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	<title>Comments on: Requiem for a Virgin</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/</link>
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		<title>by: You&#8217;re doing it wrong. - irrg! orrrrg!</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2883485</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Heidi MacDonald sheds more light on the Virgin Birth and it’s recent premature passing (I told you I’d be here all week, and we really have a lot of veal in the freezer.) The “go us, we were a great company” comment by Mark Frangos is to be expected, but it really doesn’t get interesting until Heidi gets to an ex-employee with a bit more… openness about how Virgin worked. Or rather, didn’t. [CMO Larry Lieberman]subsequently drew a picture for me to explain ourbusiness model wherein Dynamite and Virgin Comics were both rocket ships, and the Virgin rocketship soared ahead of the Dynamite rocket. The parabolic arcs of both rockets ended with them crashing into the ground, though the implications of that escaped him. Sequential art wasn’t really his strong suit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Heidi MacDonald sheds more light on the Virgin Birth and it’s recent premature passing (I told you I’d be here all week, and we really have a lot of veal in the freezer.) The “go us, we were a great company” comment by Mark Frangos is to be expected, but it really doesn’t get interesting until Heidi gets to an ex-employee with a bit more… openness about how Virgin worked. Or rather, didn’t. [CMO Larry Lieberman]subsequently drew a picture for me to explain ourbusiness model wherein Dynamite and Virgin Comics were both rocket ships, and the Virgin rocketship soared ahead of the Dynamite rocket. The parabolic arcs of both rockets ended with them crashing into the ground, though the implications of that escaped him. Sequential art wasn’t really his strong suit. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2761993</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: buy text links</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2376655</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;buy text links...&lt;/strong&gt;

This year’ s EMC World , at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas May 19- 22 promises to be the event to showcase EMC’ s products around hardware, software and solutions. Having attended last year, it’ s the best place to get access from EMC’ s engineering...</description>
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<p>This year’ s EMC World , at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas May 19- 22 promises to be the event to showcase EMC’ s products around hardware, software and solutions. Having attended last year, it’ s the best place to get access from EMC’ s engineering&#8230;
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		<title>by: Tom Vutayan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2247986</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2247986</guid>
					<description>I think that the surest way to create a successful comic--successful in terms of building up a readership--is to make the kind of comic book you would love to read.  There's no guarantee, of course.  But, you'll have a better chance this way.  It comes down to passion.  Write and/or draw what you love (Hopefully, it has some redeeming qualities to it.).  And everything else will fall into place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the surest way to create a successful comic&#8211;successful in terms of building up a readership&#8211;is to make the kind of comic book you would love to read.  There&#8217;s no guarantee, of course.  But, you&#8217;ll have a better chance this way.  It comes down to passion.  Write and/or draw what you love (Hopefully, it has some redeeming qualities to it.).  And everything else will fall into place.
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		<title>by: Dwight Williams</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2247970</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2247970</guid>
					<description>&lt;b&gt;Dan Dare&lt;/b&gt; looked like it was actually going to hold up over the long haul.

Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dan Dare</b> looked like it was actually going to hold up over the long haul.</p>
<p>Pity.
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		<title>by: Louis Lane</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2246844</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd like to see (a) the market research that led Virgin to belive their line was viable, and (b) their rationale believing a hodge-podge of Indian mythology, B-List creator, and action/adventure titles (all marketed under one imprint) would make a good mix.

LL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see (a) the market research that led Virgin to belive their line was viable, and (b) their rationale believing a hodge-podge of Indian mythology, B-List creator, and action/adventure titles (all marketed under one imprint) would make a good mix.</p>
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		<title>by: Scott Bieser</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2230162</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2230162</guid>
					<description>&quot;The only model not yet exploited: starting a title online, and using that instead of paper periodical publishing.&quot;

Actually, this is what Big Head Press is doing. Our results, financially, have been less than spectacular so far, but we're learning, and applying the things we've learned to every new project. And we're on the slow-build track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only model not yet exploited: starting a title online, and using that instead of paper periodical publishing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, this is what Big Head Press is doing. Our results, financially, have been less than spectacular so far, but we&#8217;re learning, and applying the things we&#8217;ve learned to every new project. And we&#8217;re on the slow-build track.
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229938</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229938</guid>
					<description>The IDW model is very similar to the Dark Horse model.  Licensed properties are the best way to generate attention, as most people know what to expect when they buy a Star Trek or Godzilla comicbook.  Less so when a famous name is attached.  

Image took established famous names from Marvel and launched their line.  Maverick tried something similar, but with less success.  (Although three movies for such a small line is pretty successful.)

Dark Horse and D&amp;#38;Q started with anthologies (the DC model), which allow readers to sample a variety of stories.  Fan response then suggests which characters are best suited for spin-off success.

Then there's the import model, used by D&amp;#38;Q and NBM (and Gladstone and Tokyopop and Viz...): production costs are lowered as the art and story are already finished, and only need to be formatted and translated.  

The collected reprint editions model started Pantheon's line (Maus, Life in Hell).  

Although comicstrip collections no longer sell in the millions, they are a stable section of most bookstores' humor sections.  There is also a (mostly) silent majority of comicstrip fans out there... everyone reads them in the newspaper, and there are many people willing to try a new strip.  (Omaha never carried Bloom County, but I became a devoted fan when I discovered it at the local Waldenbooks.)  While most modern strips have been collected, there are many older blockbusters which have yet to be reprinted.  (Joe Palooka, Barnaby, Katzenjammer Kids)

The only model not yet exploited: starting a title online, and using that instead of paper periodical publishing.  This is unlikely, as most titles are creator-owned, not part of a collective or publisher website.  Since creator owned, book publishers can license the property without needing to create a line of titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IDW model is very similar to the Dark Horse model.  Licensed properties are the best way to generate attention, as most people know what to expect when they buy a Star Trek or Godzilla comicbook.  Less so when a famous name is attached.  </p>
<p>Image took established famous names from Marvel and launched their line.  Maverick tried something similar, but with less success.  (Although three movies for such a small line is pretty successful.)</p>
<p>Dark Horse and D&amp;Q started with anthologies (the DC model), which allow readers to sample a variety of stories.  Fan response then suggests which characters are best suited for spin-off success.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the import model, used by D&amp;Q and NBM (and Gladstone and Tokyopop and Viz&#8230;): production costs are lowered as the art and story are already finished, and only need to be formatted and translated.  </p>
<p>The collected reprint editions model started Pantheon&#8217;s line (Maus, Life in Hell).  </p>
<p>Although comicstrip collections no longer sell in the millions, they are a stable section of most bookstores&#8217; humor sections.  There is also a (mostly) silent majority of comicstrip fans out there&#8230; everyone reads them in the newspaper, and there are many people willing to try a new strip.  (Omaha never carried Bloom County, but I became a devoted fan when I discovered it at the local Waldenbooks.)  While most modern strips have been collected, there are many older blockbusters which have yet to be reprinted.  (Joe Palooka, Barnaby, Katzenjammer Kids)</p>
<p>The only model not yet exploited: starting a title online, and using that instead of paper periodical publishing.  This is unlikely, as most titles are creator-owned, not part of a collective or publisher website.  Since creator owned, book publishers can license the property without needing to create a line of titles.
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		<title>by: GOMA DE MASCAR.net &#124; VIRGIN COMICS SUBIU NO TELHADO</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229890</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229890</guid>
					<description>[...] a diferença da Virgin pra Crossgen é que não obrigava seus autores a morar perto da redação e pelo menos por hora parece que todos os freelancers foram pagos em dia e quase todos só têm elogios pra família Chopra [mais a respeito logo abaixo]. a Crossgen tá devendo até hoje, inclusive pro brasileiro Luke Ross. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a diferença da Virgin pra Crossgen é que não obrigava seus autores a morar perto da redação e pelo menos por hora parece que todos os freelancers foram pagos em dia e quase todos só têm elogios pra família Chopra [mais a respeito logo abaixo]. a Crossgen tá devendo até hoje, inclusive pro brasileiro Luke Ross. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: John Freeman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229806</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I conducted an inspiring interview with David Fickling, publisher of the new weekly subscription only comic The DFC yesterday, which will feature on downthetubes.net soon. His attitude to The DFC is quite the reverse of the 'rocketship' mentality: a slow build of sales, developing the comic's web site and building readers over time rather than launching on a huge budget and as a result, having to meet huge and perhaps unfulfilled expectations from a publisher. I hope it works, certainly talking to a publisher who had grown up reading comics and had wanted to publish a comic all his life was very encouraging, as is The DFC's approach to rights and more for creators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I conducted an inspiring interview with David Fickling, publisher of the new weekly subscription only comic The DFC yesterday, which will feature on downthetubes.net soon. His attitude to The DFC is quite the reverse of the &#8216;rocketship&#8217; mentality: a slow build of sales, developing the comic&#8217;s web site and building readers over time rather than launching on a huge budget and as a result, having to meet huge and perhaps unfulfilled expectations from a publisher. I hope it works, certainly talking to a publisher who had grown up reading comics and had wanted to publish a comic all his life was very encouraging, as is The DFC&#8217;s approach to rights and more for creators.
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		<title>by: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229729</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229729</guid>
					<description>I enjoyed DOCK-WALLOPER myself. And DAN DARE, as everyone else seemed to.</description>
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		<title>by: Stuart Moore</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229708</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Leaving aside the politics of it all, I'll second that recommendation of WALK-IN. A really underrated little project, well worth hunting down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving aside the politics of it all, I&#8217;ll second that recommendation of WALK-IN. A really underrated little project, well worth hunting down.
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		<title>by: brian h.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229691</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i'm fairly certain that step two involves the power of prayer.</description>
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		<title>by: Brian Jacoby from Secret Headquarters Tallahassee, Florida</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229669</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229669</guid>
					<description>Step One: Produce comics.
Step Two: ???
Step Three: Profit!</description>
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Step Two: ???<br />
Step Three: Profit!
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		<title>by: legitsquare</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229612</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229612</guid>
					<description>Random thought:

I really liked Walk-in by Jeff Parker.  It was highly entertaning. 

However I had to Wiki &quot;Dave Stewart&quot; the expected B-list celeberity attached to the title as it's 'idea man'.  You know, &quot;Dave Stewart's Walk-In&quot;

He's the dude from the Eurethmyics, who if not for Marilyn Manson covering Sweet Dreams in my mispent youth of the 1990's i would have also had to Wiki. 

I wonder if the book would have sold better in trade only format (not floppies!) and was &quot;From the awesome writer who brought you Marvel Adventures Avengers and Agents of Atlas. 

I woulnd't have sold better by much... but maybe just a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thought:</p>
<p>I really liked Walk-in by Jeff Parker.  It was highly entertaning. </p>
<p>However I had to Wiki &#8220;Dave Stewart&#8221; the expected B-list celeberity attached to the title as it&#8217;s &#8216;idea man&#8217;.  You know, &#8220;Dave Stewart&#8217;s Walk-In&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the dude from the Eurethmyics, who if not for Marilyn Manson covering Sweet Dreams in my mispent youth of the 1990&#8217;s i would have also had to Wiki. </p>
<p>I wonder if the book would have sold better in trade only format (not floppies!) and was &#8220;From the awesome writer who brought you Marvel Adventures Avengers and Agents of Atlas. </p>
<p>I woulnd&#8217;t have sold better by much&#8230; but maybe just a little.
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		<title>by: Edward Liu</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229554</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229554</guid>
					<description>So does this mean we won't have Jenna Jameson around any more to show us a real, kick-ass strong woman as both a comics creator and a comics character? How will comics possibly survive the loss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean we won&#8217;t have Jenna Jameson around any more to show us a real, kick-ass strong woman as both a comics creator and a comics character? How will comics possibly survive the loss?
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		<title>by: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229427</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Haha...Laura kickin ass and takin names</description>
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		<title>by: John Tebbel</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229132</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Most of the big deals I can think of (Supes, Barbie, D&amp;#38;D to start) were bottom up affairs cooked up by flat broke creators, not calculated chess moves by some plutocrats.</description>
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		<title>by: Sphinx Magoo</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2229076</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[i]But take it from a former editor for a few major companies — everyone who walked into my office, whether an escapee from jail or a celebrity, had an idea for a comic book (and a movie and a TV show and probably a novel). And most of them sucked. I certainly wouldn’t base a business plan around these sorts of ideas.[/i]

This, then, is the Holy Grail for comics or for anything really: to create a product that doesn't suck. But how do you do that? How do you know when something sucks and when it doesn't? What's the criteria? What are the clues? What reality checks can one use to go from suck to success?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]But take it from a former editor for a few major companies — everyone who walked into my office, whether an escapee from jail or a celebrity, had an idea for a comic book (and a movie and a TV show and probably a novel). And most of them sucked. I certainly wouldn’t base a business plan around these sorts of ideas.[/i]</p>
<p>This, then, is the Holy Grail for comics or for anything really: to create a product that doesn&#8217;t suck. But how do you do that? How do you know when something sucks and when it doesn&#8217;t? What&#8217;s the criteria? What are the clues? What reality checks can one use to go from suck to success?
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		<title>by: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aug. 28, 2008: Begging hat in hand</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2228896</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Oh, before I forget: Brian Hibbs responds to yesterday&amp;#8217;s nastiness. I&amp;#8217;ve replied in the comments section of Hibbs&amp;#8217; blogpost, to avoid yet another iteration of the twice-yearly weeklong blogwar he and I seem to perpetually wage. One retailer at a time, I figure. Heidi MacDonald, Simon Jones and Charles Yoakum have more on the subject, should you be interested, while Steve Holland ponders why their Dan Dare relaunch didn&amp;#8217;t connect with buyers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Oh, before I forget: Brian Hibbs responds to yesterday&#8217;s nastiness. I&#8217;ve replied in the comments section of Hibbs&#8217; blogpost, to avoid yet another iteration of the twice-yearly weeklong blogwar he and I seem to perpetually wage. One retailer at a time, I figure. Heidi MacDonald, Simon Jones and Charles Yoakum have more on the subject, should you be interested, while Steve Holland ponders why their Dan Dare relaunch didn&#8217;t connect with buyers. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Alan Kistler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2228245</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The attitude reminds me of how occasionally folks at Marvel and DC have thought of events and gimmicks that were sure to make money and felt that the story was something incidental, just a device to package around the money maker.

&quot;For the 100th issue of WEB OF SPIDER-MAN, we want him to wear armor that we can sell as a separate action figure. Quick, write a story where that happens. And hey, that Spawn character at Image is doing well, so let's also introduce a new character in that same issue who looks exactly like Spawn. We'll call him Nightwatch and then put him in his own series and act like he's a spin-off character. Quick, go write! We need to make money!&quot;

If it was that easy to guarantee marketing success, we would not need writers at all. The fact that Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Spider-Man have not been forgotten and replaced by &quot;edgier&quot; pretenders is all the proof you need that you have to be more creative than just asking &quot;Hey, what's selling today?&quot;

And props to my girl Laura for continuing to kick ass. I knew there was a reason I liked her. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attitude reminds me of how occasionally folks at Marvel and DC have thought of events and gimmicks that were sure to make money and felt that the story was something incidental, just a device to package around the money maker.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the 100th issue of WEB OF SPIDER-MAN, we want him to wear armor that we can sell as a separate action figure. Quick, write a story where that happens. And hey, that Spawn character at Image is doing well, so let&#8217;s also introduce a new character in that same issue who looks exactly like Spawn. We&#8217;ll call him Nightwatch and then put him in his own series and act like he&#8217;s a spin-off character. Quick, go write! We need to make money!&#8221;</p>
<p>If it was that easy to guarantee marketing success, we would not need writers at all. The fact that Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Spider-Man have not been forgotten and replaced by &#8220;edgier&#8221; pretenders is all the proof you need that you have to be more creative than just asking &#8220;Hey, what&#8217;s selling today?&#8221;</p>
<p>And props to my girl Laura for continuing to kick ass. I knew there was a reason I liked her. <img src='http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Evan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2228121</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LOL love the fact they thought cause Dynamite did it, they should be able to and do it better.

Never mind the fact that Dynamite's been around as Dynamic Forces for how long now so at least they always had a better idea of how to handle the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL love the fact they thought cause Dynamite did it, they should be able to and do it better.</p>
<p>Never mind the fact that Dynamite&#8217;s been around as Dynamic Forces for how long now so at least they always had a better idea of how to handle the market.
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		<title>by: timothycat</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2228110</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you want to start a main stream new company there is but one example to study, IDW. The only succesul mainstream company to launch since Darkhorse/Image (obviously leaving out TopShelf and D&amp;#38;Q) though Dynamite is looking to be an exception . A combination of licensed and new material is the key and top flight talent is neccesary. Also helps to be doing some archivial material, lots of dough in such projects especially from those with a decent income. Though, other than Doonesbury, I'm not sure what archival material remains for a really strong line that will be big in bookstores. Strikes me that there is some money in what Pure Imagination is doing but in color. Have little interest in Theakstonised B&amp;#38;W and according to sales no one else does. virgin's big name directors were only of interest to those of us who actually follow directors other than Lucas and his ilk.  Most folks unfortunately don't have a clue who John Woo or Guy Ritchie are. I tried but never found a trade of Guy Ritchie's Game Keeper. And how about major names sticking around. Didn't bother to follow John Woo's book once Ennis left, it was weak anyways. I never found a copy of Megas, which had some buzz. I could go on but won't. The mistakes, though handled in a unique fashion with Virgin were obvious, and are of course those that us comic buyers have become very used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to start a main stream new company there is but one example to study, IDW. The only succesul mainstream company to launch since Darkhorse/Image (obviously leaving out TopShelf and D&amp;Q) though Dynamite is looking to be an exception . A combination of licensed and new material is the key and top flight talent is neccesary. Also helps to be doing some archivial material, lots of dough in such projects especially from those with a decent income. Though, other than Doonesbury, I&#8217;m not sure what archival material remains for a really strong line that will be big in bookstores. Strikes me that there is some money in what Pure Imagination is doing but in color. Have little interest in Theakstonised B&amp;W and according to sales no one else does. virgin&#8217;s big name directors were only of interest to those of us who actually follow directors other than Lucas and his ilk.  Most folks unfortunately don&#8217;t have a clue who John Woo or Guy Ritchie are. I tried but never found a trade of Guy Ritchie&#8217;s Game Keeper. And how about major names sticking around. Didn&#8217;t bother to follow John Woo&#8217;s book once Ennis left, it was weak anyways. I never found a copy of Megas, which had some buzz. I could go on but won&#8217;t. The mistakes, though handled in a unique fashion with Virgin were obvious, and are of course those that us comic buyers have become very used to.
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		<title>by: Jess</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2228086</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As said before, this type of thinking seems to be the top single on the &quot;Intellectual property farming&quot; greatest hits album.  And we'll hear it again and again I'm sure… (I’m looking at you as well Radical... ) What always throws me for a loop is why do these people think that in one year (or less) they can instantly create properties with the same significance and media weight as Batman, Spider-man, or even the Lone Ranger (characters that have been around for 50 years plus...) 

I'm assuming they're banking on (some or all) Hollywood execs to be too stupid to know the difference and have the &quot;its a comic&quot; bullet point in the movie/TV/Videogame pitch mean (to someone who doesn't know any better) &quot;It'll make Dark Knight/Iron Man money&quot; without having to put in that annoying 40-50 years of fan base building.  That’s just gambling… It’s dumb as hell but at least I see the angle.

But, if they actually need to have a truly successful publishing division, as a requirement to sustaining their business and/or business model… most see the doomsday a mile away because it seems none of these companies never seem to plan for anything other than Batman/Spiderman success right out of the gate.  If I’m going to put up x amount of money to start a widget business… Isn’t it dumb to assume (and bank my money on the idea) that my first attempt a widget manufacturing will instantly be successful and make me a player in the widget market littered with 60-year veterans.  Shouldn’t I start small and bank on building off of smaller goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As said before, this type of thinking seems to be the top single on the &#8220;Intellectual property farming&#8221; greatest hits album.  And we&#8217;ll hear it again and again I&#8217;m sure… (I’m looking at you as well Radical&#8230; ) What always throws me for a loop is why do these people think that in one year (or less) they can instantly create properties with the same significance and media weight as Batman, Spider-man, or even the Lone Ranger (characters that have been around for 50 years plus&#8230;) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming they&#8217;re banking on (some or all) Hollywood execs to be too stupid to know the difference and have the &#8220;its a comic&#8221; bullet point in the movie/TV/Videogame pitch mean (to someone who doesn&#8217;t know any better) &#8220;It&#8217;ll make Dark Knight/Iron Man money&#8221; without having to put in that annoying 40-50 years of fan base building.  That’s just gambling… It’s dumb as hell but at least I see the angle.</p>
<p>But, if they actually need to have a truly successful publishing division, as a requirement to sustaining their business and/or business model… most see the doomsday a mile away because it seems none of these companies never seem to plan for anything other than Batman/Spiderman success right out of the gate.  If I’m going to put up x amount of money to start a widget business… Isn’t it dumb to assume (and bank my money on the idea) that my first attempt a widget manufacturing will instantly be successful and make me a player in the widget market littered with 60-year veterans.  Shouldn’t I start small and bank on building off of smaller goals.
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Some people will go to incredible lengths to avoid a lunch date.</description>
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		<title>by: Sim, a Virgin também quebra a cara &#124; Pollex</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2227866</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] A última idéia de Branson não foi exatamente sua mais brilhante. Após apenas alguns meses, a Virgin Comics, seu braço de quadrinhos fundada em parceria com Deepak Chopra (sim, ele mesmo) e contando com nomes do calibre de John Woo, Guy Ritchie e Nicholas Cage (para quem não conhece quadrinhos) e Garth Ennis, Mike Carey e Gary Erskine (para quem conhece quadrinhos), simplesmente faliu. Há uma extensa discussão sobre o tema e as patéticas premissas do negócio (que só poderia acabar do jeito que acabou) na Publisher&amp;#8217;s Weekly, como por exemplo a idéia de que uma editora de quadrinhos nada mais é do que uma plataforma de lançamento de personagens (properties), mesmo que estas revistas sequer vingassem ou fossem lidas. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A última idéia de Branson não foi exatamente sua mais brilhante. Após apenas alguns meses, a Virgin Comics, seu braço de quadrinhos fundada em parceria com Deepak Chopra (sim, ele mesmo) e contando com nomes do calibre de John Woo, Guy Ritchie e Nicholas Cage (para quem não conhece quadrinhos) e Garth Ennis, Mike Carey e Gary Erskine (para quem conhece quadrinhos), simplesmente faliu. Há uma extensa discussão sobre o tema e as patéticas premissas do negócio (que só poderia acabar do jeito que acabou) na Publisher&#8217;s Weekly, como por exemplo a idéia de que uma editora de quadrinhos nada mais é do que uma plataforma de lançamento de personagens (properties), mesmo que estas revistas sequer vingassem ou fossem lidas. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Mark Bourne</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2227775</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, it's a tune we've heard before and will hear again, I've no doubt.  I tried to collect my thoughts on Virgin Comics and I think you said it right, and I agree that there wasn't anything of interest there for me. Nothing got my attention beyond the issues being in the 50 cent bins at the local comic show.  Live and learn I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a tune we&#8217;ve heard before and will hear again, I&#8217;ve no doubt.  I tried to collect my thoughts on Virgin Comics and I think you said it right, and I agree that there wasn&#8217;t anything of interest there for me. Nothing got my attention beyond the issues being in the 50 cent bins at the local comic show.  Live and learn I guess.
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		<title>by: Glenn Barbis Jr.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2227681</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Glenn Barbis Jr.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2227667</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[i]&quot;But anyone who hopes to make an ongoing business out of optioning comics plots to Hollywood without actually publishing comics that people want to read, will be in for some disappointment.&quot;[/i]

What I want to know then is how Rob Liefeld has been able to do it? :^D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]&#8221;But anyone who hopes to make an ongoing business out of optioning comics plots to Hollywood without actually publishing comics that people want to read, will be in for some disappointment.&#8221;[/i]</p>
<p>What I want to know then is how Rob Liefeld has been able to do it? :^D
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		<title>by: Glenn Barbis Jr.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/27/requiem-for-a-virgin-2/#comment-2227664</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[i]&quot;But anyone who hopes to make an ongoing business out of optioning comics plots to Hollywood without actually publishing comics that people want to read, will be in for some disappointment.&quot;[/quote]

What I want to then, is how Rob Liefeld has managed to do it? :^D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]&#8221;But anyone who hopes to make an ongoing business out of optioning comics plots to Hollywood without actually publishing comics that people want to read, will be in for some disappointment.&#8221;[/quote]</p>
<p>What I want to then, is how Rob Liefeld has managed to do it? :^D
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