…and here you can see how the next Superman movie could look (if tptb
at WB take right choices regarding the cast & crew of this movie):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4

I think your idea for a Wonder Woman series has some potential, but a) I doubt it would fly because of the movie which has a tentative release date of the 3rd of never and b) the CW would just royally mess it up.

For the life of me, I can’t understand why no one can get a Wonder Woman movie made, but since I’m not a Hollywood insider, I guess I’m just not smart enough to figure it out.

I can definitely understand how Nolan would have a lot of say not that I’m completely convinced that Nolan is directly involved in these decisions.

The math is depressingly straightforward. The regular Batman book has a monthly distribution of around 70 000. Sure, All Star has broken 100 000 but that’s with the star name power of Frank Miller and Jim Lee and even then, that’s not a vast difference from the regular book.

The Dark Knight alone has grossed nearly a billion dollars worldwide with an audience in the tens of millions. Add on Batman Begins and merchandising and who do you think would have more pull at Warner Bros. - DC Comics or the guy who has helmed a couple of movies that have made you billions of dollars and you’re trying to get him to sign on for a third film with cast intact?

I kind of doubt that Nolan has any kind of final authority on TV projects but he may have been consulted. There may have been hesitation about doing a live action show about the early days of Robin that directly conflicts with the movies where there’s no sign of Robin and likely won’t be which is fine by me because the last time Robin was in a movie, well, the less said the better.

Alexa,

Having Superman or Green Lantern or Flash show up in a Nolan Batman movie or any Batman movie for that matter, would be terrible for various reasons and not just because Nolan himself has said he never envisioned his Batman take as operating within the larger DCU. And Marvel still has to pull off a full crossover movie so it’s not like it’s been proven as viable for the movie-going masses just yet.

Or maybe something like this: http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20081007.html

I mean, I can’t believe this thing ever got greenlit to begin with.

There is no logical reason why Marvel should have been the first to come up with “Let’s start our own studio and set up a shared movie universe” when DC is owned by a movie studio. And now they just have too much pride to follow the Marvel model, when that’s what the fans really want, and instead are just going to try to ape their own limited success by making all of their superheroes as dark as Batman. Can’t wait for that Flash movie, you guys.

Plus the other tragedy is that aside from an older Dick Grayson series made more sense, so would dozens of other DC characters. Oh and I’ll second Starman as a good example of a story ripe for a good adaptation. Then again, I said the same of Birds of Prey and look how fubar they made that series.

So do Starman without doing Starman?

The only people you need to consult are Levitz and those at DC, the guys who REGULARLY work on the character not people who handle him once every 3 to 5 years.

I didn’t know that! Too bad it didn’t go ahead. I don’t think one medium really cuts into the other. As long as the product is good, it will find viewers.

There was at one time, a show opted for Starman by the same producers of Smallville when it first got up and running.

Now to Franklin Harris’ remark about Kara appearance on the show merely making it mediocre to reprehensible, - I thought her addition to the series’ last year was the reason why ratings spiked up a bit? ( and damn, if she isn’t a cutie!!) Didn’t they have Supergirl on last night’s episode?

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Coat

Superman Returns didn’t do as well as they would have liked because IT WAS REALLY BAD.

Nothing to do with Smallville being on TV, nothing to do with whether or not it was ‘dark’ enough. The Dark Knight rocked the party because it was right for the times, and in keeping with the source stories.

As for a TV show, I dream of the day when we will see a live-action Spider-Man series. It’s perfect. It’s set in the city, the characters are late high-school and college aged, it’s got the soap opera angle already built into it, and Spider-Man’s got such a deep pool of villains that they could easily write five seasons’ worth of shows right now. As a bonus, you’d get to see villains that wouldn’t make the cut for a movie, like Scorpion or Rhino or Vulture.

It takes place between the two most interesting parts of the Batman origin story, and adds nothing to either.

If they want to do a superhero show with a well-defined character arc of indeterminate length, they should just do Starman. Only without all the fanwank.

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It was hurt at the box office because it sucked. Period.

Of course, as soon as Kara showed up, Smallville started its rapid decline from merely mediocre to reprehensible, too.

Similarly, if Batman Begins had just tried to be a follow-on to the Tim Burton Batman (which I think was a pretty good movie, unlike the 80s Superman), it wouldn’t have been all that great, either. It’s not so much a matter of parallel product, as it is one of parallel /better/ product.