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		<title>by: Fred</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2631891</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Can anyone think of a team or even a single writer or artist who’s stuck around as promised without fill ins or swap outs?&quot;

DC only or any?  Outside of DC, Mark Bagley is solid, but it remains to be seen if he meets his DC requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can anyone think of a team or even a single writer or artist who’s stuck around as promised without fill ins or swap outs?&#8221;</p>
<p>DC only or any?  Outside of DC, Mark Bagley is solid, but it remains to be seen if he meets his DC requirements.
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		<title>by: Xenos</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2629682</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Josh Says: &quot;I really hope someone steps in soon and gets a new editor in there, before I drop anymore of my DC books.&quot;
Well considering the titles that are getting canned, maybe they might just drop the books for you.

Meanwhile, it's a very good point that fans are promised long running creative teams only to have them swap out left and right.   Can anyone think of a team or even a single writer or artist who's stuck around as promised without fill ins or swap outs?  And if there is a book that did, is it on the canceled list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Says: &#8220;I really hope someone steps in soon and gets a new editor in there, before I drop anymore of my DC books.&#8221;<br />
Well considering the titles that are getting canned, maybe they might just drop the books for you.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, it&#8217;s a very good point that fans are promised long running creative teams only to have them swap out left and right.   Can anyone think of a team or even a single writer or artist who&#8217;s stuck around as promised without fill ins or swap outs?  And if there is a book that did, is it on the canceled list?
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		<title>by: Tyson D.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2628376</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;For whatever it’s worth, this same “NYC bar crowd” also had a nugget about me to share with Rich which was 100% untrue.&quot; 

It's worth more now considering that James Robinson isn't leaving Superman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For whatever it’s worth, this same “NYC bar crowd” also had a nugget about me to share with Rich which was 100% untrue.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth more now considering that James Robinson isn&#8217;t leaving Superman.
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		<title>by: Shane</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2627210</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>for what it's worth, i'm enjoying mckeever's run on teen titans.</description>
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		<title>by: Ethan N.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626917</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626917</guid>
					<description>I should clarify that I really enjoy the Teen Titans right now, not Titans so much. That's a title that seems to be &quot;missing&quot; something and that's more evidence of a failed re-launch IMO.

ENZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify that I really enjoy the Teen Titans right now, not Titans so much. That&#8217;s a title that seems to be &#8220;missing&#8221; something and that&#8217;s more evidence of a failed re-launch IMO.</p>
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		<title>by: Ethan N.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626910</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626910</guid>
					<description>I really enjoy the Titans right now. One of the few DC books that I continually look forward to right now. So thanks for that Sean!!

But I do echo the sentiments of some of the posters here. Regardless of the truth (or not) of this gossip, there is something that just doen't &quot;feel&quot; like DC going on in the DCU. Marvel stories seem to flow better, the cohesiveness is more apparent, the stories tighter. Not sure why, but it does impact my enjoyment of the DCU when these elements are missing.

ENZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy the Titans right now. One of the few DC books that I continually look forward to right now. So thanks for that Sean!!</p>
<p>But I do echo the sentiments of some of the posters here. Regardless of the truth (or not) of this gossip, there is something that just doen&#8217;t &#8220;feel&#8221; like DC going on in the DCU. Marvel stories seem to flow better, the cohesiveness is more apparent, the stories tighter. Not sure why, but it does impact my enjoyment of the DCU when these elements are missing.</p>
<p>ENZ
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		<title>by: Fred</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626663</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626663</guid>
					<description>&quot;Historically, some of the most memorable comics runs have come from books with low sales and low expectations. &quot;

Sphinx, I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing with me. 

&quot;sean mckeever go back to writing one of the worst runs in titans history and stop kissing the ass of your boss &quot;

YEAH!  or better yet, go back to writing The Waiting Place!  That book was great!  **messing with McKeever.  I haven't read Titans or much else he's written other than The Waiting Place which was a great book and everyone should read it. **</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Historically, some of the most memorable comics runs have come from books with low sales and low expectations. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sphinx, I can&#8217;t tell if you&#8217;re agreeing with me or disagreeing with me. </p>
<p>&#8220;sean mckeever go back to writing one of the worst runs in titans history and stop kissing the ass of your boss &#8221;</p>
<p>YEAH!  or better yet, go back to writing The Waiting Place!  That book was great!  **messing with McKeever.  I haven&#8217;t read Titans or much else he&#8217;s written other than The Waiting Place which was a great book and everyone should read it. **
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		<title>by: chester</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2626271</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oh well, at least bat-mite is back.</description>
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		<title>by: jason</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625856</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625856</guid>
					<description>sorry sean mckeever.  loved your marvel work.  hate your titans.  found the wonder twins as dog food issue to be frankly repulsive.  but i read your post as defending dan didio when it was probably just calling out gossip for what it is.  i was blinded my 'dad didio must go' rage.  i used to cherish an entire line of comics that i now mostly loathe due to his stewarding of that ship.  i guess that is why people want to believe any gossiped about mistake he may or may not make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry sean mckeever.  loved your marvel work.  hate your titans.  found the wonder twins as dog food issue to be frankly repulsive.  but i read your post as defending dan didio when it was probably just calling out gossip for what it is.  i was blinded my &#8216;dad didio must go&#8217; rage.  i used to cherish an entire line of comics that i now mostly loathe due to his stewarding of that ship.  i guess that is why people want to believe any gossiped about mistake he may or may not make.
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		<title>by: AERose</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625589</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625589</guid>
					<description>&quot;If the new ending is insufficient to readers and stockholders, will the be a shake up? Or will they just rearrange the deck chairs as the band plays on?&quot;

Stockholders? Of what? Time Warner, a vast media conglomerate of which DC publishing is a small, hardly noticed facet? Someone with a vested interest in Time Warner is going to get angry about a small part of TW's business that remains profitable as an IP mine and a publisher for media tie ins regardless of who is in charge of editorial?

I'm all for holding comics publishers to a high standard, but I think it's fair to say that we're flying far below the radar here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the new ending is insufficient to readers and stockholders, will the be a shake up? Or will they just rearrange the deck chairs as the band plays on?&#8221;</p>
<p>Stockholders? Of what? Time Warner, a vast media conglomerate of which DC publishing is a small, hardly noticed facet? Someone with a vested interest in Time Warner is going to get angry about a small part of TW&#8217;s business that remains profitable as an IP mine and a publisher for media tie ins regardless of who is in charge of editorial?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for holding comics publishers to a high standard, but I think it&#8217;s fair to say that we&#8217;re flying far below the radar here.
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		<title>by: Sean McKeever</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625574</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625574</guid>
					<description>&quot;sean mckeever go back to writing one of the worst runs in titans history and stop kissing the ass of your boss&quot;

Wow, you sure put me in my place, Anonymous Person Without Anything to Add to the Discussion! One more terrible comic coming your way, posthaste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sean mckeever go back to writing one of the worst runs in titans history and stop kissing the ass of your boss&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, you sure put me in my place, Anonymous Person Without Anything to Add to the Discussion! One more terrible comic coming your way, posthaste!
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		<title>by: rev'D</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625571</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625571</guid>
					<description>&quot;Battle for the Cowl will be written and drawn by Tony Daniel, which we’re very excited about. This is the first time Tony’s written in a while, and he’s just champing at the bit to be able to do this, and we’re excited that he’s on the series. &quot;

As I read it, Didio's not saying Daniel's taking over Batman, simply that Daniel's wrangling the overarching thingawhatsit before we get back to actual Morrison.  Which I translate as another two-to-three month blip on the far side of Gaiman's dealy that's -also- not Morrison.  Call it Morrison's much-needed vacation.  I don't imagine any of it will affect his overall plan for Batman.  There was a similar interruption very early on, the Ostrander &amp;#38; Mandrake blip in '06, followed by the tepid &amp;#38; pointless 'Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul'--  which many fondly remember as Daniels' first appearance on art chores.

(sigh)

Because Morrison's Batman is the only DC title I'm reading now I want to &lt;i&gt;defend&lt;/i&gt; Daniels.  But I can't.  Every time I find something to appreciate about his work I feel as though I'm denying reality.  I've even tried to blame it on the inker, but...  I can't unsee the similarity between what he's drawing now and his debut on 'X-Force' in '95.  The compositions &amp;#38; linework are just as awkward &amp;#38; forced.  Not to be unkind, but his art style's developmentally stunted.

And this is the guy drawing the only DC title I'm reading.  

A FLAGSHIP title.  

&lt;i&gt;Neal Adams'&lt;/i&gt; old turf.  

Sometimes I re-imagine parts of 'R.I.P.' as though they were drawn by Michael Lark and weep for what could have been.

...

Anyway, I sincerely doubt Didio's going to ruin his already tenuous public partnership with Morrison by handing the reins over to Daniel.  I hope to god not.  My pull box is emaciated as it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Battle for the Cowl will be written and drawn by Tony Daniel, which we’re very excited about. This is the first time Tony’s written in a while, and he’s just champing at the bit to be able to do this, and we’re excited that he’s on the series. &#8221;</p>
<p>As I read it, Didio&#8217;s not saying Daniel&#8217;s taking over Batman, simply that Daniel&#8217;s wrangling the overarching thingawhatsit before we get back to actual Morrison.  Which I translate as another two-to-three month blip on the far side of Gaiman&#8217;s dealy that&#8217;s -also- not Morrison.  Call it Morrison&#8217;s much-needed vacation.  I don&#8217;t imagine any of it will affect his overall plan for Batman.  There was a similar interruption very early on, the Ostrander &amp; Mandrake blip in &#8216;06, followed by the tepid &amp; pointless &#8216;Resurrection of Ra&#8217;s al Ghul&#8217;&#8211;  which many fondly remember as Daniels&#8217; first appearance on art chores.</p>
<p>(sigh)</p>
<p>Because Morrison&#8217;s Batman is the only DC title I&#8217;m reading now I want to <i>defend</i> Daniels.  But I can&#8217;t.  Every time I find something to appreciate about his work I feel as though I&#8217;m denying reality.  I&#8217;ve even tried to blame it on the inker, but&#8230;  I can&#8217;t unsee the similarity between what he&#8217;s drawing now and his debut on &#8216;X-Force&#8217; in &#8216;95.  The compositions &amp; linework are just as awkward &amp; forced.  Not to be unkind, but his art style&#8217;s developmentally stunted.</p>
<p>And this is the guy drawing the only DC title I&#8217;m reading.  </p>
<p>A FLAGSHIP title.  </p>
<p><i>Neal Adams&#8217;</i> old turf.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I re-imagine parts of &#8216;R.I.P.&#8217; as though they were drawn by Michael Lark and weep for what could have been.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I sincerely doubt Didio&#8217;s going to ruin his already tenuous public partnership with Morrison by handing the reins over to Daniel.  I hope to god not.  My pull box is emaciated as it is&#8230;
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		<title>by: Tyson D.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625394</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625394</guid>
					<description>When facts and gossip get mixed within blogs and across blogs, I just think it gets a little blurry sometimes, that's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When facts and gossip get mixed within blogs and across blogs, I just think it gets a little blurry sometimes, that&#8217;s all.
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		<title>by: Marc-Oliver Frisch</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625090</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2625090</guid>
					<description>&quot;Did anybody bother to follow up and try to verify those claims? Maybe they’re accurate and maybe they’re not but even Fox News has better journalistic standards than that. &quot;

Well, no, they don't.

And besides, Rich is very clear about the fact that he's reporting gossip. You can argue about the ethics of that until the cows come home, but you certainly can't claim that he's trying to fool anyone into regarding what the column says as factual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did anybody bother to follow up and try to verify those claims? Maybe they’re accurate and maybe they’re not but even Fox News has better journalistic standards than that. &#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no, they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And besides, Rich is very clear about the fact that he&#8217;s reporting gossip. You can argue about the ethics of that until the cows come home, but you certainly can&#8217;t claim that he&#8217;s trying to fool anyone into regarding what the column says as factual.
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		<title>by: Tyson D.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2624875</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2624875</guid>
					<description>How exactly is it kissing your boss's ass to point out that info relayed from bars to the web may not be 100% reliable and accurate?

Did anybody bother to follow up and try to verify those claims? Maybe they're accurate and maybe they're not but even Fox News has better journalistic standards than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exactly is it kissing your boss&#8217;s ass to point out that info relayed from bars to the web may not be 100% reliable and accurate?</p>
<p>Did anybody bother to follow up and try to verify those claims? Maybe they&#8217;re accurate and maybe they&#8217;re not but even Fox News has better journalistic standards than that.
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		<title>by: jason</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2624570</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sean mckeever go back to writing one of the worst runs in titans history and stop kissing the ass of your boss</description>
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		<title>by: brett</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2624451</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Davidson...

As said above, I do stand corrected. The point is, Action was mainly a book without Superman spotlighting other characters instead and while some might blame the weekly format, it still failed, many believe because the main draw, Superman was not prominantly featured. 

And given Dan's 7 yr track record, its highly unlikely he'll be able to make the Milestone or Archie characters interesting or successful either. Even if he hires great creators, chances are, they will fly the coup like all the others if they don't agree with Dan's direction.

Bottom line about his direction? Dan seems to think his brain is like a Great House of Ideas but given his record, that's one house that should be scheduled for demolition, or especially in this time, due to abysmal sales, foreclosure.</description>
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<p>As said above, I do stand corrected. The point is, Action was mainly a book without Superman spotlighting other characters instead and while some might blame the weekly format, it still failed, many believe because the main draw, Superman was not prominantly featured. </p>
<p>And given Dan&#8217;s 7 yr track record, its highly unlikely he&#8217;ll be able to make the Milestone or Archie characters interesting or successful either. Even if he hires great creators, chances are, they will fly the coup like all the others if they don&#8217;t agree with Dan&#8217;s direction.</p>
<p>Bottom line about his direction? Dan seems to think his brain is like a Great House of Ideas but given his record, that&#8217;s one house that should be scheduled for demolition, or especially in this time, due to abysmal sales, foreclosure.
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		<title>by: brett</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2624413</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hibbs: I stand corrected. I was buying Action during its weekly tenure but didn't even remember the Superman 2-pg'ers. I should have said it's the first time Superman wasn't the 'main' feature. Still, I love your columns, they're quite insightful and enjoyable. 

Gene: I beg to differ. Not saying Jim was perfect (the 1st JLAvengers) and I wasn't even a huge fan of Marvel during Jim's tenure, I was more of a DC guy at that point in time but again, say what you will, during Jim's tenure he gave readers...

- the Classic Claremont / Byrne X-Men (which some may have believed he clucked up killing Phoenix but then, with that, he made that story the infamous tale it is today and we wouldn't have had the Cockrum, Paul Smith, John Romita Jr art that followed when Byrne left to do...)

- the Classic Byrne FF
- Walt Simonson's Thor
- Frank Miller's Daredevil
- George Perez Avengers

And again, among many, his time at Marvel is considered classic, well revered amongst fans and sold pretty darn good. Which the same can't be said for Didio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hibbs: I stand corrected. I was buying Action during its weekly tenure but didn&#8217;t even remember the Superman 2-pg&#8217;ers. I should have said it&#8217;s the first time Superman wasn&#8217;t the &#8216;main&#8217; feature. Still, I love your columns, they&#8217;re quite insightful and enjoyable. </p>
<p>Gene: I beg to differ. Not saying Jim was perfect (the 1st JLAvengers) and I wasn&#8217;t even a huge fan of Marvel during Jim&#8217;s tenure, I was more of a DC guy at that point in time but again, say what you will, during Jim&#8217;s tenure he gave readers&#8230;</p>
<p>- the Classic Claremont / Byrne X-Men (which some may have believed he clucked up killing Phoenix but then, with that, he made that story the infamous tale it is today and we wouldn&#8217;t have had the Cockrum, Paul Smith, John Romita Jr art that followed when Byrne left to do&#8230;)</p>
<p>- the Classic Byrne FF<br />
- Walt Simonson&#8217;s Thor<br />
- Frank Miller&#8217;s Daredevil<br />
- George Perez Avengers</p>
<p>And again, among many, his time at Marvel is considered classic, well revered amongst fans and sold pretty darn good. Which the same can&#8217;t be said for Didio.
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		<title>by: Sean McKeever</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623903</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For whatever it's worth, this same &quot;NYC bar crowd&quot; also had a nugget about me to share with Rich which was 100% untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For whatever it&#8217;s worth, this same &#8220;NYC bar crowd&#8221; also had a nugget about me to share with Rich which was 100% untrue.
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623883</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't forget about the guy they got to pose as Didio--

Funky Flashman, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget about the guy they got to pose as Didio&#8211;</p>
<p>Funky Flashman, of course!
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		<title>by: Jim Kingman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623816</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Dan DiDio&quot; is the culmination of a diabolical plan concocted by the Secret Society of Super-Villains in the late 1970s (circa the cancellation of their own mag and therefore never published) to inject themselves (as &quot;DiDio&quot;) through time into our reality during Grant Morrison's Animal Man hey-day, kill all the renowned editors, replace them with misguided fanboys, and subject the fictional post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour, post-Infinite Crisis DC Universe to lots of mayhem and destruction. It was the ultimate &quot;cross-over,&quot; and it worked. The villains don't care about sales, only chaos. And they won.

Only Larry Lance, the last of the dead DC characters yet to return, can save us now.

Now...with that REVEAL...doesn't the Dan DiDio DC Universe suddenly make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dan DiDio&#8221; is the culmination of a diabolical plan concocted by the Secret Society of Super-Villains in the late 1970s (circa the cancellation of their own mag and therefore never published) to inject themselves (as &#8220;DiDio&#8221;) through time into our reality during Grant Morrison&#8217;s Animal Man hey-day, kill all the renowned editors, replace them with misguided fanboys, and subject the fictional post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour, post-Infinite Crisis DC Universe to lots of mayhem and destruction. It was the ultimate &#8220;cross-over,&#8221; and it worked. The villains don&#8217;t care about sales, only chaos. And they won.</p>
<p>Only Larry Lance, the last of the dead DC characters yet to return, can save us now.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;with that REVEAL&#8230;doesn&#8217;t the Dan DiDio DC Universe suddenly make sense?
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		<title>by: Marc-Oliver Frisch</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623669</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;It should be pointed out that Tony Daniel is not an “unknown quantity,” as Marc Oliver suggests. The guy has written numerous creator-owned comics dating back to 1997’s “The Tenth.”&quot;

I know - see an earlier post of mine from last week.

But the last comic written by Daniel was published in 2005, he's only written his own creations to date, has never garnered any critical acclaim for his writing to speak of, and the total number of comic books he's written seems to be below 50 in a span of more than ten years.

You can argue whether that makes him an &quot;unknown quantity,&quot; but bearing all this in mind, in the very least, he's a very odd choice DC for a major Batman story - particularly in the middle of Morrison's stuff, who was meant to return to the book after Gaiman's two-parter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It should be pointed out that Tony Daniel is not an “unknown quantity,” as Marc Oliver suggests. The guy has written numerous creator-owned comics dating back to 1997’s “The Tenth.”&#8221;</p>
<p>I know - see an earlier post of mine from last week.</p>
<p>But the last comic written by Daniel was published in 2005, he&#8217;s only written his own creations to date, has never garnered any critical acclaim for his writing to speak of, and the total number of comic books he&#8217;s written seems to be below 50 in a span of more than ten years.</p>
<p>You can argue whether that makes him an &#8220;unknown quantity,&#8221; but bearing all this in mind, in the very least, he&#8217;s a very odd choice DC for a major Batman story - particularly in the middle of Morrison&#8217;s stuff, who was meant to return to the book after Gaiman&#8217;s two-parter.
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		<title>by: Does DC Stand for &#8220;DiDio is a Crackhead&#8221;? &#171; Meanwhile&#8230;Comics!</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623424</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] However, news today tops all of these stories, as it seems that DiDio has been fighting with two of his hottest writers. Apparently, DiDio and James Robinson, acclaimed writer of Starman and The Golden Age who just recently returned to comics to write some Superman stories, had an argument with DiDio, and quit the books, and apparently the entire DCU. Even more spectacular, DiDio apparently argued with Grant Morrison about the ending to Final Crisis, demanding rewrites, leading Morrison to say he&amp;#8217;ll not work with DC again in the future either. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] However, news today tops all of these stories, as it seems that DiDio has been fighting with two of his hottest writers. Apparently, DiDio and James Robinson, acclaimed writer of Starman and The Golden Age who just recently returned to comics to write some Superman stories, had an argument with DiDio, and quit the books, and apparently the entire DCU. Even more spectacular, DiDio apparently argued with Grant Morrison about the ending to Final Crisis, demanding rewrites, leading Morrison to say he&#8217;ll not work with DC again in the future either. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623303</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good rant, Brett!  The only comparisons I had in mind were the Shooter style of micro-management and his launching of &quot;Secret Wars,&quot; a &quot;mega-event&quot; at least as hollow as Infinite Crisis, but I'll grant that he occasionally showed some stones, though in some cases he was no better a custodian of the Marvel characters than Didio seems to be of the DC heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good rant, Brett!  The only comparisons I had in mind were the Shooter style of micro-management and his launching of &#8220;Secret Wars,&#8221; a &#8220;mega-event&#8221; at least as hollow as Infinite Crisis, but I&#8217;ll grant that he occasionally showed some stones, though in some cases he was no better a custodian of the Marvel characters than Didio seems to be of the DC heroes.
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		<title>by: Richard Pachter</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623209</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Morrison has said that he'll be writing Batman after the RIP  aftermath crap. Has that changed?

Also, is Robinson really off Superman?

(Anyone who would like to commit some actual journalism with respect to these questions and others raised by that yentah Johnston is enthusiastically encouraged to do so.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morrison has said that he&#8217;ll be writing Batman after the RIP  aftermath crap. Has that changed?</p>
<p>Also, is Robinson really off Superman?</p>
<p>(Anyone who would like to commit some actual journalism with respect to these questions and others raised by that yentah Johnston is enthusiastically encouraged to do so.)
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		<title>by: Jason Green</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623162</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It should be pointed out that Tony Daniel is not an &quot;unknown quantity,&quot; as Marc Oliver suggests. The guy has written numerous creator-owned comics dating back to 1997's &quot;The Tenth.&quot; I actually enjoyed his writing quite a bit (particularly on the Dark Horse series &quot;Silke&quot;) and was kind of disappointed when he went back to doing art-only work-for-hire jobs. He's no Morrison, of course, but he's hardly untested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be pointed out that Tony Daniel is not an &#8220;unknown quantity,&#8221; as Marc Oliver suggests. The guy has written numerous creator-owned comics dating back to 1997&#8217;s &#8220;The Tenth.&#8221; I actually enjoyed his writing quite a bit (particularly on the Dark Horse series &#8220;Silke&#8221;) and was kind of disappointed when he went back to doing art-only work-for-hire jobs. He&#8217;s no Morrison, of course, but he&#8217;s hardly untested.
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		<title>by: Sphinx Magoo</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2623042</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Fred said: &quot;The Brave and the Bold is the PERFECT title for JMS to write. &quot;

Historically, some of the most memorable comics runs have come from books with low sales and low expectations. Some examples include:
- Jack Kirby's Jimmy Olsen
- Neal Adams' X-Men
- Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams on Batman and on Green Lantern/Green Arrow
- Dave Cockrum's Legion of Super-Heroes
- Frank Miller's Daredevil
- Peter David's Hulk

Right now, DC might be a good place to start creating some bang-up stories. If they could finally get away from the multi-issue crossover epics which totally tank any chance for a decent storyline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred said: &#8220;The Brave and the Bold is the PERFECT title for JMS to write. &#8221;</p>
<p>Historically, some of the most memorable comics runs have come from books with low sales and low expectations. Some examples include:<br />
- Jack Kirby&#8217;s Jimmy Olsen<br />
- Neal Adams&#8217; X-Men<br />
- Denny O&#8217;Neil and Neal Adams on Batman and on Green Lantern/Green Arrow<br />
- Dave Cockrum&#8217;s Legion of Super-Heroes<br />
- Frank Miller&#8217;s Daredevil<br />
- Peter David&#8217;s Hulk</p>
<p>Right now, DC might be a good place to start creating some bang-up stories. If they could finally get away from the multi-issue crossover epics which totally tank any chance for a decent storyline.
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		<title>by: Mark</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2622958</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Once Morrison is done with DC, so am I.&quot;

Ditto.

Or should I say Didio.

It is, I think, mainly due to his rather ineffectual overseering of the DC Universe proper (ignoring outside gems like Fables or Ex Machina) that I have dropped title after title over the last several years, only concentrating now on whatever Morrison has been involved in. Should Morrison find himself displeased with having his creativity stifled &amp;#38; altered by Didio's less than mediocre vision of the future, I see little reason to drop serious overinflated coin on anything that comes from the DCU should Morrison decide to walk.

It's a real shame that someday in the future, after Didio is gone, that DC will have to resort to yet ANOTHER ret-con of its universe &amp;#38; major characters to undo the damage being done here. You know it's coming. Maybe they'll name it The Son of the Return of the Infinite Final Crisis; No Shit, This Time It's For Reals - Honest!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once Morrison is done with DC, so am I.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto.</p>
<p>Or should I say Didio.</p>
<p>It is, I think, mainly due to his rather ineffectual overseering of the DC Universe proper (ignoring outside gems like Fables or Ex Machina) that I have dropped title after title over the last several years, only concentrating now on whatever Morrison has been involved in. Should Morrison find himself displeased with having his creativity stifled &amp; altered by Didio&#8217;s less than mediocre vision of the future, I see little reason to drop serious overinflated coin on anything that comes from the DCU should Morrison decide to walk.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real shame that someday in the future, after Didio is gone, that DC will have to resort to yet ANOTHER ret-con of its universe &amp; major characters to undo the damage being done here. You know it&#8217;s coming. Maybe they&#8217;ll name it The Son of the Return of the Infinite Final Crisis; No Shit, This Time It&#8217;s For Reals - Honest!!
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2622910</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;...taking Grant Morrison and Paul Dini off Batman...&quot;

Morrison is always late with all his books.
Dini's Detective isn't selling well, although the stories are pretty good.

&quot;...letting James Robinson leave Superman...&quot;

He wasn't going to stay very long anyway. He is Hollywood these days, not comic books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;taking Grant Morrison and Paul Dini off Batman&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Morrison is always late with all his books.<br />
Dini&#8217;s Detective isn&#8217;t selling well, although the stories are pretty good.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;letting James Robinson leave Superman&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t going to stay very long anyway. He is Hollywood these days, not comic books.
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		<title>by: Brian Davison</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/11/18/dc-doins/#comment-2622786</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Brett says:

&quot;Batman gone and no more Superman in Action? Dan claims it will be the first time in the history of Action that this is done. Well, not so Dan because Action was Superman-less when it was a weekly beginning in #601 and that was a failure as well.&quot;

No, ACTION was not Superman-less during the period it was ACTION COMICS WEEKLY.  Superman had a 2-page feature in the center of the book, drawn by none other than the legendary Curt Swan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Batman gone and no more Superman in Action? Dan claims it will be the first time in the history of Action that this is done. Well, not so Dan because Action was Superman-less when it was a weekly beginning in #601 and that was a failure as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, ACTION was not Superman-less during the period it was ACTION COMICS WEEKLY.  Superman had a 2-page feature in the center of the book, drawn by none other than the legendary Curt Swan.
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