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	<title>Comments on: ALL-STAR BATMAN&#8217;s bad language</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/</link>
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2321007</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2321007</guid>
					<description>I wish I'd said that.</description>
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2317408</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2317408</guid>
					<description>You know, having opposable thumbs does not mean that you actually have to publicly oppose them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, having opposable thumbs does not mean that you actually have to publicly oppose them&#8230;
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2315439</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2315439</guid>
					<description>Oops.  My thumb must have hit the submit button somewhere along the way.
How embarrassing.  DAMNABLE THUMB!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  My thumb must have hit the submit button somewhere along the way.<br />
How embarrassing.  DAMNABLE THUMB!!!!
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313438</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313438</guid>
					<description>No, it's not _the_ Kurt Busiek posting here. It's the one who writes comic books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not _the_ Kurt Busiek posting here. It&#8217;s the one who writes comic books.
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313155</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313155</guid>
					<description>Several generations worth of people have grown up with this character, such that, it appeals across the board.  Young and old.  So, it makes sense that the producers of the motion picture, would want it to appeal across the board, also.
The deal being, that they hyped the nature of the film in the advertising for it.  To Holy Heck, they hyped it.
I didn't get anything from the hype for All-Star Batman (...etc.) that it was anything other than yet another all ages thing.  Therefore, when the gosh-darn Bats-man showed up, I, for one, was taken aback,...intrigued at first,...ultimately turned off.  But that Jim Lee art and the coloration of the comic (...my apologies, I've forgotten who the colorist is,...) has made it almost impossible for me NOT to pick up this book.  I only read the word balloons, at this point, to see how bad Frank Miller is going to piss me off this time.
I suppose, knowing that it is Miller I should be more prepped for something a little more,...what?  Better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several generations worth of people have grown up with this character, such that, it appeals across the board.  Young and old.  So, it makes sense that the producers of the motion picture, would want it to appeal across the board, also.<br />
The deal being, that they hyped the nature of the film in the advertising for it.  To Holy Heck, they hyped it.<br />
I didn&#8217;t get anything from the hype for All-Star Batman (&#8230;etc.) that it was anything other than yet another all ages thing.  Therefore, when the gosh-darn Bats-man showed up, I, for one, was taken aback,&#8230;intrigued at first,&#8230;ultimately turned off.  But that Jim Lee art and the coloration of the comic (&#8230;my apologies, I&#8217;ve forgotten who the colorist is,&#8230;) has made it almost impossible for me NOT to pick up this book.  I only read the word balloons, at this point, to see how bad Frank Miller is going to piss me off this time.<br />
I suppose, knowing that it is Miller I should be more prepped for something a little more,&#8230;what?  Better?
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313110</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2313110</guid>
					<description>Several generations worth of people have grown up with this character, such that, it appeals across the board.  Young and old.  So, it makes sense that the producers of the motion picture, would want it to appeal across the board, also.
The deal being, that they hyped the nature of the film in the advertising.
I didn't get anything from the hype for All-Star Batman (...etc.) that it was anything other than yet another all ages thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several generations worth of people have grown up with this character, such that, it appeals across the board.  Young and old.  So, it makes sense that the producers of the motion picture, would want it to appeal across the board, also.<br />
The deal being, that they hyped the nature of the film in the advertising.<br />
I didn&#8217;t get anything from the hype for All-Star Batman (&#8230;etc.) that it was anything other than yet another all ages thing.
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		<title>by: Lew Stringer</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2312289</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2312289</guid>
					<description>Fair point about the  adult tone of the movie, but people tend to see comics differently. Such as the example I mentioned of the concerned mother who phoned the talk show to complain about the comic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point about the  adult tone of the movie, but people tend to see comics differently. Such as the example I mentioned of the concerned mother who phoned the talk show to complain about the comic.
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		<title>by: Jon z</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2311683</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2311683</guid>
					<description>holy crap, is that _the_ kurt busiek posting on this blog!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap, is that _the_ kurt busiek posting on this blog!?
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2311127</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2311127</guid>
					<description>&quot;All of my friends outside of comics consider Batman to be a children’s character.&quot;

And yet in North America, people have spent more than half a billion dollars this summer to see a version of the Batman that was marked as parents being strongly cautioned, as some material may be unsuitable for pre-teens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All of my friends outside of comics consider Batman to be a children’s character.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yet in North America, people have spent more than half a billion dollars this summer to see a version of the Batman that was marked as parents being strongly cautioned, as some material may be unsuitable for pre-teens.
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310793</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310793</guid>
					<description>Actually, Lew,...(May I call you Lew?)  my moaning was more directed at Mr. Gertler's (May I call him Mr. Gertler?) post than yours.  Although I appreciate your effort. (And Mr. Gertler's.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Lew,&#8230;(May I call you Lew?)  my moaning was more directed at Mr. Gertler&#8217;s (May I call him Mr. Gertler?) post than yours.  Although I appreciate your effort. (And Mr. Gertler&#8217;s.)
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		<title>by: Lew Stringer</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310701</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310701</guid>
					<description>Steve Taylor Says:
09/10/08 at 9:13 pm

&quot;Then I was sold a bill of goods. Because I wasn’t interested in a parody and no one mentioned that it was supposed to be a satire.
Personally, I don’t find it funny.&quot;


Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. As I said, it's *Titan* who labeled it a parody. In the UK Titan publish Batman Legends monthly which reprints All-Star Batman along with the other Batman comics in a 76 page comic.  DC did not, to my knowledge, call it a parody. 

This is solely Titan's take on it to explain to their readers why everyone in All-Star Batman is acting like a jerk I guess.

#  AndyD Says:
09/10/08 at 8:01 am

&quot;Who in his right mind sees All Star Batman as a kids comic in the first place? This is absolutly ridiculous.&quot;

Who except comic book fans see All-Star Batman as an adult comic? All of my friends outside of comics consider Batman to be a children's character. (Merchandise from Batman lunchboxes to Batman costumes for five year olds tends to reinforce that image.) It's therefore not unrealistic to then expect those people to see All-Star Batman on the shelves and think it's ok for kids. Particularly when the trade dress favours Robin over Batman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Taylor Says:<br />
09/10/08 at 9:13 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Then I was sold a bill of goods. Because I wasn’t interested in a parody and no one mentioned that it was supposed to be a satire.<br />
Personally, I don’t find it funny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps I wasn&#8217;t clear enough. As I said, it&#8217;s *Titan* who labeled it a parody. In the UK Titan publish Batman Legends monthly which reprints All-Star Batman along with the other Batman comics in a 76 page comic.  DC did not, to my knowledge, call it a parody. </p>
<p>This is solely Titan&#8217;s take on it to explain to their readers why everyone in All-Star Batman is acting like a jerk I guess.</p>
<p>#  AndyD Says:<br />
09/10/08 at 8:01 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Who in his right mind sees All Star Batman as a kids comic in the first place? This is absolutly ridiculous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who except comic book fans see All-Star Batman as an adult comic? All of my friends outside of comics consider Batman to be a children&#8217;s character. (Merchandise from Batman lunchboxes to Batman costumes for five year olds tends to reinforce that image.) It&#8217;s therefore not unrealistic to then expect those people to see All-Star Batman on the shelves and think it&#8217;s ok for kids. Particularly when the trade dress favours Robin over Batman.
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		<title>by: [out] Entintador de cómics: el caso de Batman &#171; El club de los negocios raros</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310468</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2310468</guid>
					<description>[...] Efectivamente, ahora se ha sabido que el causante de esta retirada forzosa ha sido la impresión incorrecta del ejemplar. Algunos de los bocadillos de Batman contienen expresiones &amp;#8220;ofensivas&amp;#8221; que Frank Miller (el guionista) ha querido dejar, aunque tachadas en negro. Sin embargo, la impresión final del cómic se ha hecho con una tinta negra que transparenta las palabras censuradas. Así se explica en The Beat el uso indebido del &amp;#8220;rich black&amp;#8221; en este caso: Just having looked at scans over the Internet, it looks to me like the lettering is printed using just black ink, while the bars were put on a different layer using “rich black”, which is a mixture of all four color inks. “Rich black” makes a darker, more vibrant black. On the computer screen, it would all just look black, but the difference will be visible on the printed page. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Efectivamente, ahora se ha sabido que el causante de esta retirada forzosa ha sido la impresión incorrecta del ejemplar. Algunos de los bocadillos de Batman contienen expresiones &#8220;ofensivas&#8221; que Frank Miller (el guionista) ha querido dejar, aunque tachadas en negro. Sin embargo, la impresión final del cómic se ha hecho con una tinta negra que transparenta las palabras censuradas. Así se explica en The Beat el uso indebido del &#8220;rich black&#8221; en este caso: Just having looked at scans over the Internet, it looks to me like the lettering is printed using just black ink, while the bars were put on a different layer using “rich black”, which is a mixture of all four color inks. “Rich black” makes a darker, more vibrant black. On the computer screen, it would all just look black, but the difference will be visible on the printed page. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309446</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309446</guid>
					<description>It was a book that emphasized Robin, The Boy Wonder in the title, which certainly suggested to me that either it was going to be a very earnest kiddie book, or was going to have a rip at it. And given that it was by the author of the Dark Knight Strikes Again, I certainly knew which one of those I expected. But even in that context, it may not be to your taste.

There certainly seem to be people who bought issue after issue of a book they didn't like. I'm really not clear why they bought it if they disliked it so much. Dislike the first issue, sure, blame the writer. Dislike the first nine issues, I think you only have yourself to blame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a book that emphasized Robin, The Boy Wonder in the title, which certainly suggested to me that either it was going to be a very earnest kiddie book, or was going to have a rip at it. And given that it was by the author of the Dark Knight Strikes Again, I certainly knew which one of those I expected. But even in that context, it may not be to your taste.</p>
<p>There certainly seem to be people who bought issue after issue of a book they didn&#8217;t like. I&#8217;m really not clear why they bought it if they disliked it so much. Dislike the first issue, sure, blame the writer. Dislike the first nine issues, I think you only have yourself to blame&#8230;
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309408</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309408</guid>
					<description>The All Star line was created as a place where hot creators could tell the out-of-continuity stories they wanted to tell. At the time, everybody thought this was a superb idea.

Readers got what they asked for, they just didn't realize what they were asking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The All Star line was created as a place where hot creators could tell the out-of-continuity stories they wanted to tell. At the time, everybody thought this was a superb idea.</p>
<p>Readers got what they asked for, they just didn&#8217;t realize what they were asking for.
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309314</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309314</guid>
					<description>Then I was sold a bill of goods.  Because I wasn't interested in a parody and no one mentioned that it was supposed to be a satire.
Personally, I don't find it funny.
Let me look back at past issues and see if I get that.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I was sold a bill of goods.  Because I wasn&#8217;t interested in a parody and no one mentioned that it was supposed to be a satire.<br />
Personally, I don&#8217;t find it funny.<br />
Let me look back at past issues and see if I get that.<br />
Thanks.
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309221</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309221</guid>
					<description>It amuses me. Whatever else anyone has to say about it, it ain't boring.

I think some people are misunderstanding the work, possibly due in part to the art style. They act like it's an insult to say it's a parody or a comedy.... as if this was Miller trying to write Year One again and failing. No, this is the Miller of Hard Boiled, of RoboCop, and yes, of the Dark Knight volumes. This is satire via excess and extremeness.

If that's not what you're looking for, there is no shortage of other Batman books to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amuses me. Whatever else anyone has to say about it, it ain&#8217;t boring.</p>
<p>I think some people are misunderstanding the work, possibly due in part to the art style. They act like it&#8217;s an insult to say it&#8217;s a parody or a comedy&#8230;. as if this was Miller trying to write Year One again and failing. No, this is the Miller of Hard Boiled, of RoboCop, and yes, of the Dark Knight volumes. This is satire via excess and extremeness.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re looking for, there is no shortage of other Batman books to read.
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		<title>by: Fox</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309220</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309220</guid>
					<description>Why not just Python it?

Silly bunts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just Python it?</p>
<p>Silly bunts.
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309123</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2309123</guid>
					<description>Really!?
Maybe you could enlighten me as to why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really!?<br />
Maybe you could enlighten me as to why.
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308974</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308974</guid>
					<description>&quot;This book isn’t selling because of Frank Miller,…it’s selling because of Jim Lee.&quot;

With all respect to the talented Mr. Lee, I'm buying it because of Miller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This book isn’t selling because of Frank Miller,…it’s selling because of Jim Lee.&#8221;</p>
<p>With all respect to the talented Mr. Lee, I&#8217;m buying it because of Miller.
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		<title>by: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308724</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308724</guid>
					<description>&quot;But yeah, what Adair said. Propping up a non-existing story with gutter speak is the mark of a 13-year old who thinks this is how grown-ups talk. Strangely enough, 1986 Frank Miller didn’t need that at all. But 2008 Frank Miller has obviously gone off the deep end.&quot;

My 10-year-old self remembers rushing home with Dark Knight issue 3 and reading the commissioner yelling over her walkie-talkie for a helicopter to &quot;Come in low and blow this shit away&quot;. Is this not in the subsequent trade reprints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But yeah, what Adair said. Propping up a non-existing story with gutter speak is the mark of a 13-year old who thinks this is how grown-ups talk. Strangely enough, 1986 Frank Miller didn’t need that at all. But 2008 Frank Miller has obviously gone off the deep end.&#8221;</p>
<p>My 10-year-old self remembers rushing home with Dark Knight issue 3 and reading the commissioner yelling over her walkie-talkie for a helicopter to &#8220;Come in low and blow this shit away&#8221;. Is this not in the subsequent trade reprints?
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		<title>by: Lew Stringer</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308615</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308615</guid>
					<description>That's ok Mr.Taylor. Easily done. 

Funnily enough, here in the UK, Titan have been referring to All-Star Batman as a parody when they reprint it in Batman Legends. That's one way of looking at it I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s ok Mr.Taylor. Easily done. </p>
<p>Funnily enough, here in the UK, Titan have been referring to All-Star Batman as a parody when they reprint it in Batman Legends. That&#8217;s one way of looking at it I suppose.
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308126</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I inadvertently left part of the excerpt from Mr. Stringer's quote, that I used as a reference for my scathing comments above,...neglecting to delete them before posting and I apologize for that.</description>
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		<title>by: Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308024</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2308024</guid>
					<description>&quot;Of course they can deal with it. However, Batman, All-Star or otherwise, isn’t an adult comic though. Simple as that really.&quot;

That's my point!  Since when ISN'T All-Star Batman And Robin The Boy Wonder NOT an all ages book?  It wasn't solicited as an &quot;adult&quot; book and there was nothing to indicate that it was intended to be anything BUT an all ages book, until the &quot;God-damned Batman&quot; stuff started popping up.  Well,...that and the guy wearing the cowl's over all shitty attitude.  This version of the character SUCKS!!!  This book isn't selling because of Frank Miller,...it's selling because of Jim Lee.  Miller owes the Batman audience an apology and as far as I'm concerned you can scrap the whole story and just publish the artwork with empty word balloons so that we can all  make up our own crap. Why should Miller be the only one who works out his neurosis here?    

Also, it’s not a case of the audience’s sensitivities, - it’s the trouble that pressure groups and the like could kick up. Kids in the Fifties loved horror comics, - it was “well meaning” outsiders that closed them down.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s my point!  Since when ISN&#8217;T All-Star Batman And Robin The Boy Wonder NOT an all ages book?  It wasn&#8217;t solicited as an &#8220;adult&#8221; book and there was nothing to indicate that it was intended to be anything BUT an all ages book, until the &#8220;God-damned Batman&#8221; stuff started popping up.  Well,&#8230;that and the guy wearing the cowl&#8217;s over all shitty attitude.  This version of the character SUCKS!!!  This book isn&#8217;t selling because of Frank Miller,&#8230;it&#8217;s selling because of Jim Lee.  Miller owes the Batman audience an apology and as far as I&#8217;m concerned you can scrap the whole story and just publish the artwork with empty word balloons so that we can all  make up our own crap. Why should Miller be the only one who works out his neurosis here?    </p>
<p>Also, it’s not a case of the audience’s sensitivities, - it’s the trouble that pressure groups and the like could kick up. Kids in the Fifties loved horror comics, - it was “well meaning” outsiders that closed them down.
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		<title>by: Brian Winkeler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307401</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;The right way of doing it is to do whatever method you’re doing correctly.&quot;

Whatever. I wasn't aware of them wanting the aesthetics of the letter edges. I guess this is why I don't buy ASBAR - or really much else in the way of mainstream superhero books these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The right way of doing it is to do whatever method you’re doing correctly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whatever. I wasn&#8217;t aware of them wanting the aesthetics of the letter edges. I guess this is why I don&#8217;t buy ASBAR - or really much else in the way of mainstream superhero books these days.
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		<title>by: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307371</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Cheese and rice almighty! it's astonishing what they put in comics these days!</description>
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		<title>by: RichYan33</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307316</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307316</guid>
					<description>Note. I asked a local comic dealer if he was going to trash them and his response was &quot;hell no&quot;. DC makes the dealers by 900 issues of some piece of crap they publish just to get one alternate cover and now they want favors from the dealers??? Don't see it happening.

Mine will be on eBay tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note. I asked a local comic dealer if he was going to trash them and his response was &#8220;hell no&#8221;. DC makes the dealers by 900 issues of some piece of crap they publish just to get one alternate cover and now they want favors from the dealers??? Don&#8217;t see it happening.</p>
<p>Mine will be on eBay tomorrow.
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		<title>by: STWALLSKULL &#187; INTERESTING LINKS: Google to Digitize Newspapers!!! : September 10th, 2008</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307205</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2307205</guid>
					<description>[...] All-Star Batman’s bad language from THE BEAT [...]</description>
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		<title>by: Nat Gertler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306980</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306980</guid>
					<description>&quot;Seems to me that, in the future, the smart thing to do if they want the black bars to be the right length, would be to change the offensive words to white, so there’s no chance of them showing up at all beneath whatever color the bars are.&quot;

And then they accidentally go and put the lettering layer on top of the bar layer, knock out the black there, and the curses are clearly readable in reverse. (And it looks like they also wanted the edges of the letters visible, and white wouldn't have that effect.)

The right way of doing it is to do whatever method you're doing correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seems to me that, in the future, the smart thing to do if they want the black bars to be the right length, would be to change the offensive words to white, so there’s no chance of them showing up at all beneath whatever color the bars are.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then they accidentally go and put the lettering layer on top of the bar layer, knock out the black there, and the curses are clearly readable in reverse. (And it looks like they also wanted the edges of the letters visible, and white wouldn&#8217;t have that effect.)</p>
<p>The right way of doing it is to do whatever method you&#8217;re doing correctly.
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		<title>by: Cyrion</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306970</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306970</guid>
					<description>This so reminds me of that scene in FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL, when Hugh Grant, annoyed at himself in the church, goes &quot;bugger bugger bugger&quot;, and the priest comes in and says *is there anything I can help you with, my son?*

But yeah, what Adair said. Propping up a non-existing story with gutter speak is the mark of a 13-year old who thinks this is how grown-ups talk. Strangely enough, 1986 Frank Miller didn't need that at all. But 2008 Frank Miller has obviously gone off the deep end. 

*snark* It happens when you do coke with Ben Silverman and the rest of the Hollywood crowd *snark*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This so reminds me of that scene in FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL, when Hugh Grant, annoyed at himself in the church, goes &#8220;bugger bugger bugger&#8221;, and the priest comes in and says *is there anything I can help you with, my son?*</p>
<p>But yeah, what Adair said. Propping up a non-existing story with gutter speak is the mark of a 13-year old who thinks this is how grown-ups talk. Strangely enough, 1986 Frank Miller didn&#8217;t need that at all. But 2008 Frank Miller has obviously gone off the deep end. </p>
<p>*snark* It happens when you do coke with Ben Silverman and the rest of the Hollywood crowd *snark*
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		<title>by: Brian Winkeler</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306909</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/09/all-star-batmans-bad-language/#comment-2306909</guid>
					<description>Seems to me that, in the future, the smart thing to do if they want the black bars to be the right length, would be to change the offensive words to white, so there's no chance of them showing up at all beneath whatever color the bars are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that, in the future, the smart thing to do if they want the black bars to be the right length, would be to change the offensive words to white, so there&#8217;s no chance of them showing up at all beneath whatever color the bars are.
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