Comments on: Batman RIP reax are the new black http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:38:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: gene phillips http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2696851 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:00:54 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2696851 "Darn it, Norvell! Why can't you change the Spider's thrilling but nonsensical adventures into something more upscale, like something from this Nathanael West guy? We could rename the magazine DAY OF THE SPIDER!" “Darn it, Norvell! Why can’t you change the Spider’s thrilling but nonsensical adventures into something more upscale, like something from this Nathanael West guy? We could rename the magazine DAY OF THE SPIDER!”

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2695416 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:42:40 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2695416 Also, it's amazing how many people are making their nut bashing DC Comics these days. Beware karma! Also, it’s amazing how many people are making their nut bashing DC Comics these days. Beware karma!

]]> by: Alan Coil http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2695384 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:31:37 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2695384 RIP was too involved...it would have been better if Batman had just fought Joker, and we could have voted online whether Batman should live or die in an explosion at the end of the story. That way Joker could have killed bith Batman and Robin. Hell, I could write that story. RIP was too involved…it would have been better if Batman had just fought Joker, and we could have voted online whether Batman should live or die in an explosion at the end of the story. That way Joker could have killed bith Batman and Robin.

Hell, I could write that story.

]]> by: Jim http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694491 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:22:04 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694491 Mike Marts is being a tad bit disingenuous. It’s not that readers were left hanging at the end of RIP, it’s that they genuinely, fundamentally don’t understand what happened in the story. It’s not, “Huh? Is this the end?”, it’s “Huh? Can someone please explain to me, in layman’s terms, what I just read?” ---------------- Not everyone. The majority of folks were underwhelmed b/c they didn't get the HUGE surprise that DC and Grant said they were going to give. Most message boards seem to be able to get the comic. They're just going "that's it?" Mike Marts is being a tad bit disingenuous. It’s not that readers were left hanging at the end of RIP, it’s that they genuinely, fundamentally don’t understand what happened in the story. It’s not, “Huh? Is this the end?”, it’s “Huh? Can someone please explain to me, in layman’s terms, what I just read?”
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Not everyone. The majority of folks were underwhelmed b/c they didn’t get the HUGE surprise that DC and Grant said they were going to give.

Most message boards seem to be able to get the comic. They’re just going “that’s it?”

]]> by: Charles Knight http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694472 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:13:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694472 What I can't abide about this is the fact that Batman's "death" doesn't occur in Batman but in Final Crisis - yes it's serial fiction and all that entails but it seems to me you break the psychological contract with the reader if the pay-off to a series of stories is somewhere else. What I can’t abide about this is the fact that Batman’s “death” doesn’t occur in Batman but in Final Crisis - yes it’s serial fiction and all that entails but it seems to me you break the psychological contract with the reader if the pay-off to a series of stories is somewhere else.

]]> by: PencilSharp http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694439 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:58:12 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694439 Batman RIP, from beginning to end, was Grant Morrison's baby, and boy, can you tell it. Grant is a talented writer, no doubt, and several of his works are true credits to the industry. BUT (and note that this is a big ol' but) he may be starting to believe his press, as in "I'm Grant Morrison, and I can do no wrong." Of course, this is not the first big train wreck in the industry (I'm looking at you, Spider-Man, repeatedly), and I feel sorta kinda bad for Grant, as expectations on a work like this will most always exceed the best results. Still, I'll be off the bat-books for a while, until Hurricane DiDio blows over. And I don't think I'll be alone... Batman RIP, from beginning to end, was Grant Morrison’s baby, and boy, can you tell it. Grant is a talented writer, no doubt, and several of his works are true credits to the industry. BUT (and note that this is a big ol’ but) he may be starting to believe his press, as in “I’m Grant Morrison, and I can do no wrong.”
Of course, this is not the first big train wreck in the industry (I’m looking at you, Spider-Man, repeatedly), and I feel sorta kinda bad for Grant, as expectations on a work like this will most always exceed the best results. Still, I’ll be off the bat-books for a while, until Hurricane DiDio blows over.
And I don’t think I’ll be alone…

]]> by: PencilSharp http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694433 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:57:50 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2694433 Batman RIP, from beginning to end, was Grant Morrison's baby from beginning to end, and boy, can you tell it. Grant is a talented writer, no doubt, and several of his works are true credits to the industry. BUT (and note that this is a big ol' but) he may be starting to believe his press, as in "I'm Grant Morrison, and I can do no wrong." Of course, this is not the first big train wreck in the industry (I'm looking at you, Spider-Man, repeatedly), and I feel sorta kinda bad for Grant, as expectations on a work like this will most always exceed the best results. Still, I'll be off the bat-books for a while, until Hurricane DiDio blows over. And I don't think I'll be alone... Batman RIP, from beginning to end, was Grant Morrison’s baby from beginning to end, and boy, can you tell it. Grant is a talented writer, no doubt, and several of his works are true credits to the industry. BUT (and note that this is a big ol’ but) he may be starting to believe his press, as in “I’m Grant Morrison, and I can do no wrong.”
Of course, this is not the first big train wreck in the industry (I’m looking at you, Spider-Man, repeatedly), and I feel sorta kinda bad for Grant, as expectations on a work like this will most always exceed the best results. Still, I’ll be off the bat-books for a while, until Hurricane DiDio blows over.
And I don’t think I’ll be alone…

]]> by: Glenn Simpson http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693924 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:42:17 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693924 I don't know if the storyline needed to be more LOST, but I certainly couldn't have been. I don’t know if the storyline needed to be more LOST, but I certainly couldn’t have been.

]]> by: Sean B http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693911 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:33:56 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693911 I think it should have been more "My Mother the Car", with a generous topping of "Mannix" and a dash of "Solid Gold." I think it should have been more “My Mother the Car”, with a generous topping of “Mannix” and a dash of “Solid Gold.”

]]> by: SonOfBaldwin http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693910 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:30:38 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693910 Mike Marts is being a tad bit disingenuous. It's not that readers were left hanging at the end of RIP, it's that they genuinely, fundamentally don't understand what happened in the story. It's not, "Huh? Is this the end?", it's "Huh? Can someone please explain to me, in layman's terms, what I just read?" Mike Marts is being a tad bit disingenuous. It’s not that readers were left hanging at the end of RIP, it’s that they genuinely, fundamentally don’t understand what happened in the story. It’s not, “Huh? Is this the end?”, it’s “Huh? Can someone please explain to me, in layman’s terms, what I just read?”

]]> by: Brian Davison http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693764 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:47:24 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693764 If we're doing TV show comparisons to comics, BATMAN R.I.P. needed to be more like LOST and less like HEROES. If we’re doing TV show comparisons to comics, BATMAN R.I.P. needed to be more like LOST and less like HEROES.

]]> by: Kate Willaert http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693605 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:50:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693605 Since TV shows became more like episodic movies, I suppose. Since TV shows became more like episodic movies, I suppose.

]]> by: gene phillips http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693496 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:05:36 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/12/04/batman-rip-reax-are-the-new-black/#comment-2693496 Never mind BATMAN RIP being the new black; when did we go from "comics should be more like movies" to "comics should be more like TV shows?" Never mind BATMAN RIP being the new black; when did we go from “comics should be more like movies” to “comics should be more like TV shows?”

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