Comments on: New SPIRIT posters! http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:26:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Blackeye http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2391872 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:23:00 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2391872 When this movie fails, miserably, Hollywood might start second guessing turning comic books into movies. Can you imagine if Frank Miller destroyed all those comic book creator's dreams? What kind of backlash will there be against his excellency, Frank Miller? Hey look, the emperor isn't wearing any clothes... When this movie fails, miserably, Hollywood might start second guessing turning comic books into movies. Can you imagine if Frank Miller destroyed all those comic book creator’s dreams? What kind of backlash will there be against his excellency, Frank Miller? Hey look, the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes…

]]> by: Cary Coatney http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2364634 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:31:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2364634 Well Rivkah - let me put it in another prospective: Miller will turn out to be as much a professional director as much as O.J. Simpson once claimed to be a professional actor ( as lot of professional football stars often do) without taking professional acting lessons I just don't think Frank Miller has the credentials to be a hot shot Hollywood movie director - A writer, yes, but director no. ~ Coat Well Rivkah - let me put it in another prospective: Miller will turn out to be as much a professional director as much as O.J. Simpson once claimed to be a professional actor ( as lot of professional football stars often do) without taking professional acting lessons

I just don’t think Frank Miller has the credentials to be a hot shot Hollywood movie director - A writer, yes, but director no.

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Coat

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]]> by: rev'D http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361803 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:48:43 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361803 Miller's been pretty moribund (if not altogether creatively bankrupt) for a while now-- but I recall he was hitting a similar slump prior to his -first- sojourn into Hollywood. If he's really & truly incapable of telling a decent comic story anymore, he'll surely fit right in; on the other hand, if the current desecration of The Spirit tanks out, maybe he'll see fit to come crawling back with a fresh (or at least refreshing) body of work. That's how we wound up with the first 'Sin City' serial in Dark Horse, after all... Wouldn't be a bad thing either way. Miller’s been pretty moribund (if not altogether creatively bankrupt) for a while now– but I recall he was hitting a similar slump prior to his -first- sojourn into Hollywood. If he’s really & truly incapable of telling a decent comic story anymore, he’ll surely fit right in; on the other hand, if the current desecration of The Spirit tanks out, maybe he’ll see fit to come crawling back with a fresh (or at least refreshing) body of work. That’s how we wound up with the first ‘Sin City’ serial in Dark Horse, after all…

Wouldn’t be a bad thing either way.

]]> by: Rivkah http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361523 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:47:08 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361523 <i>"So Miller just wants to make movies and not comics anymore. Wow, talk about you don’t shit where you eat."</i> Is there really anything wrong with that? As much as I enjoyed Frank Miller's "Sin City", he's shown an obvious finesse with motion pictures as well. (and I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who hated "300" but appreciated its cinematic beauty) Who's to say he hasn't found his own true passion? And the fact that it probably pays better . . . I'd say any artist when fronted with a number of projects with equally rewarding creative benefits will always go for the one that offers the most money. I can see where some of the bitterness comes from, however, in that often it feels that we, the comics people, are looked upon by Hollywood as no better than storyboard fodder for feature films. It's frustrating to work in a medium that's treated like a go-between. But Hollywood treats everything that way, including novels (some of the top advice I see to script writers is to find a novel they can adapt, which is BS to me IMHO). And yet movies present as unique a storytelling experience as comics and books do. The way I see it, Frank Miller has <i>always</i> had a very cinematic style that even he has said feels more like a movie (there's a good discussion between him and Will Eisner in "Eisner/Miller" from Dark Horse about this) and that the cross into movies for him seems very natural. And the idea of leaving comics? I almost can't blame him. When more a lot more publishers start treating creators with far more respect instead of as IP fodder for movies themselves . . . then maybe they'll be able to retain these talented and creative people for the long term. “So Miller just wants to make movies and not comics anymore. Wow, talk about you don’t shit where you eat.”

Is there really anything wrong with that? As much as I enjoyed Frank Miller’s “Sin City”, he’s shown an obvious finesse with motion pictures as well. (and I’m saying that from the perspective of someone who hated “300″ but appreciated its cinematic beauty) Who’s to say he hasn’t found his own true passion? And the fact that it probably pays better . . . I’d say any artist when fronted with a number of projects with equally rewarding creative benefits will always go for the one that offers the most money.

I can see where some of the bitterness comes from, however, in that often it feels that we, the comics people, are looked upon by Hollywood as no better than storyboard fodder for feature films. It’s frustrating to work in a medium that’s treated like a go-between. But Hollywood treats everything that way, including novels (some of the top advice I see to script writers is to find a novel they can adapt, which is BS to me IMHO).

And yet movies present as unique a storytelling experience as comics and books do. The way I see it, Frank Miller has always had a very cinematic style that even he has said feels more like a movie (there’s a good discussion between him and Will Eisner in “Eisner/Miller” from Dark Horse about this) and that the cross into movies for him seems very natural.

And the idea of leaving comics? I almost can’t blame him. When more a lot more publishers start treating creators with far more respect instead of as IP fodder for movies themselves . . . then maybe they’ll be able to retain these talented and creative people for the long term.

]]> by: Cary Coatney http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361455 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:24:56 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361455 So Miller just wants to make movies and not comics anymore. Wow, talk about you don't shit where you eat. ~ Coat So Miller just wants to make movies and not comics anymore. Wow, talk about you don’t shit where you eat.

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Coat

]]> by: Dave http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361443 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:17:14 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361443 Wow. Every time I think they've managed to hit bottom with this thing, they manage to dig deeper into that barrel. Just hideous. Wow. Every time I think they’ve managed to hit bottom with this thing, they manage to dig deeper into that barrel. Just hideous.

]]> by: austinspace http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361104 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:39:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2361104 Jackson's costume looks urinal-ready. Jackson’s costume looks urinal-ready.

]]> by: Rivkah http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2360726 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:26:06 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2360726 I like this poster. It seems to fall in line with the classic Will Eisner Spirit style much more so than the previous posters that seemed to be channeling the spirit of Sin City III. (though I'm drooling over the news SC II may be back on track. Hooray!) This poster is beautiful and appeals to me in a way the others have not, the part of me that loves Will Eisner's comics for being one way, the way I love Frank Miller's comics for being another way. I like this poster. It seems to fall in line with the classic Will Eisner Spirit style much more so than the previous posters that seemed to be channeling the spirit of Sin City III. (though I’m drooling over the news SC II may be back on track. Hooray!) This poster is beautiful and appeals to me in a way the others have not, the part of me that loves Will Eisner’s comics for being one way, the way I love Frank Miller’s comics for being another way.

]]> by: Ben May http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2360668 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:01:49 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2360668 Good Riddance. Good Riddance.

]]> by: Sphinx Magoo http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2359765 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:24:15 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/09/22/new-spirit-posters/#comment-2359765 Man, Sam Jackson's outfit is all kinds of ugly. I hope Frank Miller's comments are a mistranslation. I'd hate for him to get a big head over directing a movie, the movie tanks, and then he becomes untouchable in Hollywood. I'm sure Marvel would still want him back to sell books. DC was kinda left hanging with "Batman: Holy Terror" so I'm not sure what his reception would be there. Man, Sam Jackson’s outfit is all kinds of ugly.

I hope Frank Miller’s comments are a mistranslation. I’d hate for him to get a big head over directing a movie, the movie tanks, and then he becomes untouchable in Hollywood. I’m sure Marvel would still want him back to sell books. DC was kinda left hanging with “Batman: Holy Terror” so I’m not sure what his reception would be there.

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