that&#8217;s the engine driving Comic Con. Weird.</p>
<p>Instead I was in Artists&#8217; Alley, Small Press and the exhibitors&#8217; tables which were generally easy to navigate compared to the inflatable-sword-induced gridlock around the major toy/media booths in the middle. My main complaint would be that this year&#8217;s con seemed <I>louder</I>. There were more obnoxious PAs being used at booths demoing video games or something, such that I nearly lost my voice by Thursday.
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		<title>by: austinspace</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065764</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Why not take the Con out of the press picture by holding press conferences pre-show at all the hotels that surround the Con? Because there's no point in having a press conference during the show--I never hear any news from the Con until I get back home. Have DC rent a conference room at the Manchester Grand Hyatt and everybody comes in, gets their info and whatever swag they want, and there's no hurt feelings about not getting in to a panel.

I had a great time this year in SD, helped by the fact that I wasn't photographing anything for anyone but myself. And I've been to nine of the last ten shows. My wife came for the first time and LOVED it. She met and bought comics from indie cartoonists, attended panels, found a great vegan mexican restaurant not too far away (Pokez, how we love thee) and stood in line with me for an hour on Sunday to get tickets for next year's show. From her perspective, it was a blast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not take the Con out of the press picture by holding press conferences pre-show at all the hotels that surround the Con? Because there&#8217;s no point in having a press conference during the show&#8211;I never hear any news from the Con until I get back home. Have DC rent a conference room at the Manchester Grand Hyatt and everybody comes in, gets their info and whatever swag they want, and there&#8217;s no hurt feelings about not getting in to a panel.</p>
<p>I had a great time this year in SD, helped by the fact that I wasn&#8217;t photographing anything for anyone but myself. And I&#8217;ve been to nine of the last ten shows. My wife came for the first time and LOVED it. She met and bought comics from indie cartoonists, attended panels, found a great vegan mexican restaurant not too far away (Pokez, how we love thee) and stood in line with me for an hour on Sunday to get tickets for next year&#8217;s show. From her perspective, it was a blast.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065584</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065584</guid>
					<description>This is an interesting view of the con that I hadn't considered before. I can't imagine at this point in my life still wanting to party with strippers or, really, ever stand in line for a party again, and I don't even know what a Kardashian is. (OJ's lawyer?) But I'm also lucky in that I don't feel compelled to cover anything that's hard to get into and I'm just as happy having dinner with my comics pals as I ever was to get into a party with cool people everywhere. I know that sounds super-arrogant, but when I read some convention reports out there full of frustration and anger or even vague longing I really do feel lucky to be fat and old and set in my ways.

I think there's likely a distinction to be made between press complaining that they can't do their jobs and press complaining that they can't leverage their press passes into stuff they want to do; this year was the first year I saw legitimate instances of the former, and I still saw plenty of the latter. This happens with everybody, too, not just comics people -- there are a lot of editors shadowing their actual reporters that don't need to be at events they claim they need to attend because of their coverage.

Similarly, while I think it's smart not to dismiss new media as inherently less valuable than a print or broadcast source, there's probably also a distinction to be made between receiving actual coverage and receiving attention that doesn't actually lead to substantive coverage. Screw VIP attendee passes, though, although I think they could raise prices across the board and might consider event tickets to keep people from standing in line only to be frustrated.

I'm a little wary of the idea that press deserves access to these events, because they're just hypeathons; most of them aren't real events. It's like covering TV commercials and people watching them. It would be nice to see a press track develop that was actually about disseminating news that ran parallel to the presentations. Some of that goes on informally.

I imagine that the enormous growth of the show the last few years and the industry in general has taken some getting used to and comics people will use the show more effectively in future years, however they want to use it. You can certainly embargo publishing news until a panel announcement but let press know it's taking place, and this seems sensible to me just because press can't attend everything. I wonder if the problem isn't so much that we're not effectively processing the Ant-Man news but that an Ant-Man series isn't really the kind of news people would like for it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting view of the con that I hadn&#8217;t considered before. I can&#8217;t imagine at this point in my life still wanting to party with strippers or, really, ever stand in line for a party again, and I don&#8217;t even know what a Kardashian is. (OJ&#8217;s lawyer?) But I&#8217;m also lucky in that I don&#8217;t feel compelled to cover anything that&#8217;s hard to get into and I&#8217;m just as happy having dinner with my comics pals as I ever was to get into a party with cool people everywhere. I know that sounds super-arrogant, but when I read some convention reports out there full of frustration and anger or even vague longing I really do feel lucky to be fat and old and set in my ways.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s likely a distinction to be made between press complaining that they can&#8217;t do their jobs and press complaining that they can&#8217;t leverage their press passes into stuff they want to do; this year was the first year I saw legitimate instances of the former, and I still saw plenty of the latter. This happens with everybody, too, not just comics people &#8212; there are a lot of editors shadowing their actual reporters that don&#8217;t need to be at events they claim they need to attend because of their coverage.</p>
<p>Similarly, while I think it&#8217;s smart not to dismiss new media as inherently less valuable than a print or broadcast source, there&#8217;s probably also a distinction to be made between receiving actual coverage and receiving attention that doesn&#8217;t actually lead to substantive coverage. Screw VIP attendee passes, though, although I think they could raise prices across the board and might consider event tickets to keep people from standing in line only to be frustrated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little wary of the idea that press deserves access to these events, because they&#8217;re just hypeathons; most of them aren&#8217;t real events. It&#8217;s like covering TV commercials and people watching them. It would be nice to see a press track develop that was actually about disseminating news that ran parallel to the presentations. Some of that goes on informally.</p>
<p>I imagine that the enormous growth of the show the last few years and the industry in general has taken some getting used to and comics people will use the show more effectively in future years, however they want to use it. You can certainly embargo publishing news until a panel announcement but let press know it&#8217;s taking place, and this seems sensible to me just because press can&#8217;t attend everything. I wonder if the problem isn&#8217;t so much that we&#8217;re not effectively processing the Ant-Man news but that an Ant-Man series isn&#8217;t really the kind of news people would like for it to be.
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		<title>by: Steve Buccellato</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065432</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065432</guid>
					<description>You rule, Heidi.  That's all I have to say.</description>
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		<title>by: Marc Mason</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065368</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065368</guid>
					<description>re: Press whining.

That sort of whining annoys the crap out of me. As press, I bust my rear end for weeks ahead of the con putting together a schedule of interviews, etc., knowing (and planning for the fact) that the odds of getting into the big panels are extremely slim.

At least, not without waiting in line for a LONG time.

So, as Heidi says, you work with the PR folks. You create a sane schedule that allows you to maximize your time. And you don't whine.

For Comics Waiting Room, SDCC represents a chance to gather a wealth of story material that we might not otherwise have access to. So rather than piss and moan about what we *couldn't* do, I'm always going to be happy with the things we could. More people need to adopt Heidi's attitude (and mine) and be happy with the Con they have, not the one they can't.

side note: meeting and chatting with the future Mr. Beat as our group left the IDW party was a fun highlight. Ben's an absolutely hilarious fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Press whining.</p>
<p>That sort of whining annoys the crap out of me. As press, I bust my rear end for weeks ahead of the con putting together a schedule of interviews, etc., knowing (and planning for the fact) that the odds of getting into the big panels are extremely slim.</p>
<p>At least, not without waiting in line for a LONG time.</p>
<p>So, as Heidi says, you work with the PR folks. You create a sane schedule that allows you to maximize your time. And you don&#8217;t whine.</p>
<p>For Comics Waiting Room, SDCC represents a chance to gather a wealth of story material that we might not otherwise have access to. So rather than piss and moan about what we *couldn&#8217;t* do, I&#8217;m always going to be happy with the things we could. More people need to adopt Heidi&#8217;s attitude (and mine) and be happy with the Con they have, not the one they can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>side note: meeting and chatting with the future Mr. Beat as our group left the IDW party was a fun highlight. Ben&#8217;s an absolutely hilarious fellow.
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		<title>by: Jennifer de Guzman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065022</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2065022</guid>
					<description>The prices for booths is on the application form for Comic-Con, so it's not really secret information. The base price for a single 10' x 10' booth is $2,200 -- it's extra if you want to get an island or a corner. SLG gets ten booths in an island. That comes to, without early payment discounts, $23,100.

Of those responses to IDW's announcment, I liked Chris Staros's the best. It pretty much sums up the advantages of attending the event, though it is awfully difficult to leverage press coverage without big event-like announcements and pre-con hyping, and I didn't do so hot on that front this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prices for booths is on the application form for Comic-Con, so it&#8217;s not really secret information. The base price for a single 10&#8242; x 10&#8242; booth is $2,200 &#8212; it&#8217;s extra if you want to get an island or a corner. SLG gets ten booths in an island. That comes to, without early payment discounts, $23,100.</p>
<p>Of those responses to IDW&#8217;s announcment, I liked Chris Staros&#8217;s the best. It pretty much sums up the advantages of attending the event, though it is awfully difficult to leverage press coverage without big event-like announcements and pre-con hyping, and I didn&#8217;t do so hot on that front this year.
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		<title>by: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064669</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064669</guid>
					<description>I can empathize with your Men In Black feeling, but I feel that way with comic people. If I had the choice between partying with comic people or Kim Kardashian, I'm going to the Kardashian party. I've partied with comic people and I've partied with strippers and the strippers are a Hell of a lot more fun.

The only comic person I'd want to party with over a stripper is Alan Moore; he'd have a sock puppet show and magic tricks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can empathize with your Men In Black feeling, but I feel that way with comic people. If I had the choice between partying with comic people or Kim Kardashian, I&#8217;m going to the Kardashian party. I&#8217;ve partied with comic people and I&#8217;ve partied with strippers and the strippers are a Hell of a lot more fun.</p>
<p>The only comic person I&#8217;d want to party with over a stripper is Alan Moore; he&#8217;d have a sock puppet show and magic tricks.
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		<title>by: Al</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064186</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064186</guid>
					<description>Had to give back the Smallville souvenir? Does that mean that there will be a 2009 season of Smallville???
ha ha

Incidentally, I wonder, and perhaps this is &quot;don't ask&quot; territory, but what does it cost a comic company for renting a typical space at Comic Con? Are we talking mega dollars or a couple of thousand for the space? I don't mean the cost to ship the display units around.. just the cost to &quot;be there&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to give back the Smallville souvenir? Does that mean that there will be a 2009 season of Smallville???<br />
ha ha</p>
<p>Incidentally, I wonder, and perhaps this is &#8220;don&#8217;t ask&#8221; territory, but what does it cost a comic company for renting a typical space at Comic Con? Are we talking mega dollars or a couple of thousand for the space? I don&#8217;t mean the cost to ship the display units around.. just the cost to &#8220;be there&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064120</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2064120</guid>
					<description>I attended the Con via the net.  Started by refreshing Google News every thirty minutes.  Read blogs.  Did the occasional web search.

As for the swag...  Bidding a few choice items on eBay.  

I'll only go if I'm guiding a virginal fanboy or girl, or if it's work related.  Or moves to a larger venue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the Con via the net.  Started by refreshing Google News every thirty minutes.  Read blogs.  Did the occasional web search.</p>
<p>As for the swag&#8230;  Bidding a few choice items on eBay.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll only go if I&#8217;m guiding a virginal fanboy or girl, or if it&#8217;s work related.  Or moves to a larger venue.
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		<title>by: Martha Thomases</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/01/boil-that-dust-speck/#comment-2063934</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My favorite &quot;viral&quot; or &quot;guerrilla&quot; marketing ploy was the Smallville room key to my hotel.  Especially when I had to give it back to check out.  Boy, that really showed how &quot;hep&quot; those Warner TV folks are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite &#8220;viral&#8221; or &#8220;guerrilla&#8221; marketing ploy was the Smallville room key to my hotel.  Especially when I had to give it back to check out.  Boy, that really showed how &#8220;hep&#8221; those Warner TV folks are.
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