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	<title>Comments on: Will we all be getting ready for LA in 2013?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Fan History&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; San Diego Comic-Con: Too Big For Its Own Good?</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3491326</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Some reports coming out of this year&amp;#8217;s Comic-Con International are suggesting that the con may be reaching its breaking point in size. One fan tells the story of waiting in a tremendous line for hours to try to get into one panel, only to find out that most of the people who managed to get in had either camped out in the panel room since early morning, or were members of the press who were given preferential access to the big &amp;#8220;media events&amp;#8221; at the convention. Blog Reports that convention centers in other cities, including Las Vegas and Los Angeles, have been either approached or expressed interest to the convention organizers to take their business to their bigger venues. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Some reports coming out of this year&#8217;s Comic-Con International are suggesting that the con may be reaching its breaking point in size. One fan tells the story of waiting in a tremendous line for hours to try to get into one panel, only to find out that most of the people who managed to get in had either camped out in the panel room since early morning, or were members of the press who were given preferential access to the big &#8220;media events&#8221; at the convention. Blog Reports that convention centers in other cities, including Las Vegas and Los Angeles, have been either approached or expressed interest to the convention organizers to take their business to their bigger venues. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3488421</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3488421</guid>
					<description>I think all the people who are &quot;voting&quot; for a certain locale based on THEIR residency being within close proximity are funny. There are thousands of people in every major city who would love to have Comic-Con in their backyard. That doesn't mean anything to anyone. What matters is how many tickets can be sold to people who are going to purchase wares from the retailers. That's the bottom line here. 

The more space you have, the more retailers &amp;#38; consumers you can pack in, and the more money switches hands, so that the local economy of whichever Convention Center gets/keeps CCI benefits, the retailers benefit, and the consumers are more easily parted with their cash. If you can make the exhibit hall even more comfortable &amp;#38; convenient for the consumers (ie; wider aisles, larger rooms for panels, etc.), then they will stick around longer. The big names will go wherever the people are, in order to promote their tv shows, movies, etc. - so if you can pack the people in, you have a captive audience. Sell it right and they will pay attention.

Your personal locale doesn't matter. So stop voicing your opinions just because it's more convenient to you. I live in the San Diego area and I'd LOVE to see Comic-Con in a building with more space to walk around, perusing the wares, and avoid being smothered by every fat nerd who thinks it's okay to not shower every day. Whether that means an extension to the SD Convention Center or moving the convention... I'm okay with it. Those who desire to go to the convention will follow as long as the amenities are favorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all the people who are &#8220;voting&#8221; for a certain locale based on THEIR residency being within close proximity are funny. There are thousands of people in every major city who would love to have Comic-Con in their backyard. That doesn&#8217;t mean anything to anyone. What matters is how many tickets can be sold to people who are going to purchase wares from the retailers. That&#8217;s the bottom line here. </p>
<p>The more space you have, the more retailers &amp; consumers you can pack in, and the more money switches hands, so that the local economy of whichever Convention Center gets/keeps CCI benefits, the retailers benefit, and the consumers are more easily parted with their cash. If you can make the exhibit hall even more comfortable &amp; convenient for the consumers (ie; wider aisles, larger rooms for panels, etc.), then they will stick around longer. The big names will go wherever the people are, in order to promote their tv shows, movies, etc. - so if you can pack the people in, you have a captive audience. Sell it right and they will pay attention.</p>
<p>Your personal locale doesn&#8217;t matter. So stop voicing your opinions just because it&#8217;s more convenient to you. I live in the San Diego area and I&#8217;d LOVE to see Comic-Con in a building with more space to walk around, perusing the wares, and avoid being smothered by every fat nerd who thinks it&#8217;s okay to not shower every day. Whether that means an extension to the SD Convention Center or moving the convention&#8230; I&#8217;m okay with it. Those who desire to go to the convention will follow as long as the amenities are favorable.
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		<title>by: Bitch Spot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SDCC 101: Day One. The Ground Floor</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3485706</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3485706</guid>
					<description>[...] The most recent development is reportedly three cities, Anaheim (yeah right), Los Angeles (even worse) and Las Vegas (absolutely) will be at this year&amp;#8217;s convention trying to convince SDCC to change venues.  My vote is for Las Vegas, as I&amp;#8217;ve written before.  It remains the only city in the United States that can handle not only the convention as it is now, but the next 20+ years of growth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The most recent development is reportedly three cities, Anaheim (yeah right), Los Angeles (even worse) and Las Vegas (absolutely) will be at this year&#8217;s convention trying to convince SDCC to change venues.  My vote is for Las Vegas, as I&#8217;ve written before.  It remains the only city in the United States that can handle not only the convention as it is now, but the next 20+ years of growth. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Manga Xanadu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Manga For 7/11-7/17/09</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3473946</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3473946</guid>
					<description>[...] Heidi MacDonald at The Beat has an article about other cities wanting to court SDCC away from it&amp;#8217;s 40 year home of San Diego.  Anaheim, Los Angeles and Las Vegas have all made advances toward CCI, to try and woo them away, but these cities have to be realistic about the logistics of having CCI on their turf.  Anaheim and Los Angeles just doesn&amp;#8217;t have space or hotel rooms to accommodate 140,000+ people.  Las Vegas is as good as CCI can get for both convention space and hotel rooms, all in close proximity.  Even though Anaheim would be awesome for me.  I can crash at my parents house, and wouldn&amp;#8217;t need a hotel room! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Heidi MacDonald at The Beat has an article about other cities wanting to court SDCC away from it&#8217;s 40 year home of San Diego.  Anaheim, Los Angeles and Las Vegas have all made advances toward CCI, to try and woo them away, but these cities have to be realistic about the logistics of having CCI on their turf.  Anaheim and Los Angeles just doesn&#8217;t have space or hotel rooms to accommodate 140,000+ people.  Las Vegas is as good as CCI can get for both convention space and hotel rooms, all in close proximity.  Even though Anaheim would be awesome for me.  I can crash at my parents house, and wouldn&#8217;t need a hotel room! [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3473046</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3473046</guid>
					<description>I'm happy enough to turn in a hotel rooftop and clear cool skies and friendly conversation for bottle service at an expensive club where you can't hear anything and everyone knows my suit is off the rack. Those places are fun, too. But I can't imagine the reluctant to spend money on anything but comics crowd trying to negotiate their way through the we would like you to be spending at least some money at all times parts of Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy enough to turn in a hotel rooftop and clear cool skies and friendly conversation for bottle service at an expensive club where you can&#8217;t hear anything and everyone knows my suit is off the rack. Those places are fun, too. But I can&#8217;t imagine the reluctant to spend money on anything but comics crowd trying to negotiate their way through the we would like you to be spending at least some money at all times parts of Vegas.
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		<title>by: Randy R.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3470160</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3470160</guid>
					<description>I do recall several years in a row when the San Diego Comic-Con was pretty muggy and hot--but those were flukes. The past couple years it's been milder and pleasant (esp. at night), and it appears it will be again this year. This is normal San Diego/coastal weather.

My parents lived in Vegas for about 5 years, and I have been there many times on trips, so I am very familiar with the weather there. Believe me, Vegas in July is intensely HOT, and there's no comparison in the weather. Yes, the buildings in Vegas are kept incredibly cool, but I'd much prefer the character of San Diego over the desert oasis of Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do recall several years in a row when the San Diego Comic-Con was pretty muggy and hot&#8211;but those were flukes. The past couple years it&#8217;s been milder and pleasant (esp. at night), and it appears it will be again this year. This is normal San Diego/coastal weather.</p>
<p>My parents lived in Vegas for about 5 years, and I have been there many times on trips, so I am very familiar with the weather there. Believe me, Vegas in July is intensely HOT, and there&#8217;s no comparison in the weather. Yes, the buildings in Vegas are kept incredibly cool, but I&#8217;d much prefer the character of San Diego over the desert oasis of Vegas.
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		<title>by: R. Maheras</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3470125</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3470125</guid>
					<description>Alan Coil wrote: &quot;This summer may seem cool compared to other summers, but that’s because many recent summers were above normal. The 10 hottest summers have all occurred in the last 20-22 years.&quot;

No, Chicago was not &quot;relatively&quot; cooler in June -- the average temperature for the first 13 days were the coldest in 50 years. And July started out the same way. Even after a couple of warm days in a row, July is still averaging six degrees cooler than normal.

If this keeps up for a few more years, Chicago WILL be the new San Diego!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Coil wrote: &#8220;This summer may seem cool compared to other summers, but that’s because many recent summers were above normal. The 10 hottest summers have all occurred in the last 20-22 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Chicago was not &#8220;relatively&#8221; cooler in June &#8212; the average temperature for the first 13 days were the coldest in 50 years. And July started out the same way. Even after a couple of warm days in a row, July is still averaging six degrees cooler than normal.</p>
<p>If this keeps up for a few more years, Chicago WILL be the new San Diego!
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		<title>by: Larry B.</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3470060</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My vote goes to LA. Since we live there, instead of spending more than half our money on hotel, transportation and food, we'd be spending most of it on convention wares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote goes to LA. Since we live there, instead of spending more than half our money on hotel, transportation and food, we&#8217;d be spending most of it on convention wares.
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3469823</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3469823</guid>
					<description>A friend was just commenting about how cool this summer was. The temperature today was 85, which is the average high for this area in the summer. This summer may seem cool compared to other summers, but that's because many recent summers were above normal. The 10 hottest summers have all occurred in the last 20-22 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend was just commenting about how cool this summer was. The temperature today was 85, which is the average high for this area in the summer. This summer may seem cool compared to other summers, but that&#8217;s because many recent summers were above normal. The 10 hottest summers have all occurred in the last 20-22 years.
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		<title>by: Rob Leigh</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468929</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468929</guid>
					<description>Vegas, baby!</description>
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		<title>by: Jesse Post</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468737</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468737</guid>
					<description>Wait. Are you saying that San Diego Comic-Con is . . . a girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. Are you saying that San Diego Comic-Con is . . . a girl?
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		<title>by: R. Maheras</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468533</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Stephen wrote: &quot;And last year the temperature was consistently in the low to mid 70s for the entire full four days of the con - which is more typical for San Diego in late July, according to historical weather data.&quot;


Yeah, but according to Al Gore, things are only going to get worse...

Maybe Chicago will become the new San Diego. After all, this year, we've had a June and July that has been unusually cool.

And the McCormick Place convention complex here makes San Diego's look puny by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen wrote: &#8220;And last year the temperature was consistently in the low to mid 70s for the entire full four days of the con - which is more typical for San Diego in late July, according to historical weather data.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, but according to Al Gore, things are only going to get worse&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe Chicago will become the new San Diego. After all, this year, we&#8217;ve had a June and July that has been unusually cool.</p>
<p>And the McCormick Place convention complex here makes San Diego&#8217;s look puny by comparison.
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		<title>by: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468511</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468511</guid>
					<description>&amp;#62;&amp;#62;I’ve attended Comicon International three times, and all three times it was hot and muggy — and always warmer than 72 degrees. As a matter of fact, in 2006, the temperature was 80 degrees on Thursday, 82 on Friday, 99 on Saturday, and 83 on Sunday.

And last year the temperature was consistently in the low to mid 70s for the entire full four days of the con - which is more typical for San Diego in late July, according to historical weather data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I’ve attended Comicon International three times, and all three times it was hot and muggy — and always warmer than 72 degrees. As a matter of fact, in 2006, the temperature was 80 degrees on Thursday, 82 on Friday, 99 on Saturday, and 83 on Sunday.</p>
<p>And last year the temperature was consistently in the low to mid 70s for the entire full four days of the con - which is more typical for San Diego in late July, according to historical weather data.
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		<title>by: R. Maheras</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468495</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alan Coil wrote: &quot;In short, Vegas is too hot. San Diego: 72 degrees. Vegas: 110 degrees.&quot;

I've attended Comicon International three times, and all three times it was hot and muggy -- and always warmer than 72 degrees. As a matter of fact, in 2006, the temperature was 80 degrees on Thursday, 82 on Friday, 99 on Saturday, and 83 on Sunday.

I've also been to Vegas a half-dozen times or so, and while it certainly is hot, I don't ever remember being as uncomfortable there as I was not just outside of the San Diego Convention Center, but INSIDE as well. The convention center does not have a very effective climate control system, in my opinion.

Still, I agree that Vegas is probably not a good option -- especially for the dealers at Comicon. I sure wouldn't want to have to compete for the fans' dollars with all the potential money-syphoning distractions Vegas has to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Coil wrote: &#8220;In short, Vegas is too hot. San Diego: 72 degrees. Vegas: 110 degrees.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve attended Comicon International three times, and all three times it was hot and muggy &#8212; and always warmer than 72 degrees. As a matter of fact, in 2006, the temperature was 80 degrees on Thursday, 82 on Friday, 99 on Saturday, and 83 on Sunday.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been to Vegas a half-dozen times or so, and while it certainly is hot, I don&#8217;t ever remember being as uncomfortable there as I was not just outside of the San Diego Convention Center, but INSIDE as well. The convention center does not have a very effective climate control system, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Still, I agree that Vegas is probably not a good option &#8212; especially for the dealers at Comicon. I sure wouldn&#8217;t want to have to compete for the fans&#8217; dollars with all the potential money-syphoning distractions Vegas has to offer.
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		<title>by: michael</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3468339</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think things even out, once one considers the fact that all other costs in the SD area are cheaper than they would be at other locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think things even out, once one considers the fact that all other costs in the SD area are cheaper than they would be at other locations.
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		<title>by: nne</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3467875</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3467875</guid>
					<description>PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO TEH HATERS!!! downtown la is not that bad, its being thoroughly gentrified as we speak!

Hell the Steampunk freaks alone have the best watering hole waiting for them at the Edison. google it, tis the most beautiful bar ever with the best sweet potato fries ever.

There's tons of stuff for kiddies not just Disneyland, there's also Universal Studios which is eaaaaasily accessible using the downtown centered subway. 

There's tooons of really fancy awesome food places downtown nowadays, and bars are about the only thing they ever had right to begin with!

Not just Edison, but http://www.ladowntownnews.com/articles/2009/07/14/listings/bars_and_clubs/doc49b5be6ae3a1a639785270.txt


Please give LA a chance unlike other places the natives would actually like to have the convention, doesn't that count for something?

Some of the best comic book stores are in this city Meltdown on which that one  Alan Moore-Simpsons episode is obviously based on.  Golden Apple, Earth2, Secret Headquarters.... tons more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO TEH HATERS!!! downtown la is not that bad, its being thoroughly gentrified as we speak!</p>
<p>Hell the Steampunk freaks alone have the best watering hole waiting for them at the Edison. google it, tis the most beautiful bar ever with the best sweet potato fries ever.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s tons of stuff for kiddies not just Disneyland, there&#8217;s also Universal Studios which is eaaaaasily accessible using the downtown centered subway. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s tooons of really fancy awesome food places downtown nowadays, and bars are about the only thing they ever had right to begin with!</p>
<p>Not just Edison, but <a href='http://www.ladowntownnews.com/articles/2009/07/14/listings/bars_and_clubs/doc49b5be6ae3a1a639785270.txt' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ladowntownnews.com/articles/2009/07/14/listings/bars_and_clubs/doc49b5be6ae3a1a639785270.txt</a></p>
<p>Please give LA a chance unlike other places the natives would actually like to have the convention, doesn&#8217;t that count for something?</p>
<p>Some of the best comic book stores are in this city Meltdown on which that one  Alan Moore-Simpsons episode is obviously based on.  Golden Apple, Earth2, Secret Headquarters&#8230;. tons more.
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		<title>by: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3467696</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The area around the LA Convention Center is no longer an urban wasteland. By 2013, the area will probably have MORE to offer! In fact, there are already plenty of things within walking distance from the LACC-- and the metro system is pretty straightforward and can take attendees to other parts of the city if they wish to explore. 

I love having the convention at SD, but if they HAVE to move it anywhere, my vote goes to LA!</description>
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<p>I love having the convention at SD, but if they HAVE to move it anywhere, my vote goes to LA!
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		<title>by: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3467362</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm sure Wizard would be more than happy to counter-program a convention in San Diego if the current one moves to Vegas.</description>
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		<title>by: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like San Diego as a comic convention. Except for maybe Angouleme, I can't imagine a place I'd get to see Lewis Trondheim, Richard Thompson, Jack Katz, Lew Sayres Schwartz, Jeff Smith, Mike Mignola, Trina Robbins and the Hernandez Brothers rat a tat tat.

I don't even really notice the other stuff except for the random celebrity sighting. I never even see 99 percent of it. I might feel differently if I had to be in that registration line, I don't know.

I do think it's likely someone will try a satellite event in the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like San Diego as a comic convention. Except for maybe Angouleme, I can&#8217;t imagine a place I&#8217;d get to see Lewis Trondheim, Richard Thompson, Jack Katz, Lew Sayres Schwartz, Jeff Smith, Mike Mignola, Trina Robbins and the Hernandez Brothers rat a tat tat.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even really notice the other stuff except for the random celebrity sighting. I never even see 99 percent of it. I might feel differently if I had to be in that registration line, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s likely someone will try a satellite event in the next few years.
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		<title>by: Susie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's a really wild thought....
If CCI pulls up stakes from San Diego (not that I think it's likely), who would move right in to fill that void? What if somebody wanted to have, you know, a COMIC BOOK convention in 'Diego?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a really wild thought&#8230;.<br />
If CCI pulls up stakes from San Diego (not that I think it&#8217;s likely), who would move right in to fill that void? What if somebody wanted to have, you know, a COMIC BOOK convention in &#8216;Diego?
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		<title>by: Randy R.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It would be sad to see SDCC move from San Diego--as large as it has become, I think the easy-going vibe of the city has helped Comic-Con maintain some semblance of its more intimate, fandom roots.

But given the trajectory growth of the convention, I don't see how the show can grow if it stays in San Diego--unless, of course, the convention center decides to expand as it's now considering.

I'm an Angelino now, but as a transplant from the East Coast, I must admit I've never particularly been an L.A. booster. But though there have been a lot of hiccups and obstacles along the way (topped by the current economy), downtown L.A. has slowly begun to seriously re-gentrify, and I do believe Comic-Con would accelerate that effort and benefit as well. If the show had to leave San Diego, I do think L.A. would be a better fit than Vegas or Anaheim--yes, because of personal convenience, but also because of my familiarity with all three of these other cities and their convention facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be sad to see SDCC move from San Diego&#8211;as large as it has become, I think the easy-going vibe of the city has helped Comic-Con maintain some semblance of its more intimate, fandom roots.</p>
<p>But given the trajectory growth of the convention, I don&#8217;t see how the show can grow if it stays in San Diego&#8211;unless, of course, the convention center decides to expand as it&#8217;s now considering.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Angelino now, but as a transplant from the East Coast, I must admit I&#8217;ve never particularly been an L.A. booster. But though there have been a lot of hiccups and obstacles along the way (topped by the current economy), downtown L.A. has slowly begun to seriously re-gentrify, and I do believe Comic-Con would accelerate that effort and benefit as well. If the show had to leave San Diego, I do think L.A. would be a better fit than Vegas or Anaheim&#8211;yes, because of personal convenience, but also because of my familiarity with all three of these other cities and their convention facilities.
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		<title>by: Neeb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm wondering if the pursuit will be as great if attendance drops to say... 75K by 2015.
It's always assumed CCI will do nothing but grow. Why couldn't the opposite happen? 
(not soon of course)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the pursuit will be as great if attendance drops to say&#8230; 75K by 2015.<br />
It&#8217;s always assumed CCI will do nothing but grow. Why couldn&#8217;t the opposite happen?<br />
(not soon of course)
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		<title>by: Sean D</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the city basically treat CC as a red headed step-child? I seem to remember a Beat post maybe a year back where the city was touting (of all things) some random lame sounding business convention and not even mentioning Comic-Con.&quot;

Amazing how a rough economy combined with the demonizing of corporate retreats and expense account spending can change the tune of the city fathers, ain't it?

Those other events meant a lot of cash to the city and was valued more at the time because it was (thanks to expense accounts) more spent per person. The hotels may not have sold out like they do for us, but the hotel roms that did fill up didn't have five or six people in a double like happens during SDCC. NOW, with that kind of expense being frowned upon and the city having a rough first and second quarter as a result, our (mostly) non-subsidized visit to the city is looking damn good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the city basically treat CC as a red headed step-child? I seem to remember a Beat post maybe a year back where the city was touting (of all things) some random lame sounding business convention and not even mentioning Comic-Con.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amazing how a rough economy combined with the demonizing of corporate retreats and expense account spending can change the tune of the city fathers, ain&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Those other events meant a lot of cash to the city and was valued more at the time because it was (thanks to expense accounts) more spent per person. The hotels may not have sold out like they do for us, but the hotel roms that did fill up didn&#8217;t have five or six people in a double like happens during SDCC. NOW, with that kind of expense being frowned upon and the city having a rough first and second quarter as a result, our (mostly) non-subsidized visit to the city is looking damn good.
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		<title>by: Bruce</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As someone who currently lives in San Diego, and benefits from the Con's proximity, you can take what I say with a grain of salt.  That said, however, my consistent impression from the Con organizers is that they are *very* anchored in San Diego.  Forty years is a long time and I just find it hard to believe they would actually move when it came down to it.  My (uninformed) guess is that all the flirting is really about negotiating with the SD city government and not much more than that.

Secondly, I would be very interested in seeing how the mailing addresses of the 125K attendees break down.  My (also uniformed) guess is that the majority really do come from the greater San Diego area, but I'd love to actually know for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who currently lives in San Diego, and benefits from the Con&#8217;s proximity, you can take what I say with a grain of salt.  That said, however, my consistent impression from the Con organizers is that they are *very* anchored in San Diego.  Forty years is a long time and I just find it hard to believe they would actually move when it came down to it.  My (uninformed) guess is that all the flirting is really about negotiating with the SD city government and not much more than that.</p>
<p>Secondly, I would be very interested in seeing how the mailing addresses of the 125K attendees break down.  My (also uniformed) guess is that the majority really do come from the greater San Diego area, but I&#8217;d love to actually know for sure.
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		<title>by: Mark Bourne</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm all for CCI moving to LA.  Do it!  Then someone start San Diego Comic Con, so we can go back to having a great comic convention instead of a circus. &amp;#62;Wink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for CCI moving to LA.  Do it!  Then someone start San Diego Comic Con, so we can go back to having a great comic convention instead of a circus. &gt;Wink
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		<title>by: Christian</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3466511</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the city basically treat CC as a red headed step-child? I seem to remember a Beat post maybe a year back where the city was touting (of all things) some random lame sounding business convention and not even mentioning Comic-Con. 

Personally I'd love LA. I don't need to &quot;get away&quot; - not at absurd price it is for a hotel room in San Diego these days. For that price I could *actually* get away to some place nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but didn&#8217;t the city basically treat CC as a red headed step-child? I seem to remember a Beat post maybe a year back where the city was touting (of all things) some random lame sounding business convention and not even mentioning Comic-Con. </p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d love LA. I don&#8217;t need to &#8220;get away&#8221; - not at absurd price it is for a hotel room in San Diego these days. For that price I could *actually* get away to some place nice.
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		<title>by: Kevin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Every year (like this one) in which I cannot swing a trip to San Diego I am sad about missing it.  Moving the convention to L.A. would effectively solve this problem, because a big part of what I love about SDCC is the walking-around-San-Diego part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every year (like this one) in which I cannot swing a trip to San Diego I am sad about missing it.  Moving the convention to L.A. would effectively solve this problem, because a big part of what I love about SDCC is the walking-around-San-Diego part.
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		<title>by: ed</title>
		<link>http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/14/will-we-all-be-getting-ready-for-la-in-2012/#comment-3466506</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>***shhh!*** 


All them outside-suitors talk are just 'negotiation positioning' by the CCI folks... just as dangling that 'future expansion' of the Convention Center by the SD politicos. Pretty words being thrown around before the deadline of signing the new contracts FINALLY come around...


Look: should they take the &quot;San Diego&quot; part out of &quot;Comic-Con&quot;, the CCI organisers and new-found metropolitan beau will quickly discover that CCI:Wherever will just be a shadow of what SDCC used to be. Sure, the weather's a factor--- why else would all them NYC-based Comics creators decide to fly across the country 40 years ago? San Diego IS and always will be a prime Summer Vacation spot: and transplanting the Con to Vegas for one and other interchangeable metropolitan urban center WON'T be the same to attract the passes-buying constituencies the current Con now enjoys.  A lesser concern would be the willingness of the H'wood Film and TV contigent to travel someplace further than a 2-hr drive from their LA  base: an argument for Anaheim, yes, but problematic for elsewhere. On the plus side, though--- moving more than 2 hrs away just might help bring about that  'return' of the Con to its &quot;Comics&quot; root? and just might reduce the current clusterf*ck of having 125K+ attendees to something more manageable: ONLY &quot;Comics&quot; fans would be attending! (And there was much rejoicing.) Which in turn would probably piss off the new site owners hoping for that Summer uptick of 125K+ visitors would bring to their hotel taxes and local economy; and on top of the financial 
'incentives' that new site would be giving the CCI to relocate, moving the Con might not be the monetary bonanza they had hoped for. And then:  should there be a couple of years of this non-SDCC level of performance, would the CCI be forced to relocate AGAIN? (If so, good foresight in rebranding it to &quot;CCI&quot;--- that after-colon placement can fit in any name!)

     


Moving the Comic-Con: &quot;Killing the Golden Goose&quot; anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***shhh!*** </p>
<p>All them outside-suitors talk are just &#8216;negotiation positioning&#8217; by the CCI folks&#8230; just as dangling that &#8216;future expansion&#8217; of the Convention Center by the SD politicos. Pretty words being thrown around before the deadline of signing the new contracts FINALLY come around&#8230;</p>
<p>Look: should they take the &#8220;San Diego&#8221; part out of &#8220;Comic-Con&#8221;, the CCI organisers and new-found metropolitan beau will quickly discover that CCI:Wherever will just be a shadow of what SDCC used to be. Sure, the weather&#8217;s a factor&#8212; why else would all them NYC-based Comics creators decide to fly across the country 40 years ago? San Diego IS and always will be a prime Summer Vacation spot: and transplanting the Con to Vegas for one and other interchangeable metropolitan urban center WON&#8217;T be the same to attract the passes-buying constituencies the current Con now enjoys.  A lesser concern would be the willingness of the H&#8217;wood Film and TV contigent to travel someplace further than a 2-hr drive from their LA  base: an argument for Anaheim, yes, but problematic for elsewhere. On the plus side, though&#8212; moving more than 2 hrs away just might help bring about that  &#8216;return&#8217; of the Con to its &#8220;Comics&#8221; root? and just might reduce the current clusterf*ck of having 125K+ attendees to something more manageable: ONLY &#8220;Comics&#8221; fans would be attending! (And there was much rejoicing.) Which in turn would probably piss off the new site owners hoping for that Summer uptick of 125K+ visitors would bring to their hotel taxes and local economy; and on top of the financial<br />
&#8216;incentives&#8217; that new site would be giving the CCI to relocate, moving the Con might not be the monetary bonanza they had hoped for. And then:  should there be a couple of years of this non-SDCC level of performance, would the CCI be forced to relocate AGAIN? (If so, good foresight in rebranding it to &#8220;CCI&#8221;&#8212; that after-colon placement can fit in any name!)</p>
<p>Moving the Comic-Con: &#8220;Killing the Golden Goose&#8221; anyone?
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		<title>by: jimmy palmiotti</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>please move it to vegas, flights are cheap and rooms cheaper... and direct flights!!!</description>
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		<title>by: Briguyx</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, they've just opened a bunch of restaurants right beside the L.A. Convention Center, including Wolfgang Puck, the excellent Farm and ESPN Zone. And for those of us who come to SDCC from L.A., we'd save a lot by not having to pay for hotel, overnight parking and transportation to San Diego. Yes, the nightlife would suffer, which is why Las Vegas is a good option. Plenty of hotels and while it's hot, how long will you be outdoors for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they&#8217;ve just opened a bunch of restaurants right beside the L.A. Convention Center, including Wolfgang Puck, the excellent Farm and ESPN Zone. And for those of us who come to SDCC from L.A., we&#8217;d save a lot by not having to pay for hotel, overnight parking and transportation to San Diego. Yes, the nightlife would suffer, which is why Las Vegas is a good option. Plenty of hotels and while it&#8217;s hot, how long will you be outdoors for?
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