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	<title>Comments on: Latest Femmenerd snubs</title>
	<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/</link>
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		<title>by: EruditeChick</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3387205</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I hadn't heard about the IGN/District-9 contest.  What the hell. This kind of crap drives me absolutely crazy, because of all the industries and art forms in the world that you'd maybe expect to not treat women like they should be out shopping or bare foot in the kitchen, it would be the ones that gave us Buffy, Starship Troopers, freakin' Wonder Woman....

Ufff, disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard about the IGN/District-9 contest.  What the hell. This kind of crap drives me absolutely crazy, because of all the industries and art forms in the world that you&#8217;d maybe expect to not treat women like they should be out shopping or bare foot in the kitchen, it would be the ones that gave us Buffy, Starship Troopers, freakin&#8217; Wonder Woman&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ufff, disappointed.
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		<title>by: Pia Guerra</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3379286</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3379286</guid>
					<description>Looks like their narrow targeting for District 9 will be self fulfilling 'cause I'm not seeing it now.

(And the concept is ripped off from Alienation, nyah)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like their narrow targeting for District 9 will be self fulfilling &#8217;cause I&#8217;m not seeing it now.</p>
<p>(And the concept is ripped off from Alienation, nyah)
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		<title>by: Rahul</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377941</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377941</guid>
					<description>In related news, check this out: http://kotaku.com/5291717/egm-subscribers-getting-maxim-as-replacement

I read your post a few hours ago and then found this, which seems equally horrific news for potential female subscribers of what might have been considered a respectable gaming magazine. Have fun with your five years of naked ladies, I guess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In related news, check this out: <a href='http://kotaku.com/5291717/egm-subscribers-getting-maxim-as-replacement' rel='nofollow'>http://kotaku.com/5291717/egm-subscribers-getting-maxim-as-replacement</a></p>
<p>I read your post a few hours ago and then found this, which seems equally horrific news for potential female subscribers of what might have been considered a respectable gaming magazine. Have fun with your five years of naked ladies, I guess?
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		<title>by: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377426</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377426</guid>
					<description>I'm tired of this crap too, tired of being considered a 'bonus market' that it's great to capture some of, but certainly requiring no respect.  Women are used to taking what scraps we can find while men can always flee to a different choice out of many should any of them offend one iota of the hyper-masculine image they have been fed for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of this crap too, tired of being considered a &#8216;bonus market&#8217; that it&#8217;s great to capture some of, but certainly requiring no respect.  Women are used to taking what scraps we can find while men can always flee to a different choice out of many should any of them offend one iota of the hyper-masculine image they have been fed for so many years.
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377276</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377276</guid>
					<description>I think it's a good thing, especially considering how many companies and publications have fallen by the wayside since FEMFORCE first came out.

Trina said nice things about the book somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a good thing, especially considering how many companies and publications have fallen by the wayside since FEMFORCE first came out.</p>
<p>Trina said nice things about the book somewhere.
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		<title>by: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377181</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3377181</guid>
					<description>Is it a good or bad thing that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.accomics.com/accomics/femforce/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FEMFORCE&lt;/a&gt; has reached the #149 mark?

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a good or bad thing that <a href="http://www.accomics.com/accomics/femforce/index.html" rel="nofollow">FEMFORCE</a> has reached the #149 mark?</p>
<p>SRS
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		<title>by: A-Rod</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3376829</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3376829</guid>
					<description>This sort of gender targeted media bias is not exclusive to sci-fi or geekdom or women. Look at young adult fiction. 90% of the new young adult fiction these days is marketed to pre-teen girls. The conventional wisdoms says that young boys don't like to read. So publishers don't spend resources trying to build that market. With a limited marketing budget publishers will always go to the group with the most money. 

Give your money to the marketers that address your needs and withold it from those who don't. Eventually they'll get the message. But money is the only thing that speaks to them, angry blog posts about their campaign only count as a &quot;consumer impression&quot; to them and that counts as a plus in their book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of gender targeted media bias is not exclusive to sci-fi or geekdom or women. Look at young adult fiction. 90% of the new young adult fiction these days is marketed to pre-teen girls. The conventional wisdoms says that young boys don&#8217;t like to read. So publishers don&#8217;t spend resources trying to build that market. With a limited marketing budget publishers will always go to the group with the most money. </p>
<p>Give your money to the marketers that address your needs and withold it from those who don&#8217;t. Eventually they&#8217;ll get the message. But money is the only thing that speaks to them, angry blog posts about their campaign only count as a &#8220;consumer impression&#8221; to them and that counts as a plus in their book.
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		<title>by: gene phillips</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3376805</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3376805</guid>
					<description>There will never, I say never, be full parity between male nerds and female nerds until the girl nerds are also regularly accused of living in their parents' basements and not showering enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will never, I say never, be full parity between male nerds and female nerds until the girl nerds are also regularly accused of living in their parents&#8217; basements and not showering enough.
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		<title>by: Kat Kan</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3374902</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3374902</guid>
					<description>All this stuff is just so much crap.  I've been reading comics AND science fiction since I was about 5 or 6 years old, which means I've been hearing the same crap for almost 50 years.  I'm so frelling tired of it.  Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this stuff is just so much crap.  I&#8217;ve been reading comics AND science fiction since I was about 5 or 6 years old, which means I&#8217;ve been hearing the same crap for almost 50 years.  I&#8217;m so frelling tired of it.  Really.
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		<title>by: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3374602</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3374602</guid>
					<description>Marketing people are stupid and shortsighted.

In other news, water is wet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing people are stupid and shortsighted.</p>
<p>In other news, water is wet.
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		<title>by: Mariah</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373434</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373434</guid>
					<description>Yeah, the L.A. Times thing was more sort of lame than anything else. Boiling down female attendees to groupies seems problematic...but it's the Times. I don't exactly go to them for non-fluff. But at least now lots of folks are posting their tips for con-going, which is a dialog that's always useful. 

As for District 9...so disappointed in the IGN thing. We've had that cyclical conversation here before, but, I get really tired of the idea that women as some monolithic hive mind don't like Sci-Fi. It's just flat out not true...and we definitely don't appreciate it when we're actively told &quot;no girls allowed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the L.A. Times thing was more sort of lame than anything else. Boiling down female attendees to groupies seems problematic&#8230;but it&#8217;s the Times. I don&#8217;t exactly go to them for non-fluff. But at least now lots of folks are posting their tips for con-going, which is a dialog that&#8217;s always useful. </p>
<p>As for District 9&#8230;so disappointed in the IGN thing. We&#8217;ve had that cyclical conversation here before, but, I get really tired of the idea that women as some monolithic hive mind don&#8217;t like Sci-Fi. It&#8217;s just flat out not true&#8230;and we definitely don&#8217;t appreciate it when we&#8217;re actively told &#8220;no girls allowed&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Kate Fitzsimons</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373391</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373391</guid>
					<description>I think it's like the unintentionally outdated civilian clothes in so many comics - some people honestly have trouble processing that current reality might be different from what they imagined things were like as a kid. Clearly fandom is your middle school lunch table writ large!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s like the unintentionally outdated civilian clothes in so many comics - some people honestly have trouble processing that current reality might be different from what they imagined things were like as a kid. Clearly fandom is your middle school lunch table writ large!
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		<title>by: Christopher Moonlight is trying his best to be just who he is.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373321</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/06/17/latest-femmenerd-snubs/#comment-3373321</guid>
					<description>&quot;I just wanted everyone watching to learn from what has happened.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just wanted everyone watching to learn from what has happened.&#8221;
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