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		<title>by: dave we</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-3182219</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</description>
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		<title>by: Fazal</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2391873</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2391873</guid>
					<description>I don't know how exciting this is.  It's seems to me that this is a clear marketing effort in preparation for the next Iron Man and Hulk movies -- similar to the online comics that TV shows have up on their websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how exciting this is.  It&#8217;s seems to me that this is a clear marketing effort in preparation for the next Iron Man and Hulk movies &#8212; similar to the online comics that TV shows have up on their websites.
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		<title>by: The New Medium &#171; The Webcomic Overlook</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2341696</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2341696</guid>
					<description>[...] The New&amp;#160;Medium  18 09 2008   I don&amp;#8217;t know how I managed to miss this, but a couple of days ago PW Beat mentioned that Marvel was going to produce their own original webcomics (here too). These include two rather lightweight-sounding titles with obvious ties to this year&amp;#8217;s blockbusters: &amp;#8220;Iron Man: Fast Friends&amp;#8221; and &amp;#8220;Incredible Hulk: The Fury Files&amp;#8221; (with the Sam Jackson Nick Fury). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The New&nbsp;Medium  18 09 2008   I don&#8217;t know how I managed to miss this, but a couple of days ago PW Beat mentioned that Marvel was going to produce their own original webcomics (here too). These include two rather lightweight-sounding titles with obvious ties to this year&#8217;s blockbusters: &#8220;Iron Man: Fast Friends&#8221; and &#8220;Incredible Hulk: The Fury Files&#8221; (with the Sam Jackson Nick Fury). [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: bryant</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2337379</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2337379</guid>
					<description>Marvel isn't in business to experiment with new technologies. If these prove popular, they'll be collected into trades and sold in comic shops and bookstores. 

Why would Marvel intentionally turn down the chance to make more money with the same amount of investment?

If this plan is subscription based, the readership will be underwhelming (part of the reason webcomics are enormously popular is that they're for the most part free): It'll be a subsection of the audience who visits the comic store every Wednesday and wants their fix of X-Ironhulkman and already pays for that pleasure. 

New readers (the ones less inclined to visit a comic shop, but see graphic novels at Borders or at their library and are marginally curious) will pretty much ignore the project. 

Twelve months in, Marvel's suspicions that no one really wants to read comics online will be confirmed and they'll shut it down without fanfare.

If the plan is free, there's the potential that those marginally curious readers (the ones who saw Iron Man and Batman in the theaters) will check it out, enjoy it enough to follow the things regularly (lining the pockets of the advertisers) and mutate into regular consumers of Marvel products.

Or they'll continue to ignore it. It's difficult to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvel isn&#8217;t in business to experiment with new technologies. If these prove popular, they&#8217;ll be collected into trades and sold in comic shops and bookstores. </p>
<p>Why would Marvel intentionally turn down the chance to make more money with the same amount of investment?</p>
<p>If this plan is subscription based, the readership will be underwhelming (part of the reason webcomics are enormously popular is that they&#8217;re for the most part free): It&#8217;ll be a subsection of the audience who visits the comic store every Wednesday and wants their fix of X-Ironhulkman and already pays for that pleasure. </p>
<p>New readers (the ones less inclined to visit a comic shop, but see graphic novels at Borders or at their library and are marginally curious) will pretty much ignore the project. </p>
<p>Twelve months in, Marvel&#8217;s suspicions that no one really wants to read comics online will be confirmed and they&#8217;ll shut it down without fanfare.</p>
<p>If the plan is free, there&#8217;s the potential that those marginally curious readers (the ones who saw Iron Man and Batman in the theaters) will check it out, enjoy it enough to follow the things regularly (lining the pockets of the advertisers) and mutate into regular consumers of Marvel products.</p>
<p>Or they&#8217;ll continue to ignore it. It&#8217;s difficult to say.
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2337361</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2337361</guid>
					<description>&quot;But now, it can be “more” than a comic, more than a printed pile of paper with a staple driven through it. It can have sound, motion, become a flash-(ahem) based comic. A new media comic.&quot;

Right ... basically, it's more than a comic ... it becomes a low-budget cartoon.  Just wait ... people will soon be criticizing them for that, too ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But now, it can be “more” than a comic, more than a printed pile of paper with a staple driven through it. It can have sound, motion, become a flash-(ahem) based comic. A new media comic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right &#8230; basically, it&#8217;s more than a comic &#8230; it becomes a low-budget cartoon.  Just wait &#8230; people will soon be criticizing them for that, too &#8230;
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		<title>by: Al</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2336638</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2336638</guid>
					<description>If the traditional printed comic goes the way of the dodo bird, then we have a new creature in the digital comic. Or a mutated one.

The Digital Comic is only visible electronically. Okay, yes, maybe you could print screen grabs to read, but essentially it it visible only on your screen.

You collect them on hard drives like your collection of Dexter episodes, you buy the collected season on dvd or burn your own.

But now, it can be &quot;more&quot; than a comic, more than a printed pile of paper with a staple driven through it. It can have sound, motion, become a flash-(ahem) based comic. A new media comic.

Me, I enjoy reading the paper comic. I read it sitting, standing, eating, lying on the sofa, or anywhere there is sufficient light. But then, I still tape tv shows on my ten-year-old VCR, which works just fine. I don't need the latest and greatest technology all the time. Maybe the new comics, the Digital Comics, are not meant for everyone, just for the people who enjoy reading on the home plasma tv, their laptop, cell or watch.

No longboxes, no worries about damaging the spine while reading them, but no joy of collecting the tactile paper versions either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the traditional printed comic goes the way of the dodo bird, then we have a new creature in the digital comic. Or a mutated one.</p>
<p>The Digital Comic is only visible electronically. Okay, yes, maybe you could print screen grabs to read, but essentially it it visible only on your screen.</p>
<p>You collect them on hard drives like your collection of Dexter episodes, you buy the collected season on dvd or burn your own.</p>
<p>But now, it can be &#8220;more&#8221; than a comic, more than a printed pile of paper with a staple driven through it. It can have sound, motion, become a flash-(ahem) based comic. A new media comic.</p>
<p>Me, I enjoy reading the paper comic. I read it sitting, standing, eating, lying on the sofa, or anywhere there is sufficient light. But then, I still tape tv shows on my ten-year-old VCR, which works just fine. I don&#8217;t need the latest and greatest technology all the time. Maybe the new comics, the Digital Comics, are not meant for everyone, just for the people who enjoy reading on the home plasma tv, their laptop, cell or watch.</p>
<p>No longboxes, no worries about damaging the spine while reading them, but no joy of collecting the tactile paper versions either.
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		<title>by: JM Ringuet</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2336328</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2336328</guid>
					<description>Rich said: Funny thing is, I’ve often wondered if this won’t be a problem with the digital media. If all comics went digital, how long before they are forgotten?

Well actually there are a lot of online comics right now with a lot of readers (some even around 200,000 readers from what I've heard) so there is definitely no need for a physical presence to have a lot of readers. Comics on cellphones are also doing very very well in Japan (and those are sold).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich said: Funny thing is, I’ve often wondered if this won’t be a problem with the digital media. If all comics went digital, how long before they are forgotten?</p>
<p>Well actually there are a lot of online comics right now with a lot of readers (some even around 200,000 readers from what I&#8217;ve heard) so there is definitely no need for a physical presence to have a lot of readers. Comics on cellphones are also doing very very well in Japan (and those are sold).
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		<title>by: Joe Infurnari</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334547</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334547</guid>
					<description>Heidi-sense!? Hmmm...what would that be like if you had a graphic to go along with it? I wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi-sense!? Hmmm&#8230;what would that be like if you had a graphic to go along with it? I wonder.
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		<title>by: Jamie Coville</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334238</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334238</guid>
					<description>It will be interesting to see how the dead tree version of these comics sell, particularly in the bookstore market and DM. 

Also, how will Marvel advertises them? The comic book locater service should be a given, but would they put up an Amazon link? Or sell them directly to consumers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how the dead tree version of these comics sell, particularly in the bookstore market and DM. </p>
<p>Also, how will Marvel advertises them? The comic book locater service should be a given, but would they put up an Amazon link? Or sell them directly to consumers?
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		<title>by: rich</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334166</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2334166</guid>
					<description>&quot;These questions must be answered or the collector in me will not be able to enter the brave new world.&quot;

Funny thing is, I've often wondered if this won't be a problem with the digital media.  If all comics went digital, how long before they are forgotten? The print comic provides a physical presence, and a reminder that the comics are available.  With digital comics, unless the fans are absolutely ravenous for a certain title, how long before they begin missing issues? &quot;Ah, no hurry.  I can download them anytime.&quot;  With a physical presence missing, comics could eventually move even further down the Importance Ladder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These questions must be answered or the collector in me will not be able to enter the brave new world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny thing is, I&#8217;ve often wondered if this won&#8217;t be a problem with the digital media.  If all comics went digital, how long before they are forgotten? The print comic provides a physical presence, and a reminder that the comics are available.  With digital comics, unless the fans are absolutely ravenous for a certain title, how long before they begin missing issues? &#8220;Ah, no hurry.  I can download them anytime.&#8221;  With a physical presence missing, comics could eventually move even further down the Importance Ladder.
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		<title>by: Patrick Scullin</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2333680</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Which mylar and boards will fit my digital comics collection?  Where to I store my digital long boxes? How do I grade the quality of my digital comic books?  These questions must be answered or the collector in me will not be able to enter the brave new world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which mylar and boards will fit my digital comics collection?  Where to I store my digital long boxes? How do I grade the quality of my digital comic books?  These questions must be answered or the collector in me will not be able to enter the brave new world.
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		<title>by: Scott Bieser</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332931</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332931</guid>
					<description>Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is a milestone of some sort, but we won't know exactly what for a while.

But I don't think I want to know what it feels like when your Heidi-sense is tingling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m pretty sure this is a milestone of some sort, but we won&#8217;t know exactly what for a while.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think I want to know what it feels like when your Heidi-sense is tingling.
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		<title>by: MarkCalifornia</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332820</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm more curious as to how well the whole subscription thing is working for them. Considering how badly this model generally works on the web these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more curious as to how well the whole subscription thing is working for them. Considering how badly this model generally works on the web these days.
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332730</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My understanding is that the newsstand market had been marginalizing itself for some time before the Direct Market became perceived as a viable solution.</description>
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		<title>by: arch 14</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332651</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>this seems kind of cool.</description>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332527</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah...  remember when Marvel started producing titles only for the Direct Market?  Moon Knight and Ka-Zar and ...     This original content is interesting.  I wonder when we will see print titles migrate to Marvel.com?  Will a shift to digital distribution signal the marginalization of the Direct Market, in much the same way that a shift to the Direct Market signalled the marginalization of newsstand distribution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;  remember when Marvel started producing titles only for the Direct Market?  Moon Knight and Ka-Zar and &#8230;     This original content is interesting.  I wonder when we will see print titles migrate to Marvel.com?  Will a shift to digital distribution signal the marginalization of the Direct Market, in much the same way that a shift to the Direct Market signalled the marginalization of newsstand distribution?
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		<title>by: Andrew Wickliffe</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332492</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But does Bruce Banner look like Ed Norton, as Norton is saying Marvel is being wishy-washy on if they want him back as the Hulk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But does Bruce Banner look like Ed Norton, as Norton is saying Marvel is being wishy-washy on if they want him back as the Hulk
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/16/marvel-goes-online-2/#comment-2332470</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting that Marvel jumps into webcomics with well-known characters and established (but not superstar) artists, whereas DC/Zuda does original properties and largely new creators (or at least ones who don't have long Big-Two resumes).  Wondering why there can't be a combination of the two instead of this either/or situation.</description>
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