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	<title>Comments on: This week&#8217;s NYT Graphic Books chart</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3172198</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ooops...  meant 741.599 !!    5998=Greek comics.</description>
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		<title>by: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3172180</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>895 in Dewey = Japanese literature!!   not 741.598 !!  (comic books, strips, etc.)

of course, most libraries just catalog it as GN Nar and shelve it in a Graphic Novel display.

Hmmm... there was a previous manga title in March which was &quot;mainstreamed&quot; into the regular list.  Non-fiction GNs are included on this list (The Beats) so that may explain this week. 

Wolverine... that's a style of drawing.  If it's CGI fumetti, or manga, or watercolor, or cartoony... it's still Wolverine, and should not be listed on the manga list.   NYT should make the distinctions clear, though.  

A bigger concern is that Absolute Watchmen sales ($75) are counted with the regular hardcover sales ($40).   That's like counting the sales of a $8 mass market book with the sales of a $17 trade paperback.  (The NYT does split MM and TP editions.)

Naruto is the envy of every publisher.  Each volume hits the charts for a month, then the next volume, then the next.  In regular prose publishing, one has to wait six months to a year for the next title from a bestselling author, and rarely is it a continung story.  (Laurel K. Hamilton is an exception.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>895 in Dewey = Japanese literature!!   not 741.598 !!  (comic books, strips, etc.)</p>
<p>of course, most libraries just catalog it as GN Nar and shelve it in a Graphic Novel display.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; there was a previous manga title in March which was &#8220;mainstreamed&#8221; into the regular list.  Non-fiction GNs are included on this list (The Beats) so that may explain this week. </p>
<p>Wolverine&#8230; that&#8217;s a style of drawing.  If it&#8217;s CGI fumetti, or manga, or watercolor, or cartoony&#8230; it&#8217;s still Wolverine, and should not be listed on the manga list.   NYT should make the distinctions clear, though.  </p>
<p>A bigger concern is that Absolute Watchmen sales ($75) are counted with the regular hardcover sales ($40).   That&#8217;s like counting the sales of a $8 mass market book with the sales of a $17 trade paperback.  (The NYT does split MM and TP editions.)</p>
<p>Naruto is the envy of every publisher.  Each volume hits the charts for a month, then the next volume, then the next.  In regular prose publishing, one has to wait six months to a year for the next title from a bestselling author, and rarely is it a continung story.  (Laurel K. Hamilton is an exception.)
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		<title>by: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171485</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171485</guid>
					<description>I see that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/154662917&amp;referer=brief_results&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WorldCat entry&lt;/a&gt; for the NARUTO volume lists manga as a subject.

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/154662917&#038;referer=brief_results" rel="nofollow">WorldCat entry</a> for the NARUTO volume lists manga as a subject.</p>
<p>SRS
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		<title>by: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171471</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?present+2597118+Default+16+1+F+1.2.840.10003.5.10+16+/cgi-bin/zgate%3fACTION%3dINIT%26FORM_HOST_PORT%3d/prod/www/data/z3950/locils2.html,z3950.loc.gov,7090&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;catalog record &lt;/a&gt;for a book, NARUTO, that is indisputably manga. Note the absence of subject entries.

SRS

Well, I see that one can't URL one's way to a specific LOC catalog record. Here's the relevant text of the record:

Author:        Kishimoto, Masashi, 1974-
Uniform Title: Naruto. Takigakure no shit¯o, ore ga eiy¯u datte
                  ba yo. English
Title:         Naruto. Mission: protect the waterfall village! /
                  original concept by Masashi Kishimoto ; written by Masatoshi
                  Kusakabe ; translated by Tomo Kimura with Janet Gilbert.
Published:     San Francisco : VIZ Media, 2007.
Description:   184 p. : ill. ; 19 cm.
LC Call No.:   PL872.5.I57N3713 2007
Dewey No.:     895.6/36 22
ISBN:          9781421515021
               1421515024
Notes:         &quot;First published in Japan in 2003 by Shueisha
                  Inc., Tokyo&quot;--T.p. verso.
Other authors: Kusakabe, Masatoshi, 1964-
               Kimura, Tomo.
               Gilbert, Janet.
Control No.:   14934969
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?present+2597118+Default+16+1+F+1.2.840.10003.5.10+16+/cgi-bin/zgate%3fACTION%3dINIT%26FORM_HOST_PORT%3d/prod/www/data/z3950/locils2.html,z3950.loc.gov,7090" rel="nofollow">catalog record </a>for a book, NARUTO, that is indisputably manga. Note the absence of subject entries.</p>
<p>SRS</p>
<p>Well, I see that one can&#8217;t URL one&#8217;s way to a specific LOC catalog record. Here&#8217;s the relevant text of the record:</p>
<p>Author:        Kishimoto, Masashi, 1974-<br />
Uniform Title: Naruto. Takigakure no shit¯o, ore ga eiy¯u datte<br />
                  ba yo. English<br />
Title:         Naruto. Mission: protect the waterfall village! /<br />
                  original concept by Masashi Kishimoto ; written by Masatoshi<br />
                  Kusakabe ; translated by Tomo Kimura with Janet Gilbert.<br />
Published:     San Francisco : VIZ Media, 2007.<br />
Description:   184 p. : ill. ; 19 cm.<br />
LC Call No.:   PL872.5.I57N3713 2007<br />
Dewey No.:     895.6/36 22<br />
ISBN:          9781421515021<br />
               1421515024<br />
Notes:         &#8220;First published in Japan in 2003 by Shueisha<br />
                  Inc., Tokyo&#8221;&#8211;T.p. verso.<br />
Other authors: Kusakabe, Masatoshi, 1964-<br />
               Kimura, Tomo.<br />
               Gilbert, Janet.<br />
Control No.:   14934969
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		<title>by: Jake Forbes</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171448</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There's also inconsistency with Wolverine: Prodigal Son (manga style, manga imprint) being classified on the non-manga list, while Tokyopop's latest  Warcraft anthology appeared on the manga list a few weeks back (which on the content side is decidedly less &quot;manga&quot; than Wolverine).  And just when we thought we could put the whole &quot;what is manga?&quot; debates behind us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also inconsistency with Wolverine: Prodigal Son (manga style, manga imprint) being classified on the non-manga list, while Tokyopop&#8217;s latest  Warcraft anthology appeared on the manga list a few weeks back (which on the content side is decidedly less &#8220;manga&#8221; than Wolverine).  And just when we thought we could put the whole &#8220;what is manga?&#8221; debates behind us!
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		<title>by: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171424</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Do you have thoughts/opinion on why Drifting Life doesn’t appear on the manga list when it’s a manga? I’m guessing that they’re classifying based on publisher. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

It could be, that for the purposes of the list, they refer to how the book is cataloged. Take a look at the book's &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/251210338&amp;referer=brief_results&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WorldCat entry.&lt;/a&gt; The book is primarily an autobiography. I tried several large public libraries, through the Library of Congress's gateway, but couldn't pull up a MARC record.

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Do you have thoughts/opinion on why Drifting Life doesn’t appear on the manga list when it’s a manga? I’m guessing that they’re classifying based on publisher. </p></blockquote>
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<p>It could be, that for the purposes of the list, they refer to how the book is cataloged. Take a look at the book&#8217;s <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/251210338&#038;referer=brief_results" rel="nofollow">WorldCat entry.</a> The book is primarily an autobiography. I tried several large public libraries, through the Library of Congress&#8217;s gateway, but couldn&#8217;t pull up a MARC record.</p>
<p>SRS
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		<title>by: Heidi M.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171405</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mark: maybe the HUntress sales will be reflected NEXT week? It took a week for Tatsumi to chart. 

Johanna: I hadn't even thought of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: maybe the HUntress sales will be reflected NEXT week? It took a week for Tatsumi to chart. </p>
<p>Johanna: I hadn&#8217;t even thought of that.
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		<title>by: Al</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171377</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At 840 pages, it makes a nice coffee table book. Or a nice coffee table, ha ha</description>
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		<title>by: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171375</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do you have thoughts/opinion on why Drifting Life doesn't appear on the manga list when it's a manga? I'm guessing that they're classifying based on publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have thoughts/opinion on why Drifting Life doesn&#8217;t appear on the manga list when it&#8217;s a manga? I&#8217;m guessing that they&#8217;re classifying based on publisher.
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		<title>by: Mark Coale</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/04/24/this-weeks-nyt-graphic-books-chart/#comment-3171371</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Did the Huntress book make the NYT list?</description>
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