Comments on: That darned New York Times bestseller list! http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:29:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Mastablubba http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3273442 Thu, 21 May 2009 19:08:10 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3273442 Hellow Boys and Girls just watching this sexy rump Shaking vid on youtube... check it out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsoHCukkeUo May you can share something similar. happy watching mastablubba Hellow Boys and Girls

just watching this sexy rump Shaking vid on youtube…

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May you can share something similar.

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]]> by: Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment » Bestseller befuddlement: ‘The Times list is what it is’ http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3157655 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:20:53 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3157655 [...] Just in time for this week’s installment of the Graphic Books Best Seller List, Heidi MacDonald rounds up discussion of the mysterious mechanics that power The New York Times charts. [...] […] Just in time for this week’s installment of the Graphic Books Best Seller List, Heidi MacDonald rounds up discussion of the mysterious mechanics that power The New York Times charts. […]

]]> by: Friday nattering « Precocious Curmudgeon http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3157422 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:32:59 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3157422 [...] Friday nattering Filed under: Comic shops, Linkblogging, Sales, TV — davidpwelsh @ 8:32 am At The Beat, Heidi MacDonald rounds up the discussion of the New York Times Graphic Books Bestsellers list. I have to admit that I don’t really see why these lists are any more problematic or opaque in their methodology than any of the other sales rankings. I always assumed that the odd or counter-intuitive products that sometimes show up on the lists were more a function of the fact that there are 30 slots posted weekly than of the way the entrails came out of the goat or how the 30-sided die landed on Friday morning. [...] […] Friday nattering Filed under: Comic shops, Linkblogging, Sales, TV — davidpwelsh @ 8:32 am At The Beat, Heidi MacDonald rounds up the discussion of the New York Times Graphic Books Bestsellers list. I have to admit that I don’t really see why these lists are any more problematic or opaque in their methodology than any of the other sales rankings. I always assumed that the odd or counter-intuitive products that sometimes show up on the lists were more a function of the fact that there are 30 slots posted weekly than of the way the entrails came out of the goat or how the 30-sided die landed on Friday morning. […]

]]> by: mark coale http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156538 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:58:19 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156538 As mentioned every time the NYT list comes up, the list for me lost its credibility when they lkept Howard Stern's book from being #1. As mentioned every time the NYT list comes up, the list for me lost its credibility when they lkept Howard Stern’s book from being #1.

]]> by: Heidi M. http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156444 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:14:44 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156444 Brian: I tried to imply that but definitely worth a clarification since this is all being scrutinized. A quarter....hm so that would be around 40-50 stores? Brian:

I tried to imply that but definitely worth a clarification since this is all being scrutinized.

A quarter….hm so that would be around 40-50 stores?

]]> by: Torsten Adair http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156434 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:59:39 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156434 If you click on my name above, you'll get directed to a Barnes & Noble EssentiaList I created to track the bestsellers. As I noted on the 212 list, New Avengers Illuminati, on sale for a year, made the #10 spot on the hardcover list just as the trade was shipping. Having spent twelve years in retail bookstores, I know that customers will either wait for a cheaper edition if it's coming soon, or buy the cheaper edition if it's available. Seeing as how the trade paperback has been out a few weeks and hasn't charted, I think the sell-in hypothesis is correct. Heidi, do you have access to BookScan data? Can you compare the top ten BookScan titles to the top ten NYT titles and see if there is any correlation? Also, note that while the New York Times distinguishes between mass market and trade paperbacks, it does not distinguish between the regular hardcover edition of Watchmen and the Absolute edition, even though there is a big difference in price and content. If you click on my name above, you’ll get directed to a Barnes & Noble EssentiaList I created to track the bestsellers.

As I noted on the 212 list, New Avengers Illuminati, on sale for a year, made the #10 spot on the hardcover list just as the trade was shipping. Having spent twelve years in retail bookstores, I know that customers will either wait for a cheaper edition if it’s coming soon, or buy the cheaper edition if it’s available. Seeing as how the trade paperback has been out a few weeks and hasn’t charted, I think the sell-in hypothesis is correct.

Heidi, do you have access to BookScan data? Can you compare the top ten BookScan titles to the top ten NYT titles and see if there is any correlation?

Also, note that while the New York Times distinguishes between mass market and trade paperbacks, it does not distinguish between the regular hardcover edition of Watchmen and the Absolute edition, even though there is a big difference in price and content.

]]> by: Brian Hibbs http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156389 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:17:38 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156389 If I were you I'd edit the para about talking to Ben Trujillo a little, because it nearly implies that *MOBY* is reporting and collecting data, rather than MOBY *users*. Different things entirely, of course! Walking Dead v2 was OOP for... 16 weeks or so? So, there was a LOT of pent-up demand for it when it finally came back into stock. I can easily see it ranking PURELY from that. I know that I personally sold more copies of v2 that back-in-stock week than of any other two volumes combined... And, sheesh, Bloody Mary? Finally: Something close to a quarter of ComicsPRO's membership has put their names in to report to the NYT (independently, not THROUGH the organization) (I know this because I led the questions to the NYT to see if they were interested, and compiled the interested membership list) -B If I were you I’d edit the para about talking to Ben Trujillo a little, because it nearly implies that *MOBY* is reporting and collecting data, rather than MOBY *users*. Different things entirely, of course!

Walking Dead v2 was OOP for… 16 weeks or so? So, there was a LOT of pent-up demand for it when it finally came back into stock. I can easily see it ranking PURELY from that. I know that I personally sold more copies of v2 that back-in-stock week than of any other two volumes combined…

And, sheesh, Bloody Mary?

Finally: Something close to a quarter of ComicsPRO’s membership has put their names in to report to the NYT (independently, not THROUGH the organization) (I know this because I led the questions to the NYT to see if they were interested, and compiled the interested membership list)

-B

]]> by: Scott http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156338 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:09:48 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156338 'almost' is the key word there.... ‘almost’ is the key word there….

]]> by: Sandy http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156227 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:39:26 +0000 http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/16/that-darned-new-york-times-bestseller-list/#comment-3156227 With all these comic book reviews showing up in newspapers, more accurate sales data, and an actual New York Times bestseller list, it's almost like comic books are a REAL industry! With all these comic book reviews showing up in newspapers, more accurate sales data, and an actual New York Times bestseller list, it’s almost like comic books are a REAL industry!

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