Comments on: Death comes suddenly…unexpectedly… http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:10:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Steven R. Stahl http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2269162 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:48:18 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2269162 “It’s funny. Marvel Comics has been hacking at Skrulls all summer long in the most gruesome manner - heck every page of a Marvel book these days has a Skrull being killed, yet, no one complains.” There have been online complaints of sorts, notably about Clint Barton gunning down Skrulls in SECRET INVASION #5, but the quality of writing in the SI miniseries (and some tie-ins, e.g., Ms. MARVEL) is so poor that it’s impossible to take events as depicted seriously. Except for the fact that Marvel is publishing the material, SECRET INVASION might as well have been written by a crime fiction enthusiast who’s trying to do superheroes and aliens without ever having read SF. SRS “It’s funny. Marvel Comics has been hacking at Skrulls all summer long in the most gruesome manner - heck every page of a Marvel book these days has a Skrull being killed, yet, no one complains.”

There have been online complaints of sorts, notably about Clint Barton gunning down Skrulls in SECRET INVASION #5, but the quality of writing in the SI miniseries (and some tie-ins, e.g., Ms. MARVEL) is so poor that it’s impossible to take events as depicted seriously. Except for the fact that Marvel is publishing the material, SECRET INVASION might as well have been written by a crime fiction enthusiast who’s trying to do superheroes and aliens without ever having read SF.

SRS

]]> by: Bartholomew Fair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2266542 Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:55:52 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2266542 What? More torture porn from DC Comics? Now there's a shock. What? More torture porn from DC Comics? Now there’s a shock.

]]> by: Ken http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2262150 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:57:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2262150 I don't understand this knocking of Superfriends. The brilliant Ted Knight was the narrator, and you always learned a valuable lesson. I actually preferred them and the Wonder Twins to the later Challenge of The Superfriends nonsense starring the supervillains and superheroes like Indian Man and Black Man. The Toth styled artwork was superior too. Once Ted Knight left the show lost much of its charm. I don’t understand this knocking of Superfriends. The brilliant Ted Knight was the narrator, and you always learned a valuable lesson. I actually preferred them and the Wonder Twins to the later Challenge of The Superfriends nonsense starring the supervillains and superheroes like Indian Man and Black Man. The Toth styled artwork was superior too. Once Ted Knight left the show lost much of its charm.

]]> by: Paul McEnery http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2262061 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:56:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2262061 Neither Lockjaw nor Wonder Dog, but the dog from Miracleman. Neither Lockjaw nor Wonder Dog, but the dog from Miracleman.

]]> by: Alex http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2259753 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:49:03 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2259753 Teens. They're marketed to teens. Sexed up action comics about outsider with insane potential are for teens. That's who they should be marketed to by the by. Teens. They’re marketed to teens. Sexed up action comics about outsider with insane potential are for teens. That’s who they should be marketed to by the by.

]]> by: Gerry Alanguilan http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2257035 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:30:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2257035 Alan Moore would not have written this. If he did, it would not be in this kind of book. I'm wondering just for what audience this kind of book was made for, indeed, I'm wondering what kind of audience a lot of superhero comic books today are made for . It certainly CAN'T be for an 8 year old me, who would have been traumatized at seeing something like this. By all means do all this stuff in other comic books (I'm all for dog skull cracking in Watchmen, or brains blowing apart in Preacher, tits, ass and man rape in LOEG), but if you sexify the X-Men and do this kind of thing in Teen Titans, something is seriously, seriously wrong. Alan Moore would not have written this. If he did, it would not be in this kind of book. I’m wondering just for what audience this kind of book was made for, indeed, I’m wondering what kind of audience a lot of superhero comic books today are made for . It certainly CAN’T be for an 8 year old me, who would have been traumatized at seeing something like this.

By all means do all this stuff in other comic books (I’m all for dog skull cracking in Watchmen, or brains blowing apart in Preacher, tits, ass and man rape in LOEG), but if you sexify the X-Men and do this kind of thing in Teen Titans, something is seriously, seriously wrong.

]]> by: The Four Color Media Monitor http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2255716 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:29:08 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2255716 <strong>Wonder Twins get slaughtered by Wonder Dog...</strong> In the latest sign that the current Teen Titans volume was a huge mistake, the Wonder Twins, who were recently reintro'd...get massacred by Wonder Dog. Brought to you by Sean McKeever, writer, and Dan DiDio, who's been the title's very own editor of... Wonder Twins get slaughtered by Wonder Dog…

In the latest sign that the current Teen Titans volume was a huge mistake, the Wonder Twins, who were recently reintro’d…get massacred by Wonder Dog. Brought to you by Sean McKeever, writer, and Dan DiDio, who’s been the title’s very own editor of…

]]> by: Din DaDio http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2254170 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:15:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2254170 Crisis? Did I hear Crisis? Crisis? Did I hear Crisis?

]]> by: Hervé St-Louis http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2252859 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:47:35 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2252859 It's funny. Marvel Comics has been hacking at Skrulls all summer long in the most gruesome manner - heck every page of a Marvel book these days has a Skrull being killed, yet, no one complains. Two non green looking characters are killed by a giant dog, and suddenly, there's a crisis at DC Comics... It’s funny. Marvel Comics has been hacking at Skrulls all summer long in the most gruesome manner - heck every page of a Marvel book these days has a Skrull being killed, yet, no one complains.

Two non green looking characters are killed by a giant dog, and suddenly, there’s a crisis at DC Comics…

]]> by: Marc Arsenault http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2249042 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:39:20 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2249042 Heidi. WTF! How can you say that!!!!!!!!!! Insufferable! WTF!!!!! Alex Toth spits on you from the GRAVE! That first series of Super Friends is eminently watchable and rewatchable for so many reasons. This show had more impact on the environmental movement in the US than just about anything, ever. The conscience of an entire generation was forged by this show! It may seem a little slow, and yes the backgrounds do repeat overmuch, but that show had heart and soul like few others. Wendy, Marvin and Wonderdog were perfect gateway characters for the young viewer to identify with like the Doctor's companions on Doctor Who. I suppose you prefer the Wonder Twins! The animation might not be very animated, but the actual content of the show, like a few other poorly executed products of that and later eras was well written (Return to the Planet of the Apes is so much better then the later movies, but it never moves.) There are so many levels to enjoy that show on, and I am disappointed that you dismiss it out of hand like that. Obviously I hold this show dear, if not, in fact sacred, but it had a heart that so few shows do. It was earnest in its premise in a somewhat naive and hopeful way like so much of what came out in the early 70s. A spirit that had been so thoroughly crushed by the cynicism of the 80s and beyond. Shame! Heidi. WTF! How can you say that!!!!!!!!!! Insufferable! WTF!!!!! Alex Toth spits on you from the GRAVE! That first series of Super Friends is eminently watchable and rewatchable for so many reasons. This show had more impact on the environmental movement in the US than just about anything, ever. The conscience of an entire generation was forged by this show! It may seem a little slow, and yes the backgrounds do repeat overmuch, but that show had heart and soul like few others. Wendy, Marvin and Wonderdog were perfect gateway characters for the young viewer to identify with like the Doctor’s companions on Doctor Who. I suppose you prefer the Wonder Twins! The animation might not be very animated, but the actual content of the show, like a few other poorly executed products of that and later eras was well written (Return to the Planet of the Apes is so much better then the later movies, but it never moves.) There are so many levels to enjoy that show on, and I am disappointed that you dismiss it out of hand like that. Obviously I hold this show dear, if not, in fact sacred, but it had a heart that so few shows do. It was earnest in its premise in a somewhat naive and hopeful way like so much of what came out in the early 70s. A spirit that had been so thoroughly crushed by the cynicism of the 80s and beyond. Shame!

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2248062 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:30:27 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2248062 I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the writer had Wendy try to hide in the refrigerator. I think the most outrageous part of this story is that the writer had Wendy try to hide in the refrigerator.

]]> by: AERose http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244554 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:33:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244554 "So, who’d win in a fight… Wonder Dog or Lockjaw?" Streaky the Super Cat. “So, who’d win in a fight… Wonder Dog or Lockjaw?”

Streaky the Super Cat.

]]> by: Greg Espinoza http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244309 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:27:16 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244309 "Heidi’s comments on this thread demonstrate once again why she’s had such a middlingly mediocre career in comics." Cheap shot, Bill. Heidi's doing just fine. How's your career? Greg Espinoza “Heidi’s comments on this thread demonstrate once again why she’s had such a middlingly mediocre career in comics.”

Cheap shot, Bill. Heidi’s doing just fine. How’s your career?

Greg Espinoza

]]> by: Greg Espinoza http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244298 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:24:07 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244298 (James Van Hise) "Alex Toth: By Design apparently didn’t get all the permissions it needed from Hanna-Barbera or else Toth believed he owned the publishing rights to the drawings. At any rate the book premiered a few years ago at an SD Comicon and by the end of the convention dealers had been forced to pull it from sale, the book was withdrawn from distribution and has never been made available again, except by those people who bought it in the few days it was available from the publisher." By Design was published in 1996, and I bought mine in Rory Root's Comic Relief store sometime in 1997 or '98 when I was working in a Berkeley animation studio. I'm really glad I got it, as it's an absolute inspiration to read through. It's pretty darned expensive now, but worth the money if you can get it. Greg Espinoza (James Van Hise) “Alex Toth: By Design apparently didn’t get all the permissions it needed from Hanna-Barbera or else Toth believed he owned the publishing rights to the drawings. At any rate the book premiered a few years ago at an SD Comicon and by the end of the convention dealers had been forced to pull it from sale, the book was withdrawn from distribution and has never been made available again, except by those people who bought it in the few days it was available from the publisher.”

By Design was published in 1996, and I bought mine in Rory Root’s Comic Relief store sometime in 1997 or ‘98 when I was working in a Berkeley animation studio. I’m really glad I got it, as it’s an absolute inspiration to read through. It’s pretty darned expensive now, but worth the money if you can get it.

Greg Espinoza

]]> by: Tucker Stone http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244242 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:12:00 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244242 Lockjaw would beat Wonder-Dog, no question. This is the best comments thread ever. Lockjaw would beat Wonder-Dog, no question. This is the best comments thread ever.

]]> by: Ian Boothby http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244201 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:59:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244201 That is "How to do it"? If you mean how to get me to drop a book? Yep. Just sad. Normally I'd be against ruining the end of of story but this was ruined as soon as it came out. That is “How to do it”? If you mean how to get me to drop a book? Yep.

Just sad.

Normally I’d be against ruining the end of of story but this was ruined as soon as it came out.

]]> by: Ian Boothby http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244200 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:59:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2244200 That is "How to do it"? If you mean how to get me to drop a book? Yep. Just sad. Normally I'd be against ruining the end of of story but this was vile as soon as it came out. That is “How to do it”? If you mean how to get me to drop a book? Yep.

Just sad.

Normally I’d be against ruining the end of of story but this was vile as soon as it came out.

]]> by: ed http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2243615 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:20:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2243615 So, who'd win in a fight... Wonder Dog or Lockjaw? So, who’d win in a fight… Wonder Dog or Lockjaw?

]]> by: Tom Spurgeon http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2242014 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:27:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2242014 Now I want a giant dog to eat me. Now I want a giant dog to eat me.

]]> by: Steven R. Stahl http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241555 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:50:58 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241555 I doubt that anyone can cite a story in which a character’s demise, resulting from the writer’s disdain for or hatred of that character, actually works. If a character concept is solid, then the treatment of that character should make use of the character’s theme. If the character concept is obviously flawed or invalid (continuity error), then the character isn’t worth using in a story. A comics writer might be faced with a situation in which he has several characters that he doesn’t want to use, but that doesn’t justify trashing them simply to get rid of them quickly. If a writer left a formula romance incomplete, and another writer decided to finish the story by having the female lead and her husband to be killed gruesomely in a car accident, would that be brilliant? Hardly. There are reasons to think that formula fiction generally is junk, but that opinion doesn’t consider individual stories. If the character’s demise was part of a larger point--destroying, say, the Marvel Universe, in order to recreate it with a better framework--then the story might work as constructive criticism. SRS I doubt that anyone can cite a story in which a character’s demise, resulting from the writer’s disdain for or hatred of that character, actually works. If a character concept is solid, then the treatment of that character should make use of the character’s theme. If the character concept is obviously flawed or invalid (continuity error), then the character isn’t worth using in a story. A comics writer might be faced with a situation in which he has several characters that he doesn’t want to use, but that doesn’t justify trashing them simply to get rid of them quickly.

If a writer left a formula romance incomplete, and another writer decided to finish the story by having the female lead and her husband to be killed gruesomely in a car accident, would that be brilliant? Hardly. There are reasons to think that formula fiction generally is junk, but that opinion doesn’t consider individual stories.

If the character’s demise was part of a larger point–destroying, say, the Marvel Universe, in order to recreate it with a better framework–then the story might work as constructive criticism.

SRS

]]> by: Whit Bissel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241527 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:45:20 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241527 @brett Says: Of course, you completely overlooked the point to nitpick on a word in the post instead of commenting on the post itself. Whit, you’re a witty guy. -------- Well, thanks, Brett, I'm gosh-darned pleased as punch. Gee willikkers! Jumpin' Jehosephat!! The "point" is hardly worth commenting on. Being upset because a superhero "cusses" is a little tough to take seriously. But that's just me. You can be as outraged as you wanna be, Bubba. @brett Says: Of course, you completely overlooked the point to nitpick on a word in the post instead of commenting on the post itself.

Whit, you’re a witty guy.
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Well, thanks, Brett, I’m gosh-darned pleased as punch. Gee willikkers! Jumpin’ Jehosephat!!

The “point” is hardly worth commenting on. Being upset because a superhero “cusses” is a little tough to take seriously.

But that’s just me. You can be as outraged as you wanna be, Bubba.

]]> by: michael http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241113 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:02:28 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241113 Hopefully, when I read my issue, all will be explained.... ;) And, I've never been a fan of TWR or MSW! :) Hopefully, when I read my issue, all will be explained…. ;)

And, I’ve never been a fan of TWR or MSW! :)

]]> by: Jacob http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241002 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:32:03 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2241002 How many people decrying this panel actually read the issue? Seems like not many have… Sounds about right for comic book outrage. -------------- Yep... How many people decrying this panel actually read the issue? Seems like not many have…

Sounds about right for comic book outrage.
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Yep…

]]> by: brett http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2240419 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:03:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2240419 Whit -- People say 'cuss' when they are referring to someone who speaks with a foul mouth, foul language... Fu**, bi%ch, etc. Many people pronounce it as 'cursing' but that could be mistaken as someone putting a hex on someone. To differentiate between the two, I used the term 'cuss'. Of course, you completely overlooked the point to nitpick on a word in the post instead of commenting on the post itself. Whit, you're a witty guy. Whit —

People say ‘cuss’ when they are referring to someone who speaks with a foul mouth, foul language… Fu**, bi%ch, etc.

Many people pronounce it as ‘cursing’ but that could be mistaken as someone putting a hex on someone.

To differentiate between the two, I used the term ‘cuss’.

Of course, you completely overlooked the point to nitpick on a word in the post instead of commenting on the post itself.

Whit, you’re a witty guy.

]]> by: Torsten Adair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2238239 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:05:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2238239 Scanned this at the comics shop. Was more surprised over Miss Martian's recovery after that gladiator thing. No feelings over Wendy and Marvin. At least the Super Twins still exist. Oh, and just like Ms. Beat, Wendy and Marvin still exist in the Kingdom Come universe, as do the Cosby Kids. Superfriends, like Land Of The Lost, was repeated every summer. IT WAS A SATURDAY MORNING CARTOON. All it had to do was fire our sugarcrusted neurons for a few hours! And We Loved It! I could wax nostalgic over the Krofts, Shazam, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends... Friends, go buy and read Superman/Batman #51. The scene with Robin is worth the price of the comic! Alfred has some good lines, too. Scanned this at the comics shop. Was more surprised over Miss Martian’s recovery after that gladiator thing. No feelings over Wendy and Marvin. At least the Super Twins still exist. Oh, and just like Ms. Beat, Wendy and Marvin still exist in the Kingdom Come universe, as do the Cosby Kids.
Superfriends, like Land Of The Lost, was repeated every summer. IT WAS A SATURDAY MORNING CARTOON. All it had to do was fire our sugarcrusted neurons for a few hours! And We Loved It! I could wax nostalgic over the Krofts, Shazam, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends…
Friends, go buy and read Superman/Batman #51. The scene with Robin is worth the price of the comic! Alfred has some good lines, too.

]]> by: DRM http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2237247 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:43:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2237247 I found this thread more dramatic than the issue in question. I found this thread more dramatic than the issue in question.

]]> by: Tom Spurgeon http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236815 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:11:00 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236815 That Michael Vick joke is funny. That Michael Vick joke is funny.

]]> by: Mithel http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236799 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:05:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236799 This was just atrocious. What do we get out of this issue? An offpanel death, then several pages of a defenseless woman screaming in terror until she is slaughtered by an enormous dog wearing a cape. Did we really need to add another count of sexualized violence against females to DC's rap sheet? As the previous poster remarked, "Classy." What really gets me is that these characters don't even have an out for resurrection. They are only human, after all. No speed force, no Martian trickery, no yellow sun, just dead. This was just atrocious. What do we get out of this issue? An offpanel death, then several pages of a defenseless woman screaming in terror until she is slaughtered by an enormous dog wearing a cape. Did we really need to add another count of sexualized violence against females to DC’s rap sheet? As the previous poster remarked, “Classy.”

What really gets me is that these characters don’t even have an out for resurrection. They are only human, after all. No speed force, no Martian trickery, no yellow sun, just dead.

]]> by: C. E. Grayson http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236781 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:01:32 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236781 Is no one else primarily offended because this is just a rip off of Osiris/Sobek from 52? And they were ven telegraphing their unoriginality in the same panel? Just me, then? ok. carry on. Is no one else primarily offended because this is just a rip off of Osiris/Sobek from 52? And they were ven telegraphing their unoriginality in the same panel?

Just me, then? ok. carry on.

]]> by: Fred the Frown http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236670 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:32:09 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/08/29/death-comes-suddenlyunexpectedly/#comment-2236670 That damn Michael Vick! His dog fights are REALLY getting out of hand. That damn Michael Vick! His dog fights are REALLY getting out of hand.

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