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	<title>Comments on: Hoteloween &#8216;09: COOONNNNNNNNNN!</title>
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		<title>by: THE BEAT &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Room at the inn after all?</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3446057</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3446057</guid>
					<description>[...] Yesterday was the day that hotels started charging deposits for reservations booked via Travel Planners for the San Diego Comic-Con. Accordingly, many people started ditching their reservations. And a quick check revealed hotels rooms for the coveted Wed-Sun period available at MANY close and/or even REASONABLE hotels, from the Hyatt to the Doubletree to the Solamar to the &amp;#8220;wonderful rooms&amp;#8221; at the W. Obviously, a lot of San Diego Dreamin&amp;#8217;® just wasn&amp;#8217;t going to happen this time &amp;#8212; their eyes were bigger than their wallet, so to speak. We know that rooms always free up, but this was, based on our regular, anecdotal checking, a much wider selection than usual&amp;#8230;a sign that maybe things are cooled down a bit due to the economy or other matters. And also proof that if you don&amp;#8217;t get the perfect room on Hoteloween&amp;#8230;there may be a second chance to get it right. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Yesterday was the day that hotels started charging deposits for reservations booked via Travel Planners for the San Diego Comic-Con. Accordingly, many people started ditching their reservations. And a quick check revealed hotels rooms for the coveted Wed-Sun period available at MANY close and/or even REASONABLE hotels, from the Hyatt to the Doubletree to the Solamar to the &#8220;wonderful rooms&#8221; at the W. Obviously, a lot of San Diego Dreamin&#8217;® just wasn&#8217;t going to happen this time &#8212; their eyes were bigger than their wallet, so to speak. We know that rooms always free up, but this was, based on our regular, anecdotal checking, a much wider selection than usual&#8230;a sign that maybe things are cooled down a bit due to the economy or other matters. And also proof that if you don&#8217;t get the perfect room on Hoteloween&#8230;there may be a second chance to get it right. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Andre Smith</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3178289</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Ian L.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3076147</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3076147</guid>
					<description>After dealing with the spinning ball of doom for a half hour, I decided to try my luck at calling the phone number instead.  Busy signals be damned, I got through by about 12:40 EST or so.  Gave them my hotel choices, and wound up with my first choice: the Gaslamp Westin!  Right across from the Ralph's, walking distance from the con, $189 a night.  Had I not decided to call instead, I would have dealt with spinning ball of doom for another hour I'm sure.  Hooray for talking to real human beings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After dealing with the spinning ball of doom for a half hour, I decided to try my luck at calling the phone number instead.  Busy signals be damned, I got through by about 12:40 EST or so.  Gave them my hotel choices, and wound up with my first choice: the Gaslamp Westin!  Right across from the Ralph&#8217;s, walking distance from the con, $189 a night.  Had I not decided to call instead, I would have dealt with spinning ball of doom for another hour I&#8217;m sure.  Hooray for talking to real human beings!
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3068941</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3068941</guid>
					<description>I like San Diego more than any other city in the US to which I've gone to cons, by a wide margin. That's about a dozen. I don't think there's anything nefarious going on with the hotel rooms. I think they're grinding as much money as they can out of a audience that wants a very specific subset (walking distance) of the county's hotel rooms, but that's the case in Louisville during Derby weekend, too. When the balance tips against the show, I'll stop going. I don't have a right to a specific con experience that I expect San Diego to provide.

The city may undercount the money spent, but whether they do or not is somewhat debatable, too -- comics fans are notoriously reluctant to spend money outside of the show and hotel rooms are either not used or shared and there's a limit to them. And so on. Mostly I'm not really sure why that's important. Do the other conventions get breaks based on their per capita spending that CCI doesn't? Do they open up a special reservations hotline to Oceannaire when the bio/pharma convention hits town? I'm not sure what the return is supposed to be.

I guess you could say that the reputation of the con bringing far less to the city than it really brings money-wise fuels a general contempt from the locals, but 15 years of witnessing the most horrible, fundamentally anti-social behavior from comics fans while in San Diego makes me think that if you're engaged at all with the con you or a friend probably has a personal anecdote that trumps any vague feeling you might have received from trickle-down off of convention bureau statistics. On the whole I've had enormously positive experiences with locals while functioning in a normal manner, and (surprise!) less positive experiences when I was acting like a jackass. No one in my wider circle of friends every got it from a local when they weren't, say, urinating outside a hotel or leaving their tip in the water glass. And since I'm no longer 12, I don't care what the hotel clerk says to the other one about our Sapphire and Steel costumes when we leave the lobby.

So for me: Like the con, like the city!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like San Diego more than any other city in the US to which I&#8217;ve gone to cons, by a wide margin. That&#8217;s about a dozen. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything nefarious going on with the hotel rooms. I think they&#8217;re grinding as much money as they can out of a audience that wants a very specific subset (walking distance) of the county&#8217;s hotel rooms, but that&#8217;s the case in Louisville during Derby weekend, too. When the balance tips against the show, I&#8217;ll stop going. I don&#8217;t have a right to a specific con experience that I expect San Diego to provide.</p>
<p>The city may undercount the money spent, but whether they do or not is somewhat debatable, too &#8212; comics fans are notoriously reluctant to spend money outside of the show and hotel rooms are either not used or shared and there&#8217;s a limit to them. And so on. Mostly I&#8217;m not really sure why that&#8217;s important. Do the other conventions get breaks based on their per capita spending that CCI doesn&#8217;t? Do they open up a special reservations hotline to Oceannaire when the bio/pharma convention hits town? I&#8217;m not sure what the return is supposed to be.</p>
<p>I guess you could say that the reputation of the con bringing far less to the city than it really brings money-wise fuels a general contempt from the locals, but 15 years of witnessing the most horrible, fundamentally anti-social behavior from comics fans while in San Diego makes me think that if you&#8217;re engaged at all with the con you or a friend probably has a personal anecdote that trumps any vague feeling you might have received from trickle-down off of convention bureau statistics. On the whole I&#8217;ve had enormously positive experiences with locals while functioning in a normal manner, and (surprise!) less positive experiences when I was acting like a jackass. No one in my wider circle of friends every got it from a local when they weren&#8217;t, say, urinating outside a hotel or leaving their tip in the water glass. And since I&#8217;m no longer 12, I don&#8217;t care what the hotel clerk says to the other one about our Sapphire and Steel costumes when we leave the lobby.</p>
<p>So for me: Like the con, like the city!
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		<title>by: Daft Musings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hoteloween and the Softening Economy</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3067440</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3067440</guid>
					<description>[...] I, on the other hand, am a mere mortal. After that year, I organized a calling ring in which the entire staff pounded the system trying to get the rooms we needed, and Loretta became a hero by getting us in a room on the bus line. Unfortunately, if there had been the slightest mistake in booking, we wouldn&amp;#8217;t have been able to get a hotel room anywhere within San Diego, because within an hour the entire city was booked out. By this time, the booking process had been dubbed &amp;#8220;Hoteloween&amp;#8221; by blogger Heidi Macdonald, and it was marked by triage and moaning by all those who had tried and failed to book any room, even at $400 a night. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I, on the other hand, am a mere mortal. After that year, I organized a calling ring in which the entire staff pounded the system trying to get the rooms we needed, and Loretta became a hero by getting us in a room on the bus line. Unfortunately, if there had been the slightest mistake in booking, we wouldn&#8217;t have been able to get a hotel room anywhere within San Diego, because within an hour the entire city was booked out. By this time, the booking process had been dubbed &#8220;Hoteloween&#8221; by blogger Heidi Macdonald, and it was marked by triage and moaning by all those who had tried and failed to book any room, even at $400 a night. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Todd Allen</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3067431</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3067431</guid>
					<description>It really does devolve into a &quot;love the show, hate the city&quot; thing, doesn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really does devolve into a &#8220;love the show, hate the city&#8221; thing, doesn&#8217;t it?
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		<title>by: Scott</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3066373</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thankfully I stopped going to this show and don't have to deal with this crap anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully I stopped going to this show and don&#8217;t have to deal with this crap anymore.
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3062282</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3062282</guid>
					<description>Do I get a room at the Omni if I offer up bags of hand-washed baby vegetables?</description>
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		<title>by: James</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061820</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061820</guid>
					<description>&quot;Oh Mistress Heidi, I come seeking shelter for the Gathering of the Tribes...preferably withing walking distance. I bring as an humble offering a VG copy of Amazing Fantasy #15, a Hal Foster Tarzan original, and a locket bearing the ashes of Whitney Ellsworth...&quot;

&quot;Mission Valley La Quinta Inn, single, next to the laundry.&quot;

&quot;...Plus a bootleg copy of the next three issues if Miracleman, which I stole from the lavatory of Jonathan Ross.&quot;

&quot;...

This pleases me. Go thou now to the Presidential Suite at the Hyatt, and give thy keys to the valet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh Mistress Heidi, I come seeking shelter for the Gathering of the Tribes&#8230;preferably withing walking distance. I bring as an humble offering a VG copy of Amazing Fantasy #15, a Hal Foster Tarzan original, and a locket bearing the ashes of Whitney Ellsworth&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mission Valley La Quinta Inn, single, next to the laundry.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Plus a bootleg copy of the next three issues if Miracleman, which I stole from the lavatory of Jonathan Ross.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;</p>
<p>This pleases me. Go thou now to the Presidential Suite at the Hyatt, and give thy keys to the valet.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Rob Nott</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061799</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You need to learn from the efficient Germans. 125,000 people at a US comic convention? That's nothing. The Essen toy fair in Germany - (a country with a population that is a fraction of the US) attracts roughly 160,000 people who play test the new board games. And you know them Germans - I bet every single one gets a hotel room, and a clear autobahn direct to their hotel, with ample parking!

http://www.playthings.com/blog/390000439/post/1580016158.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to learn from the efficient Germans. 125,000 people at a US comic convention? That&#8217;s nothing. The Essen toy fair in Germany - (a country with a population that is a fraction of the US) attracts roughly 160,000 people who play test the new board games. And you know them Germans - I bet every single one gets a hotel room, and a clear autobahn direct to their hotel, with ample parking!</p>
<p><a href='http://www.playthings.com/blog/390000439/post/1580016158.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.playthings.com/blog/390000439/post/1580016158.html</a>
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061641</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They could make Heidi the Hotel Queen and give her a giant throne and people could come and ask for their preferred hotels offering gifts in return and she could either grant their wishes or wave her scepter and banish people to Hotel Circle.

It'd be worth staying in Anaheim if this could happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could make Heidi the Hotel Queen and give her a giant throne and people could come and ask for their preferred hotels offering gifts in return and she could either grant their wishes or wave her scepter and banish people to Hotel Circle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be worth staying in Anaheim if this could happen.
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		<title>by: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061620</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Suggestion to anyone concerned about &quot;unappreciative businesses&quot; -- make a point of going to at least one nice dinner in town, and tip well.  There are dozens of good restaurants in the Gaslamp district right across the railroad tracks from the convention center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggestion to anyone concerned about &#8220;unappreciative businesses&#8221; &#8212; make a point of going to at least one nice dinner in town, and tip well.  There are dozens of good restaurants in the Gaslamp district right across the railroad tracks from the convention center.
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		<title>by: Tom Galloway</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061409</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061409</guid>
					<description>These days, there's really no excuse for &quot;servers melting down&quot; when they know how heavy the traffic'll be. You can easily buy time on Google or Amazon's (or several others) cloud servers and scale up to any demand the hotel reservations will demand for a few hours of real time.

As Heidi notes, it's basically a lottery though. So the other alternative is to acknowledge that and do it via a time-distributed lottery system that removes the chokepoint. Two possibilities;

1) You register over a several week period, entering your personal info sans credit card when you register. At time X, the system takes all the entered registrations and randomly orders them. Emails then go out to, say, the first 200 saying their hotel selection and credit card entry time will be date Y at 0900. Emails go to the next 200 saying their time will be at 0910. Continue until all are assigned a time. The email includes a unique password they use to get into the system, and said password is deactivated once a reservation is made. 

2) Distribute it even further. Register as above, but also rank all of your acceptable hotel choices. The lottery program selects the first person, makes their hotel reservation, then selects the second person, and so on. If your first choice is taken when your name comes up, it checks if your second choice is still available, and so forth. You get an email giving you a day or two to go to a site to confirm and enter credit card info.

These aren't particularly hard to code. I'm sure you could find open source types to do it for, say, getting priority on hotel booking and/or a line pass to Hall H/Room 20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days, there&#8217;s really no excuse for &#8220;servers melting down&#8221; when they know how heavy the traffic&#8217;ll be. You can easily buy time on Google or Amazon&#8217;s (or several others) cloud servers and scale up to any demand the hotel reservations will demand for a few hours of real time.</p>
<p>As Heidi notes, it&#8217;s basically a lottery though. So the other alternative is to acknowledge that and do it via a time-distributed lottery system that removes the chokepoint. Two possibilities;</p>
<p>1) You register over a several week period, entering your personal info sans credit card when you register. At time X, the system takes all the entered registrations and randomly orders them. Emails then go out to, say, the first 200 saying their hotel selection and credit card entry time will be date Y at 0900. Emails go to the next 200 saying their time will be at 0910. Continue until all are assigned a time. The email includes a unique password they use to get into the system, and said password is deactivated once a reservation is made. </p>
<p>2) Distribute it even further. Register as above, but also rank all of your acceptable hotel choices. The lottery program selects the first person, makes their hotel reservation, then selects the second person, and so on. If your first choice is taken when your name comes up, it checks if your second choice is still available, and so forth. You get an email giving you a day or two to go to a site to confirm and enter credit card info.</p>
<p>These aren&#8217;t particularly hard to code. I&#8217;m sure you could find open source types to do it for, say, getting priority on hotel booking and/or a line pass to Hall H/Room 20.
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		<title>by: A Distant Soil by Colleen Doran &#187; Archive &#187; San Diego Comic Con</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061352</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I am not going this year, not because I couldn&amp;#8217;t get a hotel, but because I can&amp;#8217;t decide if I am more afraid of seeing people walking around dressed as Silk Spectre or Doctor Manhattan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I am not going this year, not because I couldn&#8217;t get a hotel, but because I can&#8217;t decide if I am more afraid of seeing people walking around dressed as Silk Spectre or Doctor Manhattan. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: dave roman</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061305</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I seriously had a major panic attack waiting for the TP Housing site to not load. It just kept spinning endlessly. And I called both phone numbers every two minutes and couldn't get anyone to pick up.
After an hour I had to give up. Luckily my wife was able to get into the system later in the day and get SOMETHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously had a major panic attack waiting for the TP Housing site to not load. It just kept spinning endlessly. And I called both phone numbers every two minutes and couldn&#8217;t get anyone to pick up.<br />
After an hour I had to give up. Luckily my wife was able to get into the system later in the day and get SOMETHING.
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		<title>by: Todd Allen</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061054</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>_If_ they're not counting hotel rooms, just cash spent in local businesses/etc _outside_ the convention center, $68/day might not be unreasonable.  $10/lunch, $30/dinner, $28 booze.  (OK $10/lunch, $10/dinner, $48/booze)

A medical/pharma show would be $80/night just on dinner with the companies wooing potential customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_If_ they&#8217;re not counting hotel rooms, just cash spent in local businesses/etc _outside_ the convention center, $68/day might not be unreasonable.  $10/lunch, $30/dinner, $28 booze.  (OK $10/lunch, $10/dinner, $48/booze)</p>
<p>A medical/pharma show would be $80/night just on dinner with the companies wooing potential customers.
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		<title>by: Matt Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/20/hoteloween-09-cooonnnnnnnnnn/#comment-3061016</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Has anyone pointed out that something like half the conventiongoers at SDCC are &quot;local&quot; residents who don't usually stay in hotels for the show?  That was the figure bandied about several years back, so save your [citation needed] comments.

The fact that the CVB doesn't engage with the show on their website is kinda troubling, but not at all surprising.

As for me, assuming I go (2-3 year wait on exhibitor space puts a chill on my enthusiasm), I'll do what I've done every year since moving out of SD and book a hotel on the internet then trolley in to downtown (though you can park in Little Italy for 5 bucks all day and then move to another spot if you're feeling brave.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone pointed out that something like half the conventiongoers at SDCC are &#8220;local&#8221; residents who don&#8217;t usually stay in hotels for the show?  That was the figure bandied about several years back, so save your [citation needed] comments.</p>
<p>The fact that the CVB doesn&#8217;t engage with the show on their website is kinda troubling, but not at all surprising.</p>
<p>As for me, assuming I go (2-3 year wait on exhibitor space puts a chill on my enthusiasm), I&#8217;ll do what I&#8217;ve done every year since moving out of SD and book a hotel on the internet then trolley in to downtown (though you can park in Little Italy for 5 bucks all day and then move to another spot if you&#8217;re feeling brave.)
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		<title>by: Scott Bieser</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hard to fault the businesses for being unappreciative when the income per visitor for SDCC is so much lower than for other events.

Also, I did a little math: $300/night times 16,000 comes to $4.8 million per night, or $19.2 million for four nights. So the hotels get the lion's share of that $32M leaving less than $13M for everyone else. Including the hotel bars, which I suspect get most of that remainder.

And unless I miss my guess, that $32 does NOT include any of the exhibitors (and perhaps not even the event-licensed food vendors) inside the Convention Center, who are mostly from out of town. SDCC, being the type of consumer-oriented show where attendees buy stuff at the show, is different from a trade show such as CES where the focus is making deals and showing off products to be sold elsewhere. As such, it can never be as good a deal for the locals.

In the past I've thought the show should move to Vegas, but -- have you ever been to Las Vegas in July? Yarrg! You can't even perspire -- the dry air sucks the moisture straight out of your skin. (Although ironically I am going there in July, for a political conference, although it's in a hotel and I plan to never leave there during the daytime.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to fault the businesses for being unappreciative when the income per visitor for SDCC is so much lower than for other events.</p>
<p>Also, I did a little math: $300/night times 16,000 comes to $4.8 million per night, or $19.2 million for four nights. So the hotels get the lion&#8217;s share of that $32M leaving less than $13M for everyone else. Including the hotel bars, which I suspect get most of that remainder.</p>
<p>And unless I miss my guess, that $32 does NOT include any of the exhibitors (and perhaps not even the event-licensed food vendors) inside the Convention Center, who are mostly from out of town. SDCC, being the type of consumer-oriented show where attendees buy stuff at the show, is different from a trade show such as CES where the focus is making deals and showing off products to be sold elsewhere. As such, it can never be as good a deal for the locals.</p>
<p>In the past I&#8217;ve thought the show should move to Vegas, but &#8212; have you ever been to Las Vegas in July? Yarrg! You can&#8217;t even perspire &#8212; the dry air sucks the moisture straight out of your skin. (Although ironically I am going there in July, for a political conference, although it&#8217;s in a hotel and I plan to never leave there during the daytime.)
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		<title>by: pulphope</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe Congress can give the comics industry a Con Bailout?  You know they must be comic  book fans, all this talk of &quot;crisis&quot; this and &quot;crisis&quot; that...

Seriously, there must be some racket to the hotel thing.  It smacks of a dirty scheme somewhere.  I don't understand why it is so hard to book rooms-- good rooms or otherwise- year after year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Congress can give the comics industry a Con Bailout?  You know they must be comic  book fans, all this talk of &#8220;crisis&#8221; this and &#8220;crisis&#8221; that&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously, there must be some racket to the hotel thing.  It smacks of a dirty scheme somewhere.  I don&#8217;t understand why it is so hard to book rooms&#8211; good rooms or otherwise- year after year.
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I hate to be the one to tell you, but “unappreciative businesses” was really just the city again disguising his voice&quot;

No...no...it can't be...THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Wauughhhhhh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hate to be the one to tell you, but “unappreciative businesses” was really just the city again disguising his voice&#8221;</p>
<p>No&#8230;no&#8230;it can&#8217;t be&#8230;THAT&#8217;S IMPOSSIBLE! Wauughhhhhh!
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		<title>by: James Hudnall</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I didn't even bother this year after having such a hard time last year. I ended up staying at my mom's who lives 20 miles away and taking the trolly in to downtown. I have been going to the con since the 70s and that's the first time I've done that since my first San Diego Con in 75</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t even bother this year after having such a hard time last year. I ended up staying at my mom&#8217;s who lives 20 miles away and taking the trolly in to downtown. I have been going to the con since the 70s and that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve done that since my first San Diego Con in 75
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Water taxi, dude.</description>
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		<title>by: James</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can drop $272 by just shaking hands with Bud Plant before the show opens - and twice that if I eat at Con concessions.

I ended up with a room at the resort on Shelter Island (but I drive anyway, so no big deal to me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can drop $272 by just shaking hands with Bud Plant before the show opens - and twice that if I eat at Con concessions.</p>
<p>I ended up with a room at the resort on Shelter Island (but I drive anyway, so no big deal to me).
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I hate to be the one to tell you, but &quot;unappreciative businesses&quot; was really just the city again disguising his voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be the one to tell you, but &#8220;unappreciative businesses&#8221; was really just the city again disguising his voice.
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		<title>by: Crag Warhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>All strong arguments for moving it to Vegas. Why bend over year after year for the city, travel planners and unappreciative businesses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All strong arguments for moving it to Vegas. Why bend over year after year for the city, travel planners and unappreciative businesses?
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